Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Reggaeton, as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. NJGW (talk) 16:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A minor edit is a spelling change, insertion of whitespace, or switching out a word that some one used wrong. Any edit which changes the meaning of or adds text is not minor. NJGW (talk) 03:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Careful, you're at wp:3rr. It's probably time for you to start discussing this on the talk page. NJGW (talk) 05:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He made his 3rd revert after I went to sleep. Remember that this rule is about 24 hours. I just have this page watch listed because some one asked for a 3rd opinion... since it was an invalid request I said so and didn't take sides. I did keep it watchlisted though, and am merely trying to keep you informed that if an admin were watching he would probably block both of you for edit warring over the last few days. You should try to gain consensus on the talk page rather than reverting any more. NJGW (talk) 16:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, you will be blocked for vandalism. Editing others' protection requests is wholly unacceptable and is seen as harassment. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Cardmaker)} 07:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have made an ANI filing regarding your behavior tonight: WP:ANI#Reggaeton, El Machete and 74.248.71.191. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Cardmaker)} 07:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please calm down on the ANI discussion. Jeremy has not done anything obviously wrong here. Nor has the IP editor - you have not explained why you keep reverting their edits. You need to stop making acusations and explain the edit problems in more detail. The threats are not helping and if you keep it up you'll probably be blocked.

Calm down, explain. Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

El Machete Guerrero - this is a last warning. Stop attacking Jeremy and explain why you have been edit warring with the IP address on the article, and why their changes are inaccurate or improper. If you attack anyone further I will block you for disruptive editing. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

You continued to refuse to provide evidence that the changes made by the IP address were, in fact, vandalism. That you and they were going back and forth doesn't mean that their changes were wrong or were vandalism. Having investigated those, and not seen any evidence that they were vandalism, this is a simple content argument. As you chose not to discuss the content dispute but merely edit war, 18 times at least, you are blocked for 72 hours. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 09:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below.

You are full of it!!! I did answer why I thought it was vandalism here and then reminded you again here, READ! The fact that you continue to use "they" in your blocking comment and the HUGE fact that you did not block the IPs and only me shows your HUGE bias towards me and for that I will report you. You had every possible chance to do the right thing and chose not to and for that you need to be dealt with. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I do not believe this block is unjustified as I broke policy but I do believe the blocking admins behaviour is completely inappropriate he should be dealt with accordingly. He made a fake case against me for a checkuser with no evidence whatsoever showing his bias against me. He then completely ignored my replies to him on the ANI for reggaeton and said I did not reply when in fact I did. Then just now he lied about blocking the IP who had evaded a previous block and gamed the system with no consequence. Then he persisted in saying "they" when he very well knows it was one person making the edits in a weak veil to disguise his misconduct. He also now has his mates coming and harrassing me on my talkpage whislt I am blocked attempting to scare me. This has not been handled in an appropriate way and at the very least all IPs should be blocked aswell as it takes two to tango. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This isn't the venue for complaining about an admin or how other IPs involved in this may or may not be blocked as well. The fact remains that you violated WP:3RR. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: User talk:El Machete Guerrero. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Your attack on Georgewilliamherbert is uncalled for. If you disagree with a block, you can contest this block, make sure you read the text. However, I see your chances as very dim given your egregious behavior. Cerejota (talk) 10:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How in God's good name did I attack him?! Don't make unfounded accusations against me and kick me while I'm down. This does not present you in a good light and is uncalled for. And there is no need for your opinion as no one is asking for it, especially the User whom you have left this message. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I stopped reading at "you are full of it". That alone in an uncivil personal attack. I hope you realize what you did wrong (ie, there is no need to edit war vandals, specially if you are no pursuing wider community involvement on the issue). 18RR is automatically blockable. And your personal attacks were beyond the pale in every forum, and only served to hurt your case. If you feel the community is unfair, try to understand that you were asked multiple times to chill, and you just escalated. You wouldn't have been blocked for the 18RR (as the issue was resolved by protecting the article), but it was your continued disruption of the communit by name calling and personal attacks that got you blocked. In fact, had you apologized, I am sure you would have been unblocked: admins are not out to punish, but to prevent harm: apologizing prevents harm. A dishonest apology doesn't, so if you apologize and then go back to the previous behavior, the next block would be nasty. I also ask you to try to speak more in the talk page and edit less, that is, to follow WP:CONSENSUS and WP:BRD, so that you do not find yourself in the same situation again. If you are unable to disucss this topic without inflaming, try a different topic, or the community might choose to topic ban you.--Cerejota (talk) 00:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please direct me to where "you are full of it" is considered uncivil and a personal attack as I must have missed it when read the policies. You say I made personal attacks beyond the pale, but I say these accusations are unfounded. Yes I do have strong words, but they in no way of form can be considered personal attacks and I fail to fathom how you interpret them that way other then your want to defend your mate. And yes, now I do feel alot of you are unfair and as I already mentioned, do not tell me to "chill" because this makes me more angry and inflames the situation more, as it would for anyone. If the situation was reversed and you were having to defend yourself and I came in saying "chill man, chill" when I had nothing at all to do with the situation, I am certain you would not be like "You know what? You are exactly right! Thankyou, thankyou so much random person who has nothing to do with this, if it were not for you I would have forget to chill". You say it was my disruption and name calling that got me blocked, then please, please humour me and tell me exactly what disruption and name calling because I must have missed that too. I would not have apoligised for anything other than breaking the 3RR as I have nothing else to apoligise for, and in fact I should be apologised to by George for bringing an unfounded checkuser against me with no evidence whatsoever. You ask me to use the talkpage, but have you asked the IP editor who gamed the system and evaded a block? Let me answer for you, NO. Do me a favour and never speak to me again, I do not appreciate Georges mates coming here and poking fun while I am blocked. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 11:18, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're attacking him. You've made comments about his syntactic choices (and by the way, in case you haven't learned it, "they" is frequently used in English as a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun when referring to humans and organizations). You're using blatantly threatening language ("you need to be dealt with").

