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To do

• identify leading players from 1841 to 1863
• expand Garfield Sobers
• expand W G Grace
• expand History of English amateur cricket
• think about way forward for List of early English cricketers to 1786
• All-England Eleven – need to split out the Clarke/Parr team from the generic
• long-term – review 18th century articles and get them all up to B-class

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• User talk:BlackJack/Archive 1: July 2005 – July 2006
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• User talk:BlackJack/Archive 4: April – August 2007
• User talk:BlackJack/Archive 5: August 2007 – February 2008
• User talk:BlackJack/Archive 6: February 2008 – October 2008
• User talk:BlackJack/Archive 7: October 2008 –

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		The Oddball Barnstar
		For your contributions to articles on early English cricket Tintin (talk) 06:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		BlackJack is awarded this barnstar for his continued hard work in documenting the obscure parts of cricket. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 06:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cricket barnstar Jack, great work on creating articles for all the English cricket seasons. And thanks for filling in our coverage on historical cricket, where we're often weak. Here's a cricket barnstar for you. Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Belligerent Gnome Award I, Dweller, make you the first (and probably only) recipient of the Belligerent Gnome Award for your, erm belligerent gnoming, which irritates some people some of the time, but is exceedingly valuable to the project. Dweller 19:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Messages

Am familiar with this part but a confusion - "In those days, it was the leading bowler on each side who chose the place where wickets would be pitched". Bowler of which side - home or visitors ? Tintin 08:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, I don't usually disagree with your edits, but changing the "Famous Players" section of this article to "International Players" changes both the tone and the substance. Surely the aim of this section is not to be just another mechanistic list of international cricketers, but a list of those whose deeds were significant to Somerset, which is the subject of the article as a whole. And one aim might be to encourage readers to look further at other articles, so a degree of colour in descriptions is surely admissible. To call Lionel Palairet "England Test player" is baldly correct, but as a Test batsman Palairet was a failure, and his renown surely rests more (or as much) on his reputation as a stylist of the golden age (and as a batsman curiously omitted from Test teams for most of his career). Omitting Gimblett entirely seems harsh on any criteria, as he played Tests (and was picked for several others and then pulled out of them), and in this context we ought to say what McCool's contribution to Somerset cricket was rather more than a somewhat spurious reference to 1948, when he didn't play any Tests anyway. Roebuck, the latest addition by someone to this list, is surely more important to Somerset than Tom Richardson was. WINP, I reckon: we can surely afford to have some colour in here, and not only international cricketers contribute at county level. Johnlp (talk) 08:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good move. Always thought so, but never had enough motivation to make the move because of the possiblity of getting into a long debate with someone. I started seeing "Tip Foster" only in the last two-three years, thanks entirely to some individual in Cricinfo. Tintin 04:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm certain you will do so, but please check out the thread on WT:CRIC that YellowMonkey started concerning "Redlinked FC/List A players". If you do have any requests for teams whose names I haven't included on my first-class players lists page, feel free to contact me either on WT:CRIC or directly on my User talk page.

