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Rich Farmbrough RfA question

Hi BDD, sorry for the really tardy response to question you posed at my talkpage (User talk:Maxim#Rich Farmbrough RFA). Dealing with oppose votes that are based on a candidate's opinions is tricky. On one hand, how someone applies policy is reasonable to assess at RfA; on the other hand, if the candidate has a strong opinion on a matter, would he not have the judgment to recuse with regards to administrative actions? I wouldn't qualify an argument along the lines "candidate is an extreme inclusionist/deletionist" as particularly strong unless there were other arguments associated with that stance. In the case of Rich's RfA, I didn't find that a particularly strong argument, in comparison to the many others presented. To summarize the answer in a nutshell... I wouldn't consider your oppose vote especially strong unless it was qualified by other related details. Hope this helps, Maxim(talk) 14:06, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, Maxim, and I hope I'm not belaboring the point. If I knew a candidate had radical views but I was confident he would have the judgment to set them aside as an admin, of course I wouldn't hold the views against him. My point was that I did not have such confidence. I thought that was obvious, but apparently not. I'll try to elaborate if I find myself making future votes of that kind. --BDD (talk) 13:24, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Just wondering, do you foresee a possible close of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 3#Breeds of horse? based in what is currently in the discussion? I know I started the discussion, but the more I read the discussion, the more confused I get about what the consensus is. I'm thinking that this discussion might need to be advertised to other venues (possibly with a note on Talk:Horse which has over 700 page watchers, or maybe ... I hate to say it ... an RFC.) Steel1943 (talk) 22:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

It's definitely complicated. I think I could come up with a close, but I'm going to at least have to make a table to figure out what's going to happen with each item. Normally I'm in favor of bundling nominations, and I don't blame you for having done so there, but with the benefit of hindsight, it would've been better to have it in smaller pieces for easier digestion. --BDD (talk) 23:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. When I started that nomination, I was definitely doing so with the opinion that they would all have the same outcome. Well, so much for that! Steel1943 (talk) 23:31, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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Found an essay which you may be interested

While I was performing some dummy edits, I found this Wikipedia essay: Wikipedia:Pokémon test. I know that recently, you had taken a bit if interest in the Digimon-related redirects that were nominated, and this essay may explain some sort of concept for handling the Digimon redirects and articles. I haven't had a chance yet to look through this essay, but from the first few sentences, it looks like this essay may be helpful. Steel1943 (talk) 17:01, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I was aware of this, and think I even remember the days of individual Pokémon articles! This may be personal bias, but I think Pokémon is so much more obviously notable than Digimon that the latter really doesn't even need as much detail as our list of Pokémon. But I haven't made a real effort to work on any Digimon articles, though. The anime WikiProject has a Digimon task force, though it would surprise me if it were very active. --BDD (talk) 17:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Referencing

