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Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

	at my successful RFA
	Thank you, PumpkinSky, for !voting at my successful RFA; I am humbled that you put your trust in me. I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Wikipedia's labours. Now I can add smokejumpers to my vocab. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Stefan2 (talk) 14:10, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would you prefer that I don't review Yogo sapphire? If so, please let me know and I'll strike my comments or something. I've kept the page on my watchlist because I've always liked it, but I'm more than aware that polarization exists between groups of editors, and given this comment Taht "pack" iz a problem; uze teh kitteh'z teeth to byte their sorry azzez, I seem to be lumped in the pack that's perceived as a problem. Anyway, don't want to cause problems, so dropping by here to let you know. I think the page is looking much better, but also I think it still needs a bit of polishing (pun intended). Truthkeeper (talk) 21:49, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine you edit. I'm uploading definitely free photos now, published in 1900, so there's no doubt. I read you post already. A few of your points I don't agree with, but I'm sure it can be worked out. No problem.PumpkinSky talk 21:52, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Yogo NRHP proposal, but at least I couldn't do it — anyone may put together nominations, but you have to be on the ground to do the research. There's no way that one could do it remotely. Regarding VA Beach, I think it best if you put a section in the established article discussing the HD. Judging by the map, the HD appears to include the whole old portion of the base, and I don't think separate articles would help. Besides including the HD content in the Camp Pendleton article, just pipe the link on the list and create Camp Pendleton-State Military Reservation Historic District as a redirect to Camp Pendleton. Of course, if you disagree, go ahead; it's for that precise reason that I've not changed the link and created the redirect myself. Nyttend (talk) 01:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, right now you're at 2.3 expansion, even after I added a couple of hundred characters. I suppose you could have done it with enough sources, but it's rather too late now. Getting away from DYK, you've done nice work; thanks for letting me know. Just please note the edit summary here; WP:NRHP has had a lot of discussion about this, and after reviewing lots of NPS and related government information, we've realised that there's no noun or noun phrase that can properly be used to refer to "a place that is listed on the National Register". Nyttend (talk) 03:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the kind words and for all your help. We should come up with such a phrase huh?PumpkinSky talk 09:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We (unintentionally) tried. For a long time, all of the lists were "List of Registered Historic Places in _____". Nyttend (talk) 10:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, if you're looking for an expert opinion on a legal matter, I suppose you should go to Geoff Brigham, our current general counsel. Media copyright questions is technically the community page for it, but it's not very active. The non-free content talk page attracts a lot of people who put forward views on this sort of thing. J Milburn (talk) 15:48, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I totally did not realise that PumpkinSky=Rlevse. J Milburn (talk) 15:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'll ask at the first one, there are several recent posts/answers there.PumpkinSky talk 19:19, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mark says you know quite a bit about Asia, so I wanted your opinion on this. Do you think this oppose vote holds water? I've worked on clarifying what is pertinent to the article and have tried to avoid going too in-depth, but it appears the reviewer doesn't agree. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The single best advice I can give regarding an opposer at FAC is to work with them, if they allow it, this is almost always the best course. That being said, in my view that is not a valid oppose. Yes, it's probably safe to say I know a fair bit about Asia. I've been in over 40 countries, lived in Asia 8 years, lived in Europe 1 year, and my wife is native Thai. Ling stated he didn't like lumping people into large groups, but that is done for quite legitimate reasons, such as academic (one can major in women's studies) and medical reasons (diseases specific to certain groups such as sickle cell). You already mentioned WP:COMMON. On wiki we have Women in Vietnam (that's half the country lumped into one large group), the FA Taiwanese aborigines, the FA Tamil people, Thai Chinese--a lengthy article on Thai citizens of Chinese background--note in American we'd call them Chinese Thai but in Thailand they say "Thai Chinese", Thai American, African American, etc. So if Ling's oppose is based solely on the fact your article is about a distinctive cultural group, I feel it's not valid. I've actually been looking over your FAC but not deeply yet; I was planning to do that this weekend. Hope this helps.PumpkinSky talk 10:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Alright. Now I feel guilty about not looking at the sapphires yet. This weekend, if my connection is holding. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I live five years in Indonesia, and know a fair number of Chinese Indonesians. It is a distinct and important group in the cultural dynamics of the region and has been for ages. It is certainly a well studied group even if there are sceptics. The issues of 1965–66 and '98 involved them heavily, although those were mostly about larger scale politics; 1965–66 was mostly about land reform, not Komunisme. If you'd like, I'll comment at the FAC. I doubt we'll ever have an article on Tanzanian Nicaraguans, though ;) Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:40, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we do have Irish Uruguayans... Mark Arsten (talk) 03:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The potato famine drove Irish all over the world, including some of my ancestors.PumpkinSky talk 10:28, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Jack, should you want to weigh in you'd be more than welcome. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:15, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When I told BR that some others also deserved the "Black barnstar of institutional shame", you were exactly one of the editors I was thinking about. Though I am not proud that our beloved Wikipedia has some dark corners, I am extremely proud at seeing ones like yourself who have endured; and now strengthen our own collective will to eradicate these vestiges of sorrow where the imbecile reigns. My76Strat (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Applauds)--Wehwalt (talk) 15:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Cheers)--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YEAH!!! Thanks guys, I love this one! PumpkinSky talk 17:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Whistles)--(olive (talk) 17:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Like.  Br'erRabbit  23:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Select all and you can see the text in the barnstar.PumpkinSky talk 18:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ROFLMAO! Love it! Montanabw^(talk) 20:14, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Skillz Jesse V. (talk) 01:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:07, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:07, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized that if Yogo sapphire becomes a FA, (which it most likely will) then it'll eventually appear on the Main Page. I can only imagine how epic that would be. My question to you is, have you given any thought as to when you'd like the article to appear? IIRC, Transit of Venus was the Featured Article of the Day on the 5th, which was during the actual transit of Venus. Therefore, it is possible to request certain articles to appear on certain days, although I don't know if you need a good reason or not. In any case, I'd recommend that you look at WP:TFA for more information. Good luck! Jesse V. (talk) 06:26, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As Raul is, it seems, not running my articles on the main page at present, apparently because he perceives me as having opposed his continued directorship (I did not then oppose him, actually, but I felt it appropriate to take the side of community consent vs. divine right), I have no reason to believe he would run PS's articles, since PS advocated Raul's removal. In fact, most likely he would not use the article, though it is highly meritorious. Using the main page to reward one's friends and punish one's perceived enemies is a bit regrettable. I don't actually mind, it saves me a lot of aggravation, but it's a bit hard on PS. That being said, a run at WP:TFA/R might be a good idea, if only to force him to publicly say no or otherwise refuse the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this had crossed my mind but there's no obvious date it seems, so I'd have to think on it more and consider points you both made.PumpkinSky talk 09:53, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had no idea. Montanabw, Nikkimaria, Vsmith, or Dreadstar may have better chances if Raul's COI prevents you from pushing it to the Main Page yourself. Jesse V. (talk) 17:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just want it through the FA gauntlet first. There is a formula for getting an article "points" to be TFA, which includes how long it's been a FA without being TFA. So my suggestion is to get it FA and then revisit this question in about six months. Montanabw^(talk) 19:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree, first things first.PumpkinSky talk 21:26, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Concur, first things first. "He who did sell the lion's skin, while the beast lived, was killed with hunting't."--Wehwalt (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"No harm in being prepared" - Sam Gamgee Jesse V. (talk) 22:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm convinced there was a large truck which accompanied Gamgee everywhere with all his supplies, but Tolkien forgot to mention it. I've decided to nom Washington quarter for August 1 when that date's available, just to see what happens. 80th anniversary of release.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:33, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm convinced Tolkien actually went to Middle-earth and just recorded everything he saw there. Perhaps he was too busy learning the intricacies of Elvish to notice the truck. Jesse V. (talk) 23:49, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He probably drove it and didn't want to make himself a character. A lorry, then, it would have been. Terrible trouble getting it through Moria, even the Balrog had to shove to get it through the narrower parts. The Balrog knew better than to offend the author. Not that it helped him in the end.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right, after all, why else would The Shire have been so industrialized at the end of The Hobbit, but for fossil fuel production?  :-P Montanabw^(talk) 16:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly. And how did Saruman create an explosive to use against Helm's Deep? I think someone let slip the formula for gunpowder... Jesse V. (talk) 17:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To channel Bored of the Rings, purchased from an elf named Amy Surplus, or something like that. I have this vision of Tolkien, leaning against the hood of his lorry and making eyes at Galadriel.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am wondering if you have a comment for Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Template:Did you know nominations/Artist's Studio—Look Mickey, Look Mickey.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responded.PumpkinSky talk 01:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Surprise: thank you for sharing credit with me for adding almost nothing and proposing a hook that you didn't like (to put it mildly)! Very generous and kind, precious! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem!PumpkinSky talk 18:40, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Happy I didn't promise too much, regarding the stats ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		PumpkinSky, in the wake of your victory over the Yogo sapphire article, I just wanted to say that I have been very impressed over the last year watching you and other editors endlessly toil over every detail of the Yogo sapphire article. I doubt I would have that much patience and stamina, and neither do many other Wikipedians. Achieving FA status is truly remarkable, and you have my deepest respect. I hearby award you this barnstar for your efforts. *sharp salute* Jesse V. (talk) 06:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. This is so nice to see when you first log in. I could not have done it alone, many helped and that include you. PumpkinSky talk 10:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Like.  Br'erRabbit  10:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! and yipeeeeeeee!, too! Montanabw^(talk) 16:52, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Precious (the real thing) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You give WAY too much credit to me! You did the lion's share of the work, went to Hades and back, and came out with a beautiful article. It was a heavy lift, but you carried it all the way. Congratulations!!!! - Tim1965 (talk) 00:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much.PumpkinSky talk 00:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some interesting stats for you: the article was created by you on October 24, 2011‎, 240 days ago, (7 months, 27 days ago). GA status was achieved on December 5, 2011, 198 days ago. As you can see from this page, work pretty much stalled out while you were away starting on February 15, but quickly got back on course since April 14 once you were able to edit again. You were gone for 59 days, and since you have made 643 edits to Yogo sapphire, that averages 3.55 edits per day from you. The perseverance and speed at which the work went forward is impressive. If I may ask, what was motivating you to work so hard? Jesse V. (talk) 02:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quite interesting. I love Montana, though I'm an expat now. Yogo sapphires are quintessentially Montanan, almost as much as cowboys, hard to explain if you haven't lived there. And I like make nice articles.PumpkinSky talk 09:28, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm suspecting that you're getting tired of reading your own writing again and again and again. So, here is Yogo sapphire in Irish: [1]. Enjoy! Jesse V. (talk) 17:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Irish is much faster than German ;) Impressive! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ROFL GREAT!PumpkinSky talk 20:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article will see a huge spike in popularity once on the Main page. I think everyone should be prepared to handle vandalism and any inappropriate edits. Hold formation! Jesse V. (talk) 23:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the day yes, but you'll go nuts trying to keep up with vandals. What you do is ignore it, plenty of people watch TFAs, then when it's all over you do a diff on the before and after version, keep the good and ditch the bad. PumpkinSky talk 23:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. That's a good outlook to have. In that case you guys should just revel in the coolness of your writing being above the fold for a day. Jesse V. (talk) 23:52, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You going to DYK Baxter? Montanabw^(talk) 21:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already did. See responses to reviewer I made a few minutes ago.PumpkinSky talk 21:45, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cool! Montanabw^(talk) 22:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Yogo sapphire. LittleMountain5 00:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! LittleMountain5 00:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!PumpkinSky talk 01:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! You're not blind, the only thing I did was place the talk page in the Four Award articles category. Categories are listed at the bottom of the page. We use the category to keep a current tally of how many Four Award certified articles there are. Anyway, that's all the ArticleHistory template does at this point, so there are no obvious changes. Cheers, LittleMountain5 01:24, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To quote you: Well Deserved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Jesse V. (talk) 15:19, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pumpkin, I'm assuming it was your email that requested the restoration of all your old subpages, I was wondering if you were planning to redirect/move them to your new username or what your plans are for them, since at the moment they've added a huge chunk to my weekly task of clearing Wikipedia:Database reports/Ownerless pages in the user space. (You could also just re-register your old username, which would probably be a sensible thing to do anyway)--Jac16888 ^Talk 12:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I'll reregister. And yes, I asked for restoration.PumpkinSky talk 12:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks, that will sort my backlog. --Jac16888 ^Talk 12:43, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It won't let me, because it's part of the SUL system. Will contact a crat.PumpkinSky talk 12:44, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I logged into my old WikiSource account, which was never renamed or anything. THen I logged into en wiki as R and it recreated the account and I verified that with Special:Listusers. This will also prevent imposters. At this point I'm not sure what can be done about the old edits R made, but I'm more worried about the user and subpages, and impersonation, which seems to be under control now.PumpkinSky talk 12:55, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems all your edits under R are now under vanished whosits, so a redirect or link from there to here should clarify those edits, and impersonation was the real issue so I'd say problem solved--Jac16888 ^Talk 13:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked MBisanz to check all that stuff out. I just brought User:Dog The Teddy Bear back too, he's cool. PumpkinSky talk 13:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

