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:::::If you're unaware that in an "Edit conflict" page that moving material from "Your edit" to the top box supersedes what is in the top box, then that is not my problem. But to ''threaten'' me because you don't know that is an abuse of admin authority. If we're going to escalate this, fine. I can also bring up your verbal abuse and the way you're rejecting an RS journalistic source in order to move traffic to sales sites. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 18:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::If you're unaware that in an "Edit conflict" page that moving material from "Your edit" to the top box supersedes what is in the top box, then that is not my problem. But to ''threaten'' me because you don't know that is an abuse of admin authority. If we're going to escalate this, fine. I can also bring up your verbal abuse and the way you're rejecting an RS journalistic source in order to move traffic to sales sites. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 18:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I admire your candor and your thoughtfulness, and I, too, am sorry for my own part in what escalated further than two experienced editors such as ourselves should have let occur. I'm absolutely happy to consider you a collegial colleague — someone who cares passionately about this project is a valuable resource. (Though I'm glad you put "my" in quotation marks.) Looking on the bright side, I've learned yet another nuance of the many Wikipedia policies and guidelines. So: No hard feelings, and I'll do what I can to rectify things. I appreciate your being an honorable person and having the integrity to post what you have on my talk page. With genuine regards, --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 21:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg

Can you check the PD claims regarding File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going to nominate it for discussion somewhere?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not a picture guy. I will nominate it at PUF if you think that is the correct thing to do. Let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for piggybacking onto this thread; I have noticed this image file at A Fistful of Dollars and I think the copyright claim is mistaken. I have raised my reasoning at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 February 24#File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg. User:Dr. Blofeld mentions that you approved the image in the GA review for Talk:Clint Eastwood. Similarly, I think File:Eastwood Good Bad and the Ugly.png suffers the same dilemma and it is discussed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 February 24#File:Eastwood Good Bad and the Ugly.png. Could you voice your opinion on these items there for discussion? Jappalang (talk) 11:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nargis and sons

Firstly, the main poster is the original english version which we should always try to use. Secondly I did not add the poster after removing it from the infobox. Shahid added it on grounds that the image of Nargis shooting her own son it one of Hindi cinema's iconic moments and should be represented. Thirdly I did not add a new rationale I simply copied it form the old image' I thought this image was much better. Fourthly, album covers are generally accepted in GA and FA articles on Hindi films because the soundtracks to the films are often as important or even more important to the film itself. See Dhoom 2 for example. Fifthly, one image should be acceptable at least to illustrate an important scene in the film or concept in relation to the text which I believe the images in the themes section meet. Sixthly, if you are not happy with the rationale you can always alter it yourself and show me which rationale I should actually be using.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say that it is pretty irritating to put in some hours of work on an article and to have somebody turn up on your talk page telling you to STOP doing something and how my knowledge of fair use imagery is on par with a newbie. Yes I agree that fair use images need to have a proper rationale and should not be abused but I can't helping thinking that we often have an overly strict policy on them. I agree with you on this, perhaps if I was to upload this and remove the current two images in the themes and use this to accompany the text discussing the shooting of her son with a proper rationale it would be more accpetable. You might respond with some smart alec comment that no images are needed but as I say that scene is important and an iconic one in Hindi cinema which I think should be pictured. I've removed the soundtrack image as it was too large for fair use anyway and not good quality.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You may delete Mother India poster.jpg and Nargis and sons.jpg. As I'm not certain exactly what sort of rationale you are after or what design can you kindly add whatever rationale template you want in File:Mother India Nargis.jpg and show me where to write why it is being used. If you can do one example or at least show me then I'm likely to remember it. I'll write it but please at least add the basic rationale template and parameters or whatever you want.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I get frustrated because images like File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg get deleted and some smart alec always does the legal research to prove why it can't be used. It sucks.... I think we are jeopardising quality because of this strict image policy we have. The Clint Eastwood article will be considerably worse off without these images. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is I see a lot of double standards, some people claim images can be used under certain rationales as fair use and others say none of them are permitted and you'll see some with several and other with none at all. Fight Club (film) used to have images which was used "for criticial commentary", low res images which for some reason were removed leaving the article incredibly bland in appearance, even if very well written. Admittedly I like images in articles, but I like is not a valid fair use policy, agreed. I think at least a single image of a film or a video game can be encyclopedic if it is directly related to the text. Lack of images really make articles bland in my view. Films are visual mediums so writing about them without any form of image is a shame I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Eastwood Good Bad and the Ugly.png should be kept under fair use I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Has anybody ever considered actually contacting a film company and requesting permission to use a restricted number of low res images of the films in articles? Because I'm pretty certain that wikipedia is a big enough site to be able to do that. I think that some film companies would be happy to have images of their films on wikipedia and would see it as a promotion even if the images are encyclopedic and not "adverts" as such. I think its time we contacted some companies and actually heard what their views are on wikipedia using images from their films. Would be very interesting to hear.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grrrr yeah its the free to reproduce obligations which have caused me to also lose loads of flickr agreements in the same way. They are happy for wikipedia to use the images but not happy for other people to reproduce them and profit. I think there was a debate about us changing the license a while back to accept images which are Creative Commons No Deriratives but a lot of people thought it too radical and contrary to producing a "free encyclopedia". Of course one can google images images of film within seconds but its not the same as have a beautifully illustrated article...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK the pink poster has returned. pLease delete Mother India Nargis.jpg and Mother India.jpg♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