As requested, I am responding to your invitation for discussion on references. I was looking over the references provided, and found two to be blogs, and one to the transcript of a QA session of a student council. An entire article has been based on these three sources, without inline citations, and with a number of the claims on the page that did not seem to be supported in those references. I do not have issues with the nature of the page; I don't believe it to be an issue of bias on my part - but isn't one often blind to their own biases? So, happy to discuss :-) ScrpIronIV 12:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi ScrapIronIV, and thanks for getting in touch. Blogs can be reliable sources. This one is an official blog of a presidential studies center at a university. This one seems well sourced and professional-looking, though it may be mostly the work of one person, and I wouldn't've worked from it alone. And this one looks a bit sloppy aesthetically, but you've got an author credit, an editor, and lots of sourcing. Which of the sources was a QA session of a student council? I didn't see anything like that. The first source I referred to was in response to a question, but otherwise I don't see anything related to student councils.
Not all statements need inline citations—just those "challenged or likely to be challenged". If you think this is all likely to be challenged due to the controversial topic, you might have a point. If there were specific statements you had concerns about, we can discuss them. I mostly chose to forgo inline citations there because I essentially would've just cited everything to one of those sources (probably all three) or those used in linked articles. I wanted to put readability first, though I realize I may need to make some compromises in that area. Finally, I would say that bad sourcing is still better than no sourcing, so simply removing an article's references probably isn't the best way of dealing with those situations. Tags like {{self-published}} and {{unreliable sources}} can draw attention to these sorts of issues, and if you do end up removing all references, you can at least leave {{unreferenced}}. Anyway, looking forward to hearing back from you. --BDD (talk) 13:14, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I am sure there are often better ways to do things than I do, I am still learning as I go. I thank you for the suggestions. My goal was to start a discussion, and I have found that making particularly bold revisions can accomplish that, although sometimes I guess it makes me look contentious. Half the time I get good discussion, and I learn something, and half the time I get my head handed to me on a platter :-)
If we could start with the Hauenstein Center, that article is a response from the organization to an open question on their site, and resembles a forum in that regard. As it is a studied response by the organization, it is the best source in the list. Two issues I have with it, though, are: First, we do not know who authored the response, merely that it was posted on their website. The organization has both student and faculty members. Second, the only sources it quotes are racematters.org (an arguably partisan organization) and NAS, and although it is now defunct, it is particularly interesing when looking at it on the Wayback Machine. If that source were to be used directly - as it is fully attributed to authors - it might be more valuable. It also adds some depth to the character of those presidents, and quotes from them.
Looking forward to your response! ScrpIronIV 13:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I suppose a student could've written the Hauenstein Center piece, though that's arguably true about any academic source without specific author credits. In absence of one, I think we need to just look to the notability of the corporate name under which it was written.
I conceived of this article a few months ago and was going to wait until I could go to a library where I could refer to a bunch of print sources related to the US presidency, which I ultimately realized I don't have the time for. Eventually, I think I or someone else should do something like that to beef up the article. I think it's a very interesting subject that could be a featured list someday. For now, this is a start, and it's out there for other Wikipedians to contribute to. --BDD (talk) 14:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion request

Will you speedily delete User:Godsy/common.js per WP:U1 for me? I have no use for the page (User:Godsy/vector.js serves my needs at the moment). I would slap a speedy deletion tag on it (and I've tried), but it doesn't seem possible (at least to my knowledge) due to the nature of the page.Godsy(TALKCONT) 21:24, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

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Requested Move

Hi BDD, I'm so so sorry! - Lord knows how but I was actually looking at the wrong bloody RM!! , Christ I think should go back to bed lol, Anyway my apologies for that, Anyway thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 14:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry about it! It's not unheard of for me to write the wrong term into the closing statement, so at first I thought it was my mistake. I definitely see the source of confusion. --BDD (talk) 14:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Nope you definitely didn't write or do anything wrong - It's just me having 5 minutes of madness! , I probably deserve trouting to death after that mess up , Ah well these things happen .... I guess!, Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:08, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Why not weigh in and vote? You said that policy supports both the current title and the other title. You don't have to relist it; just put it back in backlog. --George Ho (talk) 18:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

We're not going to get consensus from that discussion, and I don't feel strongly enough about it to vote. --BDD (talk) 18:36, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

SMALLDETAILS

I saw in your closing at Talk:The_White_Shadow_(TV_series)#Requested_move_27_July_2015 that you wrote: "I note SMALLDETAILS, but also that its application is very inconsistent." Did you mean that WP:SMALLDETAILS is generally used inconsistently throughout WP, or specifically at this RM discussion. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 19:03, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

The former. I'll edit my statement to clarify that—apologies for any confusion. --BDD (talk) 19:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I dont monitor RM enough to disagree with your assertion. However, it'd be disturbing that SMALLDETAILS is a policy if it doesn't reflect common practice. I might use this RM as a point of discussion at Wikipedia talk:Article titles to see if changes are warranted. Any objections?—Bagumba (talk) 19:25, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
*shrug* I mostly work at RfD these days, but I used to be very heavily involved at RM, and that's my opinion from having seen a lot of these discussions. You're welcome to discuss this, but my hunch is that things will remain as they are. The thing about SMALLDETAILS is that it's really an option. The wording is squishy, probably intentionally, and it permits more so than it prescribes. If you'd prefer it to be harder, I do sympathize, but I'd be surprised if consensus could really be built to do so. --BDD (talk) 19:30, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't doubt if working on content ends up being a more effective use of my time :-) Just bugs me that it's a policy if it's inconsistently applied, esp. if it's not afforded more weight at closing time. I'll re-read it based off your input, and see if it's worthy of getting into my schedule. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 19:46, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I agree. I think sometimes, SMALLDETAILS-type differences are called for, and other times they're not. Since the search box often behaves case-insensitively, titles that differ only in capitalization may get lost in the shuffle. But the practice seems fine, and results in more concise titles, when you have a proper noun and a common one, like the main example of Red meat and Red Meat. We wouldn't have to mandate "always do this" or "always do that", but I'd like something that spells out "if X, do this; if Y, do that". --BDD (talk) 19:49, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Inappropriate external links

