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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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For a step-by-step guide to filling out the {{NewDYKnom}} template, see Template:NewDYKnomination/guide.

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}
To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

To add a comment: |comment=

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An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | author       = User1
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Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the additional rules.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

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{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with `{{subst:DYKproblem\|Article}}`
{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with `{{subst:DYKproblem\|Article}}`
{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 24

List of bordering countries with greatest differences in GDP (PPP) per person

... in relative terms, the greatest disparity of per capita wealth between two neighbouring countries is between Botswana and Zimbabwe?

Created by User:Kransky. Self nom at 07:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length are fine. I think the article needs more citations though per per D2. Also, is there a way that you could make the citation for the hook more clear? The link goes to a database rather than to the article about Botswana. Fascinating article, BTW. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added/changed a few links. But I am not sure what you are referring to in the hook (I have rewritten the hook to focus more on the measurement, not the border.Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(fixed typo in hook) Sorry, I really wasn't very clear there at all. My thinking was that the fact in the hook wasn't explicitly stated in the prose (though it is obvious in the table). Qrsdogg (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This fact is a little debatable. Assuming the data in the list are correct, Zimbabwe and Botswana are the pair with the greatest relative difference in wealth (Botswana's GDP per capita is 33 times that of Zimbabwe), but it is not the greatest absolute difference (which appears to be Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which differ by $121,000). Ucucha 18:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

True - but given a choice between making a relative comparison or an absolute comparison, would you not agree that a relative comparison is more useful? Income per capita appears to have a longer tail amongst the wealthiest country (if the mean is around $20,000, DR Congo's $300 is much closer to the middle than Qatar's $121,000). The Zimbabwe-Botswana difference highlights two totally different economies. The Saudi Arabia-Qatar differences separates the very rich from the ridiculously super rich. Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it's probably the more useful comparison. However, my concern is that a reader of the hook may well think that the absolute difference is meant (at the very least, that's what I thought). A hook shouldn't be ambiguous or misleading in that way. Ucucha 14:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added "In relative terms" for hook. Is this sufficient? Kransky (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks. Ucucha 12:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Do you mean to say~~

... that the greatest ratio of per capita wealth between two neighbouring countries is between Botswana and Zimbabwe? How can we evaluate that you diligently considered all bordering countries in the world? Materialscientist (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Greatest ratio of per capita wealth" sounds ambiguous. Greatest ratio of assets to income? The reference to "differences" makes it clear we are talking about measures of disparity. FYI I tracked down a spreadsheet with all the 309 pairs of countries with a border. I then cross-linked each listed country to its respective figure of GDP(PPP) per capita as listed in the CIA Factbook. I divided the difference between each pair of neighbouring countries, and turned the figure into a proportion. It was then an easy procedure to identify the pairs with the greatest differences. Kransky (talk) 13:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Difference is a wrong term: you divided (took ratio) values in the table, not subtracted (difference). How about countries with disputed status? Materialscientist (talk) 13:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see where you are getting at - strictly speaking difference is a measure of absolute contrast. What term then describes a measure of relative contrast, or can I say "relative difference"? Thanks for changing 'difference' to 'ratio' in the chart BTW. What do you mean by "disputed status"? Kransky (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Relative difference" might be Ok if you took a difference and divided it by one of the values, but you just divided, thus ratio. "Difference" might be Ok in the article title though because it means to say "disparity, dissimilarity". "Disputed" meant Kosovo-like entities (Abkhazia, etc.). Materialscientist (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just a thought, but I bet there's a huge difference between Morocco and the (disputed) Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. ~~But you already included Western Saraha, my bad. Qrsdogg (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

~~... in relative terms, the greatest relative disparity of per capita wealth between two neighbouring countries is between Botswana and Zimbabwe?~~
~~I have renamed the article in light of MaterialScientists's observations, also 'per capita' is now being used instead of 'per person'. Kransky (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I am reluctant to challenge an obviously good-faith submission and an article someone has obviously worked hard on, but where is the evidence that "disparity in GDP between neighbouring countries" is a notable topic? Gatoclass (talk) 08:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is notable because the article captures the essence, with a strong empirical methodology, the faultlines of inequality across the world. It shows the global equivalents of 110th Street. But I cannot argue this point any further if people have different ideas of what is notable. Interest is in the brain of the beholder. Suffice to say, recent "Did you know" factoids include the pre-germination temperature of an Australian plant, the length of the Kunming-Singapore railway, copyright issues over the film Nude Nuns with Big Guns and Kate Middleton's dress designer. I hope my humble article can keep good company with these lofty topics. Kransky (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on April 25~~
~~Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle~~