woof! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@MBisanz...I can't get into User:Dog The Teddy Bear, not with wiki email recovery, nor gmail recovery, etc. Please rename User:Dog The Teddy Bear to User:Dog The Teddy Bear OLD and I'll recreate it as User:Dog The Teddy Bear. Thanks.PumpkinSky talk 14:45, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought he was a bounty hunter, not a teddy bear. Or does he do both roles? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:13, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dog is very good at multitasking.PumpkinSky talk 15:14, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Have you tried logging into commons:User:Dog_The_Teddy_Bear? Also, if that doesn't work, I can try breaking his SUL and then seeing if it will log in. Also, I can try swapping the new R account with the vanished R account to reattribute the edits if you wanted that. Just let me know after you try the commons Dog account. MBisanz ^talk 15:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dog on Commons does not work. I may be really hosed on this one. I have a vague memory of scrambling the password on Dog. Yikes. While I really really like Dog The Teddy Bear account maybe I could make a new account "Dog" The Teddy Bear or DogTheTedyyBear or Dog, The Teddy Bear. As for the R accounts, yea give the reattribution thing a try.PumpkinSky talk 16:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, ok. I tried deleting the SUL to Dog. If that doesn't work, I'll do the rename or you can create a new account. Either way works for me. MBisanz ^talk 16:31, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going with Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear. Let me know when the R reatt thing is done/how it's going. PumpkinSky talk 17:20, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okey, I shifted stuff around on the R thing, so it should all look right. MBisanz ^talk 18:16, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Are the "vanished" edits going to change to Rlevse or is that too much to do?PumpkinSky talk 18:18, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They should over the next two or three days, but if they don't, I'll poke someone higher up to move them along. It's a reflection of how the software handles large or old accounts. Let me know if I can help anytime. Congrats on the article. MBisanz ^talk 18:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You've been to the top - and suffered through being at the bottom. I do honestly and truly admire your courage, strength, and fortitude. Through all the hell and damnation you've been subjected to - you've continued with the goal of actually improving the wikipedia project, adding actual content, and making "zOMG" articles better for the people who come here to READ and LEARN. If I ever do come back and actually work on articles .. it will be because of people like you. I'm proud to know you sir. Chedzilla (talk) 17:10, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Ched. I have experienced A LOT here, yes indeed. I may be the only one in that exact situation. It changed my views on a lot of things. Wearing another's shoes tends to do that. Yogo sapphire is what it's all about. And you do need to get back to that article on Fellowes.PumpkinSky talk 17:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 17:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responded already.PumpkinSky talk 17:27, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