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Otterathome, yes, I think you've made a big mistake, and I think you removed articles which are entirely appropriate for an encyclopedia. I see you've chosen to "template" me, but I assume you're referring to [1], [2], and [3]. I encourage you take a less knee-jerk response to Know Your Meme, which does a good job describing internet memes. "Reliable source" isn't a label that a source just does or doesn't have; a source is reliable if it makes a reliable claim in the context. (And for the external links, it's not really making a claim at all.) To address these edits individually: for Walk the Dinosaur, fine. As I mentioned in the hidden text, the link was all about justifying the article's membership in Category:Internet memes. Since you removed the category, the link doesn't make much sense either, and that's a fairly obscure meme. For Mudkip, I'm not sure why you kept the category when removing the link. There again, I would say both or neither should be present. Finally, for Chuck Norris facts, I think you're dead wrong. That information justifies the Vin Diesel facts redirect (cf. RfD) and states factual information in (perhaps unfortunately) one of the most formal contexts we'll realistically have available to refer to. Please reconsider. I reverted you there, so let this be the D in WP:BRD. --BDD (talk) 20:46, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I've "templated" you, as you have not read the guidelines. Your reply has yet again shown you have not read them even after my first message. As knowyourmeme is home to copyright violations (WP:ELNEVER), opinions, lack of fact checked info, being an open wiki WP:ELYES, so violates 2, 8, 12 of WP:ELNO. If you cannot find a reliable source for Vin Diesel facts to mention in the article, then redirect should be deleted, not not the restoration of unreliable sources to its target Chuck Norris facts. If you continue to restore unambiguously inappropriate links\unreliable sources, I will "template" you again.--Otterathome (talk) 11:39, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Two questions: How does KYM host copyright violations? How do these removals help readers? --BDD (talk) 17:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm confused

You closed the RM at Talk:Bongbong Marcos as a no-consensus. Doesn't policy state that it should be moved back? Raykyogrou0 (Talk) 20:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

"Bongbong" was the result of the previous RM. Sparse as the discussion was, it was upheld at MRV. That's the new default title. --BDD (talk) 20:38, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Protection level

Was wondering if you would lower the protection level you installed at the Template:Redirect from duplicated article page? It's presently at full protection, so could you lower that to template protected? This and one other are is the last of these rcat redirects that have not had their protection lowered. (Also, please note how the This is a redirect template automatically senses the protection level now, so that when and if protection levels are changed, then there will be no future need to add/remove templates.) Thank you in advance for your consideration! Painius  01:18, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Sure, Paine. I actually only installed that protection in a technical sense—the page was protected already, and then I renamed it. I'll ping the admin who protected it back in 2008, Fish and karate, though my guess is the situation has changed over the years. I'll bring it down to semi-protection. How's that? --BDD (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
That's great! Thank you very much, BDD, I checked through Special:ProtectedPages to make sure that was the last of them. Joys! and Best of Everything to You and Yours! – Painius  20:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Name articles

I think I've mentioned this before, but the section of MOS:APO that you were using to move these articles was unilaterally added in 2013, and I do not agree with it. WP:PRECISION should trump a WikiProject guideline that nobody else even follows. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:29, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's well within policy itself. "Name" is more WP:CONCISE than either "surname" or "given name", is less tied to specific cultural traditions, and doesn't exclude the fairly frequent cases in which a name is usually used one way but occasionally used another (usually, a surname that gets used as a given name). Except where length or other concerns dictate we have separate given name and surname articles, why not? --BDD (talk) 13:33, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I didn't realize there was talk page discussion, or that that language had been removed a few days ago. I'll join in there. --BDD (talk) 13:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Usain "Lightning" Bolt