... ~~that Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle was called both "biased" and "a rich and insightful read" that demonstrates how the rest of the world could learn from Israeli case?~~
Reviewed: The Sliced-Crosswise Only-On-Tuesday World ([1])
~~Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 02:37, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I believe this article is a violation of Mbz's WP:ARBPIA topic ban. One cannot adequately discuss Israel's "economic miracle" without reference to the conflict in which it took place. Mbz herself tacitly admits as much in this post to my talk page where she notes she had to leave out negative information because including it would violate her ban.
While I'm not going to report Mbz for a violation at WP:AE given that this article was probably written in good faith, I see no reason to reward her here for such a violation, especially given that the article by her own admission in one-sided due to the omission of negative information that would overtly violate it. Gatoclass (talk) 06:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Other circumstances notwithstanding, wikipedia isn't about "rewarding" anyone for anything but to make information more available. This nomination is interesting, within the guidelines of the Did You Know section, and submitted in good faith. Let's leave the ARBPIA conflict there and focus on Did You Know? here, this nomination has no outstanding problems that I can see. BelloWello (talk) 08:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That is a totally inappropriate verification when a user in good standing has already challenged this article as one-sided, a fact virtually conceded by the nominator herself. I trust that updaters will ignore it. Gatoclass (talk) 11:09, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's nice, apparently that "user in good standing" doesn't even know how to start an article talk page. I actually don't see the article as very one-sided at all. Also, the article as it stands now has no mention that jumps out at me regarding Israel/Palestine. Are you saying because he's banned from writing about the conflict he can't write about anything pertaining to Israel? I take offense to that, Israel as a nation is much more broad than just a little conflict with some rowdy neighbors. BelloWello (talk) 16:06, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bello, with respect, you don't seem to have much understanding of how the DYK process works. Articles are generally not promoted here until disputes have been resolved. Also, as a general rule it's discourteous to try and approve an article over the objections of another user who has substantial concerns about content. If you have an issue with my opinion, fine, let's discuss that, but please don't act as if you are entitled to simply ignore the views of others and approve articles regardless of their objections, that is contrary to our conventions and only likely to alienate other reviewers. Gatoclass (talk) 17:50, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: no ban violation--Mbz1 (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
User:2.0 has very little experience as an AE admin, but regardless, I very much doubt he would approve of you nominating the article here at DYK. It's quite clear from both the thread at my user page and at User:2.0's that you have created an article which deliberately omitted a substantial amount of information regarding the I-P conflict so you could skirt your ban, adding this article here with the expectation that I am somehow going to include that information for you, without even inquiring beforehand as to my willingness to do so, is presumptuous in the extreme. I have no intention of being coerced into fixing your articles by adding I-P conflict-related content so you can circumvent your ban. If this article is promoted, I will be taking this matter up at AE, or possibly even at Arbcom as I am growing very tired of the gamesmanship going on at this page. Gatoclass (talk) 11:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since Mbz wants to proceed with this nomination, I will ask for a ruling on this at AE tomorrow to try and resolve the matter. Gatoclass (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So, any resolution? - Dravecky (talk) 09:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Leaving the question about topic ban violation alone, I do not believe that a topic ban of an article's creator is listed as one of DYK criterion. Either it should be added to the list or the article should get promoted. Broccolo (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've agreed with Mbz not to go ahead with my AE challenge to the promotion of this article on the basis that Mbz has agreed to consult with me on any future nominations which may impinge upon her ARBPIA ban. In regards to this particular article, I have also agreed in line with Mbz's original request to add some missing content for the sake of balance. I will leave a message here in a day or two when hopefully we have reached an agreement on the content. Gatoclass (talk) 15:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The attempt to add to the article one single (quoted) sentence critical of the book and of Israel has attracted multiple people demanding to remove the quote and even to remove the article's link to that negative book review, a link that was put into the article by its creator Mbz1 although with a different quote. In the light of the ongoing dispute, I have tagged the article WP:POV. According to Ed Johnston, the article should also be tagged with the ARBPIA banner. This article is unsuitable for DYK as per "Articles and hooks that tend to promote one side of any ongoing conflict." The FT says that "The authors are so keen to trumpet the country’s successes that some passages read a bit like an “Invest in Israel” brochure." [2] The WaPo, noting that author Senor is "a professional investor in Israel" says the book sounds "like part of a publicity campaign. "[3] Haaretz says the book is "tarnished by a jarring, tub-thumping patriotism." DYK should not be gamed to publicize works of propaganda on Wikipedia's front page, nor is it likely that WP:BATTLEGROUND activity at this article is going to result in a neutral, high-quality article.betsythedevine (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is no single valid reason to decline DYK for this article. POV tag was added by a single user User:Betsythedevine against the consensus of at least 3 other editors excluding myself. It is a bad faith attempt to decline promotion of an absolutely valid article written in a natural language with a neutral hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A topical article and good DYK nomination. No objections to negative reviews (or negative comments in balanced reviews). However it is obvious from any search that the book is a hit and reviews overwhelmingly positive. The article reflects this, as it should. - BorisG (talk) 04:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