		The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		For sticking with Wikipedia and Did You Know and providing us with articles on dissidents, wild places, historic buildings, horses and even tell-all books, I am proud to present you with this medal. Thank you :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 19:16, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

THANKS!!PumpkinSky talk 19:59, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh rah, eh? When did we get into the Marine spirit? :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

-) PumpkinSky talk 18

39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Semper Fi :-) Chedzilla (talk) 07:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We're lean mean wiki machines! PumpkinSky talk 09:49, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is a note to let the main editors of Yogo sapphire know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 30, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 30, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Yogo sapphires are a variety of corundum found only in Yogo Gulch, Montana, part of the Little Belt Mountains in Judith Basin County, on land once inhabited by the Piegan Blackfeet people. Yogos are typically cornflower blue in color, a result of trace amounts of iron and titanium. Many gemologists consider them among the finest sapphires in the world. They have high uniform clarity and maintain their brilliance under artificial light. Because Yogo sapphires occur within a vertically dipping resistive igneous dike, mining efforts have been sporadic and rarely profitable. It is estimated that at least 28,000,000 carats (5,600 kg) of Yogos are still in the ground. The Smithsonian Institution first reported on Yogos in the museum's annual report on June 30, 1899. Jewelry containing Yogos was given to First Ladies Florence Harding and Bess Truman; in addition, many gems were sold in Europe. Today, several Yogo sapphires are part of the Smithsonian Institution's gem collection. In 1969, the sapphire was co-designated along with the agate as Montana's state gemstones. (more...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've sure you know why I picked this as my symbol of excellence ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the Main Page. See for yourself! :D Jesse V. (talk) 01:38, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your return to the top of the main page! 28bytes (talk) 04:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you 28! PumpkinSky talk 10:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• SMACK ON THE FRONT PAGE, BABY!!!!!!!!! Awesome! Spectacular! Fireworks! Three cheers and a tiger for you! And correct me if I'm wrong, but this is also the first Montana-themed article to be Featured Article of the Day, too. You win a trip to Columbia Falls Water Park or Fairmont Hot Springs! YAY!! :) - Tim1965 (talk) 13:09, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you! Actually, see WP:Montana, there are three other MT FAs listed there (GLacier, Yellowstone, Yellowstone fires) and all have been TFA, though one could argue those touch WY and Canada and the Yogo is "more Montanan" ;-) PumpkinSky talk 13:12, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I collect on my trip? I need a vacation. PumpkinSky talk 13:15, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pay for it full price, of course! LOL! (By the way, pick Fairmont, not only is all the lodging, food and booze on site, the other one is merely close to a Super 8 and will be of more appeal to the under-15 crowd!) Montanabw^(talk) 22:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I can't help but notice that Fairmont has no article... LOL! - Tim1965 (talk) 17:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wo denkst Du hin? Ferien gibt's noch nicht, erst de-Yogo ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

nominated --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations to all who worked on this article. What an excellent article it is, and since I love sapphires very informative and interesting to me personally. Beautiful work and collaboration. This is how Wikipedia should work seems to me. (olive (talk) 14:23, 30 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you! And the team effort on this is how wiki should be, not what it is. PumpkinSky talk 14:55, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is how Wikipedia will become more and more with efforts like yours and those who worked on this article. So I disagree a little bit with you. :O) My work with you in the past such as it was, was like this. It was fun and so collaborative. I won't say more. So I'm thankful you are back and that you have been joined by editors who are like minded. Looking forward : this is how Wikipedia is becoming, I hope. If not it will destroy itself eventually as all negativity must. All best wishes PS. And to you and others: Thank you to for the light at the door and for showing the way despite all that went on in the past(olive (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Returning from gorgeous fireworks, Rheingau Musik Festival 25 years, a fitting conclusion of a promising day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, need your input here. Thanks --SMS ^Talk 19:06, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I will have nothing to do with a thread where I've already been tried and convicted.PumpkinSky talk 23:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PumpkinSky...thanks again for your suggestions to make Grand Teton National Park even better...had it not been for your inquiry regarding the lead image caption, it would have remained incorrectly labelled...splendid.--MONGO 01:25, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Glad it worked out. Another fine article by you. PumpkinSky talk 02:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And...that was quick, but well deserved to have the Yogo Sapphire now on the Main Page...kudos to you and all those that worked on the article.--MONGO 22:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PumpkinSky, I'm sorry we knocked heads this evening. Perhaps I should have gone to your talk page, but from my perspective a hook that I'd just discovered major problems with and noted them on the nomination page had suddenly been promoted, so my goal was to get it out of the prep area right away. Here's the timing as I've been able to reconstruct it from the revision history pages; let me know if you see any errors:

• 23:20: I start looking for some hooks to fill prep 3 or 4, and soon come across the Zalce, which looks promising. I'm not happy with the "took his name" wording, though, and check out the mexconnect source to see if I can get an idea for a slight rephrasing. Instead, I find familiar-looking phrasing.
• 23:25: I run duplication detector; find way too many significant hits. Start writing up a "no"-based addition for the nomination detailing the problems.
• 23:??: you find the Zalce, decide you're going to go with it.
• 23:37: I save my Zalce review addition, which makes the hook ineligible for promotion.
• 23:38: You promote the Zalce, which at the time includes my new addition.
• 23:39: You add the Zalce to prep 1.
• 23:43: I see that the Zalce is in prep 1.
• 23:44: I revert the Zalce, and edit prep 1 to remove it.
• 23:46: I add the removed hook to the Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed listing.
• 23:47: You revert my prep 1 edit, restoring Zalce to prep 1.

The rest is on my talk page.

As you can see, it was a case of spectacularly bad timing: I nixed the check mark one minute before you went to promote the template. The odds against such a thing happening must be immense: this time they bit us. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it was. No hard feelings here. Whenever I see a prep set with hooks in it, I always check to see it's been untouched for at least a couple hours before I edit it, What happened last night has happened to me many times and it can easily be avoided by the other person taking just a few seconds to see it it's being actively edited. PumpkinSky talk 09:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 06:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"So far no one stepped forward, only talk so far." Last i checked, i just spent 3-4 hours fixing those annoying harv links, as best as i could without further experience in the more obscure details. I don't expect a medal or anything :), but please show a little more consideration. This is all voluntary for everyone. Thanks. GermanJoe (talk) 19:40, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Sorry. I've posted a correction there. PumpkinSky talk 21:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I can't help you there. This is where its nomination will be if they get it online, but it's only one of the "This file hasn't yet been digitized" files. WP:NRHP help has nothing at all about Montana. If you go to the SHPO's website, you'll find this page, which links to a ContentDM page displaying nominations, but those are only for properties listed since 2006. I have three suggestions for getting information:

• Email John Boughton at JBoughton@mt.gov for help; according to this page, you should contact him for NR-related information
• Request the nomination from nr_reference@nps.gov
• Try Google for other documentation.

Sorry I can't be more helpful. Nyttend (talk) 01:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, that's CONTENTdm, not ContentDM. Nyttend (talk) 01:45, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks for trying. 02:58, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I placed this review/comment on the DYK nomination page. It approves the DYK as written but suggests you might want to consider an alternative or the addition of the location to the current hook. I think it would be a good idea to put a responsive comment on that page so the DYK does not sit unattended because editors are waiting to see if you respond. I hope this causes no inconvenience. Donner60 (talk) 04:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment/Review:

Article is new in main space, is long enough, clear and well written. It concerns a colonial era house once owned by an American patriot during the American Revolution, who also was one of two delegates from the county to the Virginia convention for ratification of the U.S. Constitution.

The article is supported by references and citations and is within the policy guidelines. Hook is supported by the citation.

The image is from the Wikipedia editor and is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.

I can accept the hook as written. I might change "plantation" to "colonial" and add the location. An alternative might be something like "..that Upper Wolfsnare] (pictured), built in Princess Anne County, Virginia in 1759, and home of an American Revolution Patriot and U.S. Constitution state convention delegate, is still lived in?" Citations support this alternative as well. I think the author of the article should decide whether something like this is more interesting or appropriate or whether it should stay as it is. The current hook is easily within the character limit and the characters that would be showing in my alternative would still make the cut-off. It's close, which is why I did not add the name of Thomas Walke, IV. Article and hook are neutral and do not mention living people.

QPQ review listed.

Unless the editor would care to change the hook in any way, I believe this is ready for promotion to the queue. I will place these comments on editor's talk page.