I spotted this decline of yours. You might want to reconsider per [4]. Also: Google. ;) 85.178.212.184 (talk) 05:52, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh, no one's denying that nickname. The problem is that, given Wikipedia's naming conventions, "(nickname)" looks like disambiguation. So a redirect with that name suggests an article about the nickname. Variations like Lightning Bolt (runner) or Usain "Lightning" Bolt could still be appropriate, however. --BDD (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad. Missed the _(nickname) part. [[File:|25px|link=]] Carrying on. 85.178.212.184 (talk) 13:20, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Hugh Adam

Thanks for procedurally closing Hugh Adam that (and kinda double thanks cos I think you are an admin and can close it any way you choose). The reference you originally gave, from the Scottish Daily Record, which I think is owned ultimately by Mirror Group Newspapers, I found two different (both Scottish papers) so this can serve too as a third RS, thanks. It rather a stub at the moment but my experience is that once the scaffolding is in place, "normal" editors will have a go and add stuff. I would have liked to have put in a pic but all I can find are very strictly copyright. Si Trew (talk) 14:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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I noticed you changed the category on Riverside, Lafayette County, Mississippi. What's the difference between a "former populated place" and a "ghost town"? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:56, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Good question! I don't know. "Ghost towns" is a subcat of "Former populated places", and I suppose only appropriate for places actually called ghost towns, but... yeah, they seem pretty much synonymous to me. --BDD (talk) 01:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Greek fonts in a printer's font case

Hi BDD,

I suspect you're right that many printers would have Greek letters in their font case, but I also suspect by no meaans all would. Knuth notes for example in his essay/lecture Mathematical Typography, discussing the history of the Transactions of the American Mathematical Society in a lecture about a system that went on to be TeX and METAFONT, that frequently the Greek letters are not in the same typeface as the running text, as they would not necessarily be available in italic fonts or particular sizes, for example. Were it not off--topic I'd RS it to the version avaiable online from University of Michigan, here.) Unfortunately, these days "font" tends to be used in what is rightly called a "typeface": a font is, stricly, an instance of a typeface at a particular style, weight and size. Si Trew (talk) 05:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Where I've seen mixed Greek and Roman scripts, I've often seen the Greek letters set apart, which certainly supports the idea of them being in a different typeface. I suspect context would have a lot to do with the availability of Greek letters. Anyone printing a lot of religious or scholarly materials probably would have them, though your average jobber printing playbills and legal documents probably would not. What I think is certain is that in the pre-industrial print era, Greek letters would be available, broadly speaking. Whether it was economical for a given printer to invest in them is a different question. ({{globalize}}: I'm really just talking about printing in your motherland.) --BDD (talk) 12:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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US Presidential Election redirect follow-up

Hey BDD, if you're going to delete 2020, you should get United States Presidential Election, 2020 as well. (I can't remember why I didn't add it before, probably because it was a different author. It seems obvious now...) -- Tavix (talk) 17:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done --BDD (talk) 17:49, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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Could you please block User:12.174.180.50 because he is not stoping with the vandalism, and we already reported him to AIV. CLCStudent (talk) 15:06, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Which IP did you mean? I see that one vandalizing other pages. User:190.196.11.163 was vandalizing Black Friday bushfires a couple of weeks ago. --BDD (talk) 15:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
User:12.174.180.50 is vandalizing Glooscap. I see I accidentally wrote this under the Black Friday Bushfire section, but this is a different case. CLCStudent (talk) 15:11, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
A different admin got it. CLCStudent (talk) 15:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Neelix-like sockpuppets

Responding here so as not to clutter the RfD page. These are the ones I have seen:

I don't think that they are Neelix, just some random troll. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I doubt they're Neelix as well. --BDD (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Just to let you know - AfD culture

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Thanks for the notification. I don't have anything to add right now, though I wouldn't mind being pinged if I'm mentioned further. --BDD (talk) 16:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:RfD

Hi BDD,

Could you cast a gander over the topic at WT:RFD where I am bashing on about this title stuff. I think I have my meaning clear, Rs can vary from WP:TITLE but not too much, the cats that we have exclude those particular naughtinesses (that sounds very Neelix); it doesn't matter if they are currently categorised like that but that they could be as part of routine RfD (I routinely rcat Rs up for discussion and my "without prejudice" stamp is running out) and of course WP:IAR and WP:COMMONSENSE.