' If my policy-based concerns about this article are to be overridden, I would like to see it done by someone who is an experienced editor here at DYK but not a partisan either way in P/I disputes. This article now has 4 lines describing criticism to "balance" 8 paragraphs devoted to praise of the book. Is there really no POV problem with that? betsythedevine (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This book got 4.5 stars out of 108 reviews on Amazons. The same proportion applies to the professional reviews. The article represent this proportion perfectly. Please stop using DYK to push your own POV. Broccolo (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I said earlier, attempts to pass any article when there are obviously unresolved disputes are inappropriate and should be ignored. While a dispute over content has obviously broken out over this article, there is still time to resolve the issues so rejection may also be premature. Please can everyone get back to trying to resolve those issues on the article's talk page rather than bringing those disputes here. Gatoclass (talk) 10:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note Please note that both users who object the promotion are involved, both users, who support the promotion are not involved.User:Betsythedevine should not be allowed to use DYK nomination as a tool to push her POV. --Mbz1 (talk) 13:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
DYK shouldn't be used either to wave one's own preferred flag, as is occurring here, nor to disparage anyone else's, which this very one-sided paean to Israel also does. By "one-sided paean" I mean both the book, and to a lesser extent, the proposed hook with its single word of criticism compared to 18 words of praise for the book and for Israel itself. Re the previous notes saying another user shouldn't be allowed to use DYK to push her POV, this is all I can say to such breathtaking statements. – OhioStandard (talk) 21:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Minor structural problems and I would prefer more specificity in the hook, but overall this is a thorough and neutral article on a bestselling, arguably partisan book. The objections, which absolutely reek of gamesmanship, ownership mentality and battleground tactics, basically amount to "I object because I object, and nothing should be on DYK if anyone objects". Jalapenos do exist (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to reinforce Jalapenos with another neutral DYK reviewer's perspective, I too think this article is a neutral article about a controvercial book. The hook is also neutral. Everything is good to go.4meter4 (talk) 23:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's nice, I requested that people stop trying to impose their opinion here and resolve the outstanding issues at the article talk page, and come back to find an "icon war"! Disputes should be resolved by discussion, not by weight of numbers, that applies to to the project as a whole and it's a process which has particular relevance to this page in my opinion. There is still time I think to resolve the outstanding disputes amicably, which would be a far more desirable outcome, so once again, can we please return to the article talk page? Gatoclass (talk) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really see it that way Gatoclass. What I see is a neutral article which is being unfairly attacked by other editors who are trying to push a particular POV, thereby upsetting the already neutral balance of the article. Just because someone is griping about POV issues doesn't mean that a POV problem exsists. Further, I can't review this nom if I were to participate in the discussion at the article talk page because then my review would be considered biased. Since you are now an involved editor in the POV discussion you should recuse yourself from reviewing this DYK. However, I do see the wisdom in waiting to promote the article until the conflict is resolved.4meter4 (talk) 09:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can take part in a DYK discussion, "involved" or not. Regardless, I have added some more content to the article from new sources to provide some additional balance. Assuming there are no objections to it over the next 24 hours, I think it will probably be safe to promote. Gatoclass (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per above, "Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding" can review. BelloWello (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I find it amusing that the editors are opposed are involved the conflict in some form or another. The uninvolved editors all seem to be green-lighting this DYK. BelloWello (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the current version of this article, looks neutral enough and fine for DYK. -- Khazar (talk) 03:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I second that, looked slightly "dodgy" earlier. Issues have been ironed out.Planemadmatt (talk) 08:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article was pulled from the queue and placed back here for more discussion. The hook for this article has been challenged at WT:DYK (see this thread). I proposed an alternative hook there, if someone wants to go and verify that, this one can be restored to the queue. Gatoclass (talk) 14:31, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Actually, I might as well add the alt to this page:~~