So? How is highlighting his choice of plural "they" over singular "him/her" attacking him? I did not know they is used as a gender neutral replacement for him or her, I only knew it was a plural word indicating more than one person which I am sure other people have read to be the same. As for threatening language, "dealt with", how else can I say this? I mean exactly what I say and he too has said similar things in his threats to block me which if you are telling me "dealt with" is threatening lanaguage I will provide you with his "threatening language". El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to get in a semantic argument with you. The point is that you have been extremely incivil to almost everyone who has attempted to resolve your dispute, and most recently with George. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 11:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? Is it because you know I am right? I have not been uncivil to anyone and have only been a mirror and reflected the way I have been treated by others. Something you should know about me is I am all about fair treatment, so I treat others how they treat me and I don't stand down to anyone. If some people don't like the way I have interacted with them, then maybe they should take a look at the way they have spoken to me and put themselves in my shoes. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 11:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, you definitely need to review the Wikipedia definition of vandalism. As George has repeatedly said, you need to provide some convincing evidence that the IP's edits were vandalistic in nature (in terms of the "official definition") or else you just look like another edit warrior. WP:3RR does not list non-obvious vandalism in its list of exceptions, and as the people at WP:ANI have been trying to make it clear, it is not obvious that the IP's edits were vandalism. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 10:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And once more for you I did provide you evidence of him removing content which I told George twice. This is what I labelled as vandalism, the removal of legitimate additions to comply with his POV. I have said this more then once and I am not a fan of repeating myself. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And furthermore, the IPs have been blocked via a rangeblock. There has been zero bias against you here, and your unsubstantiated claims thereof do not help your case. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 10:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What does this mean? Because all I know is that when I go to the following three IPs I do not see a block by George. User talk:74.248.71.191, User talk:74.248.71.213, User talk:74.248.71.136

Vandalism is defined as "any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia". You haven't shown that any substantial evidence that the IP editor was either compromising the integrity of Wikipedia, or even if so, that he/she was doing it intentionally. This is and has not been a matter of vandalism, but of a content dispute.