Good idea. Will do. Thanks.PumpkinSky talk 10:38, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments - full stream:

Hi. Thanks for the review of the DYK nom. I've posted the alt, slightly modified, as ALT1. Could you check it and post another tic mark below it so people don't wonder if it's still pending? Thanks. PumpkinSky talk 10:46, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done! I posted this further review/comment on the DYK nomination page: Great. I think ALT1 is complete, meets all the criteria and is ready for promotion to the queue. Donner60 (talk) 21:26, 6 July 2012 (UTC) Donner60 (talk) 21:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sincere thanks, Pumpkin Sky, for your elevation of the DYK for Antinomian Controversy, and for your very kind words in regards to the article. You mentioned that you could help me with a few disambiguation links? and I would appreciate that. I just received a notification of two disambiguation problems, one of which I've fixed, but the other I haven't yet found. Apparently somewhere in the article I linked John Cotton without the modifier, so that it goes to a disambiguation page. Anyway, if you have the means to fix this, then by all means, please do, and any other fixes you can make will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for your support.Sarnold17 (talk) 12:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)  Done. 28bytes (talk) 12:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For DYK work moving things to the prep area. :)

LauraHale (talk) 12:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, why thanks!PumpkinSky talk 12:49, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thank you btw. :) hagd. — Ched :  ?  13:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Lewis and Clark County Hospital Historic District at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale (talk) 00:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Diligence in content creation. Cntras (talk) 14:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YUM, Thanks!PumpkinSky talk 14:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stunning! I'm happy that I woke up soon enough to see this Moon, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I think it was MTBW that found that on flickr. Under a Commmons compatible license too. So I imported it to Commmoss. We're lucky to have found it.PumpkinSky talk 11:00, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It goes well with the sun on the pumpkin sky --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Rcsprinter (chatter) @ 16:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy this treat for your help with Antinomian Controversy; I think I have your fixes in place, and will plan to promote the article after a bit more tweaking. BTW, I think the Saints Portal is good. If you go to the portal, there is a list of article topics at the top. "Antinomianism" would fit right in, except the article hasn't been written yet. My impression is that any religious figure(s) would be worthy of mention in that portal as well.

I was happy to see the DYK this morning, so thanks for moving things along so expeditiously!Sarnold17 (talk) 01:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. Glad you're happy, and thank you. PumpkinSky talk 01:39, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for another quality article with a great image, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Glad you like it.PumpkinSky talk 09:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PS. Schrofen is a German mountaineering term for a type of steep, rocky terrain, so Schrofenflanken could be translated as "steep, rocky, flanks". You can see an example on the right-hand side of the image. Südabbrüche are the steep mountain slopes on the south side of the mountain. This is not an easy translation, especially without knowing the mountain, but my suggestion for those 2 sentences would be something like this:

"Seen from the north it stands out as a relatively isolated, broad summit block, whose mighty rock faces and steep, rocky flanks (Schrofen) fall away on all sides. Its 1,200-metre-high south face is impressive and makes the Fritzerkogel a striking two-thousander.

Hope that helps. I did skim Laufen Hut and it looked pretty good, but I didn't compare it line by line with the original. Gruß. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vielen DankPumpkinSky talk 09:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps also translate the general de:Alpine Route? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We need to finish Fritz first, needs more translation and good refs. PumpkinSky talk 22:31, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) do you like this? memories, stub en, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about the "first", - a general explanation of alpine routes might help all of them. Still looking for de:Trittsicherheit in English, that's how I came across the others, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I want Fritz finished first because we started it first. Then we can do alpine routes. I've having lots of trouble finding good sources and we need to finish translating it. No problem making a triple nom.PumpkinSky talk 22:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this might be useful to find the English terms, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alpinist magazine