ALT1: ... that according to the authors of Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle, Israel has more companies listed on the NASDAQ than any country except the United States? Gatoclass (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that the authors of Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle, explore major factors in Israel's start-up success, one of them compulsory military service and others that are perhaps even more surprising? I just think that would be a little hooky-er. But I also like Gato's hook, either is OK with me. Anyway, the article has been greatly improved by the efforts of diverse editors that any issues remaining are relatively minor, in my opinion. Unless others object, I think this is GTG. betsythedevine (talk) 16:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
POV tag gone from much-improved article, ready to go back to prep with ALT1 or ALT2 or with some other NPOV hook. DYK is for new, interesting, NPOV articles, and for such a difficult area I think mostly NPOV has to be enough so long as there is not active edit-warring destabilizing the text, which there is not. betsythedevine (talk) 16:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just putting my own sig on that endorsement I made May 6. I guess everything is a mess again and a battleground -- I am hoping for some experienced neutral admin like Khazar or 4meter4 to sort things out, so I would encourage others to do the same. betsythedevine (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have removed this from prep area one and restored it here, because article is not stable. A short while ago I reinstated the NPOV tag myself. – OhioStandard (talk) 13:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~I've removed the NPOV tag per apparent consensus of other editors, making this article once more good to go. See article talk page. -- Khazar (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
No, not "good to go". The tag was removed in violation of policy, and restoring it four hours after I placed it, on the basis that some editors had previously felt there was a consensus, was improper: See the NPOV template page, which says, among other things in its "when to remove this tag" section, that the tag should not be removed until "All editors involved in the article agree to remove it." The attempt to reach a stable version is ongoing at the talk page. Note timestamp of this post, relative to later ones that follow, btw. – OhioStandard (talk) 02:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OhioStandard, you do not have a veto on articles in the DYK queue, and if you remove it again I will restore it. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just as I thought this nightmare nomination was done with, User:Broccolo has decided to add some political soapboxing to it. This is a slap in the face to everyone who spent the last week trying to come up with a consensus version. I think we will probably need to sort this new issue out before the article is promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since the earlier consensus has now been pointlessly disrupted by an editor on each side of the conflict within the last six hours--one pushing for more aggressive criticism and one for more aggressive praise--I reluctantly agree with Gatoclass that this isn't stable enough for the main page. -- Khazar (talk) 21:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Gatoclass, it was not a slap in the face . I believed that Barron's review should be mention, and it was the only quote I was able to get without downloding it. I have no objections for the Gabriel's replacement. Broccolo (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article is solid despite the tick-tacky reservations of some battleground editors. Plot Spoiler (talk) 02:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
At this point I really don't see why this DYK shouldn't go forward - its an informative article that describes the book's arguments as well as some notable criticisms. I'm sure it could use some tweaking but I just don't see how DYK can require brand-new articles to be stable or perfectly neutral - wikipedia articles are almost always works in progress and my understanding was that a DYK article was only expected to be close to the start of this process - more than a stub, but not yet expected to be a good article. I would recommend a slight tweak to ALT1 however, which I'll call ALT3. GabrielF (talk) 03:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the authors of Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle, suggest explanations for why Israel has more companies listed on the NASDAQ than any country except the United States?
How many times do I have to repeat that it's inappropriate to try and approve articles over substantial objections from other users? The outstanding issues need to be resolved first, and hopefully they still can be with a little goodwill. We don't want to have edit wars continuing while an article is on the main page, premature approval is a recipe for such problems. We have a requirement that articles must be stable before they are featured, and we need to ensure that this article is reasonably stable before featuring it, so one more time - please take your differences to the article talk page and cease the pointless "icon warring" here. Gatoclass (talk) 09:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Gatoclass, I agree that the DYK articles should be stable, but at the same time I hope you will agree with me that a single user should not be allowed to take an article hostage. If that single user continues pushing his POV and edit warring, that user should be blocked and/or topic banned, and the article should get promoted. Main page articles should be stable, but so should be the users that edit those articles. For example I have agreed to go with consensus and so should that single user do. Broccolo (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on April 26~~
~~Pitkin County Courthouse~~