Well I took removal to be my reason labelling his removal of content as vandalism, because he constantly removed content which not only me but Largoplazo and Warrington all reverted. Are you telling me it is not vandal? Because removal is what stuck with me and is why I kept repeating it in my reason. This is besides the point anyway, as I was not blocked for using the word vandalism. I was blocked for breaking the 3RR. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 11:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:RANGE for what a range block is. It doesn't show up as an individual block, but the IPs are blocked. It might also help to understand what a subnet is. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 10:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so those three IPs are blocked then? How many other IPs are also blocked? El Machete Guerrero (talk) 11:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Rangeblock log.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 21:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have been confirmed to be abusing multiple accounts, as can be found here.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 09:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have not been confirmed to be abusing multiple accounts at all so do not lie. There are multiple accounts under this IP, but that in no way means I am abusing multiple accounts and commiting sock puppetry. You infact saying I am is considered an attack and you are breaking policy. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh please. Stop trying to twist policy to get your way. You have been confirmed to be operating multiple accounts, and unless you're a checkuser, you can't say you know the way checkuser works. Just because you consider something an attack doesn't mean it is. I could call you telling me that I've broken policy/violated it an attack, but that doesn't mean it is.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 21:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You had your chance, and now I am reporting you after I get off my block. You brought this upon yourself. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 02:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, you have your fun with that.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 02:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly do you hope to achieve? They're not going to block me because I cited that you've been found to be sockpuppeting.— Dædαlus ^Contribs 06:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nixeagle! Get here and explain yourself this instant as I cannot go to you because you have blocked me indefinately which is a complete joke!!! As I already mentioned there are multiple accounts under this IP but they have not been used abusively as sockpuppets and they are all legitimate! They all focus on different areas of wikipedia and different article spaces and are in no way used to avoid scrutiny and their edits combined would not be considered improper if done by a single account! So get here and explain yourself as you did not provide ANY evidence of abuse or give ANY reason for an indefinite block and I have been very patient in waiting till today to restart my edits only to find this ridiculous block has been put on me before I have had any chance! El Machete Guerrero (talk) 07:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

Read my talkpage

Decline reason:

I have read your talk page. You are not allowed to operate multiple accounts, especially when doing so is disruptive, so a block is both appropriate and necessary. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 09:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes I am FisherQueen, "owning multiple accounts is permitted on the English Wikipedia" and me doing so has not been disruptive other than the edit war I had with a blocked editor using multiple IPs to game the system, evade his block and abusively use his multiple accounts. Had I done the same as him it would be considered abuse and sockpuppetry, but I did not and I have not broken any policy except 3RR. So a further block is both inappropriate and unecessary. You are welcome to look at my contributions, all I have done to wikipedia is improve it in my time as a wikipedian. Take a look at these pages so you can understand me, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance, WP:SOCK, WP:MULTIPLE. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

FisherQueen please reply to my comment left for you on my talkpage, and please tell Nixeagle to explain his actions, cheers El Machete Guerrero (talk) 10:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This is not an unblock request. Please do not continue to abuse the unblock template, or you may be prevented from requesting further unblocks. Jayron32.talk.contribs 11:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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If you do not want me to be using this as a communication device Jayron32 then unblock me so I can leave a message on their talkpages. Or tell the users I requested to reply to me to actually do so and not ignore me. My hands are tied and I cannot do anything as I was unjustily blocked indefinately right when my just block was expiring which is ridiculous. El Machete Guerrero (talk) 13:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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El Machete Guerrero (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I am permitted to own multiple accounts "owning multiple accounts is permitted on the English Wikipedia" and me doing so has not been disruptive other than the edit war I had with a blocked editor using multiple IPs to game the system, evade his block and abusively use his multiple accounts. Had I done the same as him it would be considered abuse and sockpuppetry, but I did not and I have not broken any policy except 3RR. So a further block is both inappropriate and unecessary. You are welcome to look at my contributions, all I have done to wikipedia is improve it in my time as a wikipedian. Take a look at these pages so you can understand me, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance, WP:SOCK, WP:MULTIPLE. None of the accounts are sockpuppets and all of them are legitimate and concentrate on a particular area of wikipedia. In addition the check user was requested by fishing and not for legitimate reasons other than the fact I was in a debate with the user whom requested it. The code letter was F because he did not have a legitimate reason and he provided no diffs or evidence whatsoever. He infact acused me of being El Perso the original and an IP and gave the reason good hand/bad hand but provided no evidence whatsoever. Then when the results came back, and he knew he was wrong and had done the wrong thing which I was not aware of until he blocked me, he conceded to the fact that the multiple accounts were not sockpuppets on the AN/I page we argued on. Even though I most likely peeved him off with my hard words and our interactions with each other. You can see this here. So I am asking to have this ridiculous block lifted and allow me to get back to improving wikipedia as I have been as I was very patient waiting the three days for the block George put on me to expire only to find this ridiculous , no reason, no evidence block put ont me by Nixeagle. Cheers, El Machete Guerrero (talk) 03:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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