Hope you are doing well recently. I have spent so little time on Wikipedia lately that it's about time I got back into the swing of things. Bobo. 17:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bangladeshi cricket seasons has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. – PeeJay 22:13, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, mate. I was going to do a couple of Sri Lankan seasons, but I couldn't find info about the 2006-07 Sri Lankan season. Was first-class cricket suspended there at that time? – PeeJay 19:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Just fyi Category:Date of birth missing and all categories starting with "Date of..." should be plaved in discussion pages only. Not in article space. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 16:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. :) Unfortunately, this one was deleted under the speedy deletion criteria and is not eligible for G4. If the contributor doesn't follow through on the OTRS correspondence, it will be deleted again as a copyvio. If he does, it will probably find its way back to AfD where it can be judged on its merits. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) Wikipedia:OTRS is the system that handles e-mails to the Wikimedia Foundation. This one was originally nominated for AfD, but speedily deleted as a copyright violation. We got an e-mail indicating that it isn't a copyright violation, but hosted with permission. The e-mail wasn't quite good enough to confirm that legally, though. The article has been restored and blanked until we can clear that up. If the contributor clears it up, then the speedy deletion criterion will no longer apply, so it can't be redeleted as a copyvio. But the AfD can proceed. It's a lot of hoops to jump through for what seems like inappropriate material, but there you have it. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that you enjoy both Arlott on Cricket and your holiday. I agree that TMS is not what it was. It's become too jokey for my taste, with Jonathan Agnew and Phil Tufnell being the worst offenders. Of course one wanta a leavening of hunour, but not at the expense of describing what's going on on the field. JH (talk page) 09:02, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see from the references that you've added to WG's article that you now have Arlott on Cricket. I hope that you're enjoying it. JH (talk page) 08:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear that you had a good holiday, and that you've been enjoying the book. Yes, what I wrote about Alresford was all taken from that book. He's also very good on Hambledon, of course, as you'd expect from a Hampshire man. Cheers. JH (talk page) 16:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you so convinced that the bit about WG playing foorball was rubbish? It seemed to me plausible that he might have done as a young man, though I added a "citation needed" tag as it clearly needed some evidence in support. JH (talk page) 20:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just dide a Google search on Grace Wanderers football and it turned up a relevant hit on http://books.google.co.uk/ in a book entitled The Wanderers F.C.: five time F.A. Cup winners by Rob Cavallini. Google Books shows the whole of the relevant page of the book, and it seems completely above board, so I'll be restoring it to the article, complete with citation. (A better Google search turned out to be Grace Wanderers Alcock, when the relevant Google Books entry is the first hit.) JH (talk page) 20:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(: Judging from the text from Cavallini's book available on Google Books, it seems that WG probably got involved with the Wanderers through his friendship with CW Alcock, who was a leading light of the club. He is mentioned as scoring against Clapham Rovers in 1871-2. I managed to find other passing references to his football here and here. In the latter case he plays agaubst Sheffield at Bramall Lane in 1872-3. JH (talk page) 09:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per your comments at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Charles_Dawson, I have indef blocked this user until they commit to contributing in a more constructive manner. I have marked the matter resolved, but if he pops up again feel free to let me know. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Hi. Thanks very much for your help. As you say, editors must act constructively. I'm always happy to help someone who is learning and means well but this character was definitely trying something on. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 11:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alas, as CricInfo is the only source readily available to me, all I can do it start out. Feel free to be bold. SGGH ^ping! 20:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder how a players with such a limited career in fcc be anything other than a 'stub' class. What would you add? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.1.153 (talk) 14:46, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty. His best performances in 1946 and the significance of his efforts to Yorkshire's title for a start. His career in minor counties. His war record. His career after he finished playing as he was still involved in the game. His personal and family life. His style and technique as a player, especially as a bowler. All of that if suitably referenced could easily move the article up to B-class. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 16:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I should look in from Lads to Lords —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.144.26 (talk) 23:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hardly. That covers cricket to 1787 whereas Booth played in the 20th century. ----Jack | ^{talk page} 05:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Can you offer your thought on the template talk page of having a pointless map in a navigation template such as Template:Postalhistorybycountry. It bloats an already oversized navigation templates and really has no purpose. If people are so dumb that they don't know where Asia is they can look... I propose we split the template into seperate ones by continent Himalayan 10:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've stubbed Postage stamps and postal history of Bosnia & Herzegovina, Postage stamps and postal history of Bahrain, Postage stamps and postal history of Bhutan, Postage stamps and postal history of Cambodia, Postage stamps and postal history of Albania, Postage stamps and postal history of Belarus, Postage stamps and postal history of Belgium, Postage stamps and postal history of Andorra today. Could you expand a few of them in your own time? Gradually we'll get most of them up and running on here... I'll start with A-D... Himalayan 21:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jack. I saw your "delist" comment at the List of Cricket World Cup records. I agree there's a lot to do, but you specifically mentioned problems with whitespace. I've tried the page in both Safari and Firefox and have no problems. Are you referring to the space between the TOC, the picture of the World Cup, and the Notation section? If so then that shouldn't be a major issue, I'll collapse the TOC down to level 1 only and when I've expanded the lead, we should have no major problems. Anyway, if you're having problems with other images (you said they were aligned incorrectly?), could you help me out with exactly what you're seeing? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have I solved the whitespace problem? The Rambling Man (talk) 10:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented at WP:ANI#User:Portsmouth&Southsea re your raising the issue there. Mjroots (talk) 08:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you suspect that P&S is a sockpuppet, WP:SPI is the place to go. I just AGF'd that the user is new, that's all. Mjroots (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

“I think you will find that this user and User:HampshireCricketFan are one and the same person”

So dickhead what evidence do you have for that remark? None whatsoever, absolutely none. Looking at the comments you leave on others User Talk pages and on other pages around this site it is clear you are one arrogant son of a bitch, completely stuck up your own arse and full of your own self importance.

“Very surprised to see this here and I would disagree strongly with the view that this page is "is the most comprehensive page on an English County Championship team". Nowhere near: see Yorkshire, for example”

What person lists an article written mostly by themselves? Right, someone of the above mentioned description - an arrogant cock.

It is funny seeing the way you comment other people, talking down to them like you being an admin is of such importance: You the fucking man... not! As if anyone gives a flying fuck. Epic fail Jack, epic fucking fail.

“You appear to have missed the irony of my use of quotes re "new" user on the ANI page... I suggest that you need to look a little deeper and trust experienced editors rather than immediately evoking sympathy for the poor "new" user.”

Yet another example of your holier than thou attitude, even when people correct you your own self arrogance shows. Quite honestly Jack you are a complete twat and it really is time you stopped masturbating over your own self importance. HampshireCricketFan (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]