But as a guideline, it's a start but I'm sure could be polished (or outright rejected). I am not, I hope, WP:CANVASSing here, asking you as an editor not an admin, and asking you as an intelligent editor who quite often disagrees with me, always politely, as I hope I do with you. Si Trew (talk) 01:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

I beter @Ivanvector: as the other one I grumbled these views to; WT:RFD is even more a backwater than RfD itself. It's even more obscure than Canada. Si Trew (talk) 01:38, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Merge or be bold

Hi, last month, I tagged you for a discussion at Talk:SLB Fans. I merged the content as you suggested, but I was wandering if I should merge Mística and O Benfica too, or put it through a merge discussion? I don't think it's really a controversial merge, but I a second opinion is best. Being here for I while, I know that neither article will ever be expanded beyond the 3 or 4 sentences they have, because the pool of skilled editors interest in the subject is negligible.--Threeohsix (talk) 18:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Threeohsix, I think you're right. Perhaps a Publications section at Supporters of S.L. Benfica describing them. --BDD (talk) 14:26, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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No fringe theory

Hi BDD, thank you very much for your action concerning Oxfordian theory. Right now new evidence has become known, concerning the famous portrait (engravery) of WS by Martin Droeshout. Everybody can see that this is a caricature, with some very grave implications for the existing theories. In addition to your action, I have taken initiative on the page Shakespeare authorship question. There I have deleted three categories, as they were nonsensical. My preview was: There is no reason for those three categories. This article is not theoretical, it is a historical overview. No theory is being acclaimed. I hope you can support it. Nice day to you, --Zbrnajsem (talk) 16:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Zbrnajsem. I'm afraid you may have misunderstood my edit. The Oxfordian article doesn't belong in Category:Fringe theory simply because it's already in two of its subcategories: namely Category:Conspiracy theories and Category:Shakespeare authorship question. There are two questions we need to ask here: is the Oxfordian theory a conspiracy theory, and it is a fringe theory? Reflecting the generally negative connotations of "conspiracy theory", Wikipedia categorizes conspiracy theories as a type of fringe theory. I don't really think we should. A conspiracy theory is simply that—a theory that people conspired to do something. And sometimes, that's exactly the case (e.g., General Motors streetcar conspiracy). So, is the Oxfordian theory a conspiracy theory? Yes. It's a theory that people conspired to obscure the Earl of Oxford's authorship of the plays attributed to Shakespeare. I suppose it doesn't have to be; I've heard suggestions that "everyone" knew, at the time, that Oxford was the true author and that the whole Shakespeare thing was a farce, but I believe this does not reflect most Oxfordian thought.
So it's a conspiracy theory, keeping in mind that that isn't a judgment on its truth. (That's beyond the scope of Wikipedia.) Is it a fringe theory, then? As defined by Wikipedia, we must say yes. Climate change is the relevant analogy here. Most Shakespearean scholars are "Stratfordians", so it would be misleading of Wikipedia to suggest that Oxfordianism is a major viewpoint in Shakespearean scholarship. Again, that's not the same as saying it's wrong.
I think Shakespeare authorship question should be under Category:Fringe theories, but not necessarily Category:Conspiracy theories. I'm not really familiar enough with the idea of pseudohistory, but my first thought is that that category is appropriate too. I will leave your edits for others to revert if desired, though. I know how contentious this issue can be. --BDD (talk) 17:07, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

I invite you to an ongoing RM. --George Ho (talk) 17:09, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Something went wrong with the Light News relisting at RfD

Sorry old bean but your relisting of Light News just now at WP:RFD has knocked out display of the sections below it (my listing of Irab Islam or whatever it was, yours of the Neelix redirects similarly). They are there in the text but your listing doesn't show up as a relist either, just as if it were listed new; something's afoot there. I'd rather you fix it than you and I get stacks of edit conflicts. Forgive the lack of full links etc, better let you know sooner rather than later. Si Trew (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that... the text is still there. I've seen something like this before and I think it just sorted itself out, so I was going to just wait and see. You could check at WP:HD or something. Everything is still accessible in the page history, so I'm not too concerned yet. --BDD (talk) 21:29, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I got it, I'd missed a close brace in the original listing on my final comment; presumably dropped silently by the parser in the original listing. It's OK now, I think. Si Trew (talk) 21:35, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Yep, looks good to me too. I should've known it was your fault! Just kidding. Well... like 90% or more kidding. :P --BDD (talk) 21:36, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
No worries, I am the younger of twins, I am used to everything being my fault. ;) Si Trew (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

