All discussions up to 22 May 2007 have been moved here: User talk:COFS/Archive1

I find this talk page incredibly intriguing. I have a personal interest in the scientology debate, but that aside let me just clarify for you one or two things.

Firstly, if your network has (as you report) almost 1000 users, your server must be literally state of the art, or you're using multiple servers - thus multiple IPs. Even if you are all running off one server, surely 1000 users will have their bandwidth split across several lines - thus multiple IPs. Finally, even if you're a network of 1000 users who are all operating off 1 server and 1 broadband (DSL, I believe SDSL to work slightly differently for IP assignment) connection, the check sock function (at least has the ability to) check by MAC address, thus narrowing to one computer.

I'd also like to add that the only plausible explanation for your network setup is some sort of filter (imposed by the church of scientology, by any chance?). The following filters do NOT warrant the described network setup, because their policies can be defined by enforced software, which is cheaper and much more efficient. The network load on a 1k client network would be... overwhelming for the best of servers. Anyway, the filters: Spam filter (email) - software is available commercially and open-source to prevent unsolicited emails. Most email browsers come with this pre-installed. Firewall (virus filter) - again, this is available in both hardware and software format, neither needing a 1000 pc network. Spam filter (virus) - most firewalls will block incoming spam that has been created by a virus. Web filter - my very own router has one of these, allbeit a bit basic. You can configure any standard PC/router network to block websites (although some require inputting all websites you want blocking which is time-consuming, there is commercially available software which is much more efficient and again, for home use).

So, you see, I don't understand why you're on a 1000PC network. I'd put it down to a poorly configured workplace network, but you said you weren't at work. Yoda 08:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yoda, I commend your up front acknowledgment and I will follow suit. Unlike yourself, I have no interest in the Scientology debate. Perhaps also unlike yourself, I have a great deal of experience in networks, network administration, internet access, ISP's, BGP routing and hosting services. A user network of over 1000 PC's with a single IP gateway is not uncommon for many large companies. And, although I saw no claim that all 1000 users are simultaneously accessing the internet, even if they were, a single source (outbound) IP would still not be uncommon.

Your suggestion that Multiple IP's are required to share across 'multiple lines' is also incorrect. Multiple servers (gateways) can provide connectivity from multiple upstream ISP's and still all route to a single http gateway (proxy) for web traffic. Additionally, it is not uncommon for a company to have an off-site http proxy, which can be used by multiple company locations. The off-site proxy can have 1gbps connectivity, far in excess of the limited DSL and SDSL services you suggest.

Unless you have specific knowledge of the network you are discussing, then it is a bit uninformed to suggest the limitations you describe or to imply that that the network is poorly configured.

Lsi john 18:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Sorry to say, but I am not on Wikipedia to discuss the nature, technology or bandwidth of my internet access (not that I would know much about those things at all) but to edit articles in my area of competence. So if you have a question let me know, otherwise sorry again that I can't make much out of what you wrote. COFS 18:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Falling leaves in autumn? Lsi john 03:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Metaphoric for "unimportant because it is so usual that it hurts" or something like that. COFS 03:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. ok. It's as significant as saying Grass is Green. Lsi john 03:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I invite you to read the my response to your comments on my talk page, as well as my actual edit. It seems your revert may have been a knee-jerk reaction rather than thought through, and you may wish to self-revert. Best, Really Spooky 11:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from Church of Scientology. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ~ Wikihermit _(HermesBot) 00:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at my changes before you are blasting around here. Tilman reverted perfectly sourced changes and put text in which is a clearcut WP:POV violation and full of weaselwords (which is another WP violation). COFS 00:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its cited. You can't removed unsourced matter because you don't like it. --~ Wikihermit _(HermesBot) 00:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wish it would be. But the reference does not say what the article text claims. Please look at it. COFS 00:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles do not satisfy reliable primary or secondary source requirements. Therefore, the Foster Report article cannot be used as a citation for the claim. Lsi john 02:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict)Okay, your revert was right. :-) Thanks! ~ Wikihermit _(HermesBot) 02:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]