Alpine Club en

Climbing

ein weites Feld, suggest we nom the other other two and leave this one for later, I don't even know if Alpine Route in a strict sense applies to the two routes (or at least one) from Laufen Hut, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PS, I've had a look at Laufen Hut. Looks pretty good, but I've made a few suggested changes for you to consider. Hope that helps. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! PumpkinSky talk 10:37, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hooky, indeed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

added to Baker (surname) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Danke und Danke.PumpkinSky talk 10:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

history and stats for Big Dorothy (Awesome Dorothy?) on 14 July, Allons enfants, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sex sells !!!! PumpkinSky talk 09:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm hoping. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good, but make it a scandal or prostitute hook and even better!PumpkinSky talk 10:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• We certainly have the image for it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:05, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HI! Thankx for the review for the Phantosmia page expanded on July 4th, 2012 I did the required edition on the 11th july. Hope it's ready now :)! Can you kindly review again? Thankx alot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoono92 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are multiple ones still there. I see you are new. Compare how the URLs (web links) in your article look compared to the ones in Dorothy Baker (madam). If you don't figure it out, let me know.PumpkinSky talk 18:09, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I totally missed those! My Apologies. The link was good help! Just corrected the remaining ones. Thankx for the patience! You're awesome! :) Zoono92 (talk) 05:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but they're still there. I have to leave soon, so someone will have to show you. Or I might be able to later today.PumpkinSky talk 09:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okh... so I probably do need help, I sort of don't get which ones. It would be awesome if you could help! But I've asked the same question from someone who welcomed me to Wikipedia :) hope they answer. Otherwise I'll be coming to you again? :) Thankx again! Zoono92 (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See the two or three edits I'm about to make. See if that helps. PumpkinSky talk 20:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hmm.. I think i get it now (although I would still have to ask you to check it kindly). followed your steps and also followed Gerda Arendt instructions. Must say I learned ALOT today. really. anyhow, please let me know if anything else needs fixed! p.s. Thankx for the patience :) Zoono92 (talk) 22:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Will look over. Another lesson--A LOT is TWO words ;-0 ;-) One last thing. Check edits I just made. Punct goes before refs. Fix the rest and I'll approve. PumpkinSky talk 23:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have made changes to the punctuation before refs, I would really appreciate it, if you could verify that it has been done correctly. Thanks for all your help once again. ProBonoPublicoA90 (talk)

see edits I just made, it's punctuation,start ref, without space btwen the punct and < of the ref. You had several missing periods too. You guys are off to a good start but need to pay attention to detail. I'll approve now. PumpkinSky talk 00:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PumpkinSky. I took care of the referencing issue for this double nom. Thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 03:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your new DYK with 3 articles by 3 editors and found it interesting. So I reviewed it and expressed my approval, except that I had to use a purple check because of the foreign language sources. I noted all three editors were very experienced so I could accept those sources in good faith. I assume that will not result in any problem. I certainly hope it doesn't. In any event, I wanted to let you know that the Alpine route article contains an expression in brackets: "[cairn is the right word]." I assume that was meant for editing purposes. Although it does not appear completely out of line, I thought you might want to delete that phrase. If I were 100% sure, I would have done it myself but I was only about 98% sure it might be something you want to delete. I did not mention it in the DYK review. Donner60 (talk) 06:23, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! I just woke up to this nice surprise, please look at the nomination for alternatives and keep it watched, a asked a friend if a crop of the pic was possible. It's a featured picture, but looks less stunning and a bit dark in small size. You are right about the editing line, I will remove it. If you compare Cairn to the German equivalent you will see that they overlap but are not the same. This is also true for Alpine route, and before we had the same for Easter egg tree. It's not decided yet if some day we will have Alpine route and Alpine ROUTE ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to both and glad you found it interesting.PumpkinSky talk 08:55, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Triple DYK: I like alt 2 and the alternate, cropped image better. I have left a further review/comment. Donner60 (talk) 20:16, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Statements like this: statement are why User:Newyorkbrad is so well respected. PumpkinSky talk 23:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

yes, that's why he was called an awesome Wikipedian again on 19 April 2012, after 20 September 2007 (!) and 13 October 2008, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Yeah, that's a heck of a vote of confidence. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Generally I think well of him, he could be more supportive of Br'er Rabbit's return and the removal of restrictions, and I don't like the way he (an arb not up for re-election) was pushed to the front to cast the deciding vote to decline the first go round on the civility enforcement case, whatever it was called, last November. That being said, I may support him if he runs again, which I probably won't do for anyone else of those arbs whose terms expire at the end of the year.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]