AN/I discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an editor for whom you left a talk page caution.[5] The thread is Professor JR on political articles. Thank you. - Wikidemon (talk) 10:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Not really a caution—just a pre-XfD question. I can't contradict the evidence you've presented, but in that case, the editor was courteous and deferential. --BDD (talk) 12:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Untitled

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Endemic

Hi BDD: Just wanted to give you a heads up that I've removed a couple of the categories you added to Black-billed nightingale-thrush with this edit back in May 2014. A species is endemic only if its found in one region and nowhere else, so adding this bird to both "Endemic fauna of Costa Rica" and "Endemic fauna of Panama" is not correct. If there were an "Endemic fauna of Costa Rica and Panama" or "Endemic fauna of the Chiriqui highlands" or something of that ilk, it would be appropriate to add the species there. Let me know if you have any questions! MeegsC (talk) 15:12, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Got it. It might make sense to tweak the language used in the article to avoid other people making the same mistake. --BDD (talk) 04:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Requested move of Sun-Air of Scandinavia

I declined this as a technical move, but transferred your RMTR comment into a discussion at at Talk:Sun-Air of Scandinavia#Requested move 16 December 2015. You cited MOS:CT, but perhaps you meant MOS:TM? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 22:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Sure did. Thanks for letting me know. --BDD (talk) 22:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I frankly don't understand this close.[6] There's no dispute that the "Male Escort Award" (mentioned in Aaron Lawrence (entrepreneur) is a different (minor, non-notable) award from the "International Escorts Award" (also minor and non-notable) mentioned in List of gay pornography awards. Redirects should be cheap, but they shouldn't be just plain wrong. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 16:41, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't see what other outcome was possible after the discussion sat for over a month. Ivanvector's reply to you after the first list seems to sum it up best. If Aaron Lawrence (entrepreneur) has a bad wikilink, it should be removed. I'm not familiar with the inclusion criteria over at List of gay pornography awards, but if the awards don't fit, perhaps they should be removed too. At that point, I think you'd find consensus to delete the redirect. --BDD (talk) 16:44, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Well, there were three delete !votes, one keep. and one weak keep. Between the majority of guideline-based votes and the wrong redirect target, I do think there was a consensus to delete. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:56, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Enrique Márquez for deletion

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I think he may be best known as a poet. I can't find any of his paintings online btw--can you? Or are you able to find more references from books, etc. please?Zigzig20s (talk) 11:46, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll move it to "poet", then. I figured painting and poetry are both part of the arts, broadly construed, but if he's better known as a poet, that's probably more appropriate. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Good job. Feel free to expand the article if you can.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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Template shortcut "J"

In accord with WP:DRVPURPOSE, I would like you to do me a favor and clarify your reason for "finding consensus to delete" this shortcut. Aside from the fact that this is a useful (1,000+ transclusions) and harmless shortcut, aside from the fact that there are thousands and thousands of very similar shortcuts used on Wikipedia, and aside from the 2:1 !vote ratio, in my humble opinion the delete rationales in the discussion were not weighty enough to come close to a consensus. Generally, I recognize your experience in closing discussions and your usual good judgement whether or not I agree; however, I truly do not understand this unusual and questionable close. Please explain.  Paine  11:15, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Paine, I know you hold these types of redirects dear, but I'm afraid that's affecting your reading of the discussion. It's not the first time something like this has happened. Nor is this a case—correct me if I'm wrong—where one editor is singling them all out. Editors come across these oblique redirects, bring them up as misleading, and they're deleted. It's clear that other editors do not find the likes of Template:J harmless. I note that you (and presumably others) find it useful. Usefulness is listed as a reason to keep at RfD, but it's one that I can't in good conscience weigh very heavily as a closer. Virtually any redirect will be found useful by someone. Should that be given more weight than someone who finds one harmful? There may be "thousands and thousands" of similar redirects—I'm a bit skeptical that there are quite so many—but they were not under discussion there. And the way these discussions have been going, their days may be numbered anyway.
I know you do excellent work with templates. I don't want you to get discouraged. I do want others to be able to easily take up the same sort of work without learning another esoteric language. Templates are hard enough as is! --BDD (talk) 14:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons' greetings!

BDD, Hope your holidays are happy, and have a happy new year! Steel1943 (talk) 17:25, 23 December 2015 (UTC)