[1] Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Possible FP

What do you think of this image? The setting and quality is fantastic, but the image is a wee bit small...ResMar 05:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on February 26, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 26, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 (talk · contribs). If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 07:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikicup

Please reinstate me and my Wikicup points. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 05:06, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CUP

hello,

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Golden Eagle Award for Best Foreign Language Film/archive1; today is the last day; omg D:. This list is going to be promoted, but possibly not today. Are there any options to go into the second round?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 11:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have concerns about the above user's GA reviews, and the fact that WikiCup appears to be the motivation. See Talk:Lula 3D/GA1 and Talk:2011 Australian Open/GA1 for two ends of the spectrum. —WFC— 17:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You did remove my points, I really thank you for this, Mr. Milburn. But I still didn't receive the answer of my question above. When will the first round exactly end; what time, what time zone? I see no such information on WP:CUP.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I think we're talking UTC; well, it would surprise me if we weren't. (Oh, and on an unrelated not, you can remove the single quote marks from your signature I think, and the spaces after the colons, to save a few characters. And possibly -color as well, I think.)- Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 21:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: I went ahead and submitted a DYK yesterday. I am not sure if this would count towards the first round, or if I should have waited to submit it for the second round, but just letting you know! --Another Believer (Talk) 20:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Appeared on Main Page on 2/27. Thanks for the quick response. --Another Believer (Talk) 21:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 February 2011


Your GA nomination of Northern Lites

The article Northern Lites you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Northern Lites for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikicup Question

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but thought I'd ask. Are there any points for nominating DYK articles that you haven't worked on, besides minor tweaks? WormTT 08:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thought as much. Will probably be doing quite a few over the next few weeks (can't see why people are complaining that there are not enough hooks, when there is a plethora of new articles out there!) but was curious to know if there was any wikicup recognition. No problem if there's not - still worth doing WormTT 11:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dustbin Baby

I'm not sure what kind of good faith it is to say, "With all due respect you don't know I have no idea what you're talking about." WP:ELNO-5 forbids "Links to web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to web pages with objectionable amounts of advertising. For example, the mobile phone article does not link to web pages that mostly promote or advertise cell-phone products or services." Common sense dictates that if the 5th-most visited Internet site in the world allows businessed to simply add links that drive traffic to their sites, then what is to stop play.com or netflix or anyone else from adding hundreds or thousands of links as inline citations to home-media section? --Tenebrae (talk) 15:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As you are on the verge of a WP:3RR vio, I think it best than an RfC be called to prevent edit warring. I'll be glad to go ahead and do it.--Tenebrae (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not remove your content. We evidently had an edit conflict. I resent the implication, as I have done nothing in these proceedings that would even suggest that I would do such a thing. Your incivility and lack of good faith are remarkable.--Tenebrae (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It shows up that way sometimes when there's an edit conflict and one takes the "Your text" and puts it into the top box. Your blasphemous comment aside, you are wrong here. I did not remove your comment. In my entire history of Wikipedia, nearly 48,000 edits, I have never removed another editor's comments. Why would I start now? Your lack of good faith is appalling.--Tenebrae (talk) 17:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'No 'blasphemy'.? "Good God"?
I did not remove your content. An "edit conflict" screen came up, I put my "your text" into the main box, and that was all I did. How the programming works from there, I don't know. But I did not even touch your content. If you don't believe me for any other reason, just consider that I have no reason to remove your content, and even if I did have some cockamamie reason, do you seriously believe an editor of over 5 1/2 years and 48,000 edits doesn't know what a History page tracks? Jeeminy Christmas. I did not touch your comment. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you're unaware that in an "Edit conflict" page that moving material from "Your edit" to the top box supersedes what is in the top box, then that is not my problem. But to threaten me because you don't know that is an abuse of admin authority. If we're going to escalate this, fine. I can also bring up your verbal abuse and the way you're rejecting an RS journalistic source in order to move traffic to sales sites. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I admire your candor and your thoughtfulness, and I, too, am sorry for my own part in what escalated further than two experienced editors such as ourselves should have let occur. I'm absolutely happy to consider you a collegial colleague — someone who cares passionately about this project is a valuable resource. (Though I'm glad you put "my" in quotation marks.) Looking on the bright side, I've learned yet another nuance of the many Wikipedia policies and guidelines. So: No hard feelings, and I'll do what I can to rectify things. I appreciate your being an honorable person and having the integrity to post what you have on my talk page. With genuine regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 21:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]