... that local miners in Aspen, Colorado, insisted that the statue of Lady Justice on the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured) not be blindfolded because they believed they could render impartial justice among themselves?
ALT1:... that serial killer Ted Bundy escaped from the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured) in Aspen, Colorado, by jumping out the window of the law library on the second story?

ALT2:... that due to the age of the Pitkin County Courthouse (pictured), in Aspen, Colorado, outside media coverage of Charlie Sheen's trial was limited to 16 seats allocated by lottery?

Reviewed: Diesel Emissions Reduction Act ([4])
~~Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I see a couple of areas where additional work appears to be required, both related to reliable sourcing. First, it doesn't seem appropriate to use a mystery novel (Baxter, 2007) as a reliable source in the lede even for the statement that someone "claims" that it's the oldest CO courthouse still used for its original purpose (lots of things claimed in fictional stories are not meant as real claims). Second, the article gives a great deal of architectural description of the building that does not seem to be attributable to any reliable source (i.e., refs 1 and 3 seem only to support a little of what is said). This strikes me as perhaps original research by the nominator, which should also be cut (unless architectural original research is somehow allowed). To be squeaky clean, some of the claims that are cited to elsewhere in WP (e.g., about Hunter Thompson) should also perhaps have references resident in the current article, but that strikes me as much less important, and perhaps (?) ignorable for DYK purposes. Otherwise looks good (adequate length, date, hooks supported, image free, etc.). Thanks/congrats to creator/nominator for all his hard work. Health Researcher (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, neither of those issues are related to the hook per se, but, if you insist ...
*Well, DYK Rule #4 is that the article must be "Within Policy", and one aspect is "reliable sources". And these are not trivial parts of your article. Health Researcher (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, but people usually restrict themselves to reviewing the hook unless the policy violation is really blatant. Daniel Case (talk) 22:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find that claim plausible enough to include. Colorado had only become a state 20 years earlier; not all of its present counties were established at that time and not all the counties then established had built their own courthouses. When creating the relevant Commons category, I kept an eye out for the age of most of the buildings depicted, and none of them in active use as a courthouse were as old as 1890.

Mystery novels or "plausibility" based on your own original research just don't seem like how WP mandates that its articles to be reliably sourced. I think you should eliminate the "oldest" claim from the article unless you can find a reliable source. Health Researcher (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again, see WP:NOTOR. I should perhaps put in a note elaborating on the extent to which this might be true, since we have articles on some of the other county courthouses since they've been listed on the Register as well (The Ouray County Courthouse is also listed, and two years older, but contrary to the uncited article text it doesn't appear in the photo to be in active governmental use. None of other three we have articles on are of that same vintage. Here the Hinsdale County courthouse in Lake City is claimed as the oldest courthouse in the state, but without any distinction as to whether it's still operating. But this says it is (on page 12), then doesn't give a date. This book cites the Park County courthouse in Fairplay as the oldest, giving an 1874 construction date ... but notes it's now used as a library. So I still find it plausible not necessarily that this is a fact but that people in Aspen might believe it to be so. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the county website says 1877. So this is not actually true. I will write the appropriate footnote. Daniel Case (talk) 05:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After further reflection I have removed that claim. One minimally distributed mystery novel, against two other demonstrably older courthouses still used as courthouses, makes it unencylopedic. Daniel Case (talk) 22:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My description is based on what's visible in the photo, which is a permissible exception to OR. See WP:OI. Daniel Case (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the WP:OI link does not seem to justify the claim that descriptions based on what's visible in the photo are OK, although your statement seems plausible (perhaps it appears elsewhere in WP?). But from my reading of WP:OI, it appears that all your facts must be substantiated by the fotos that you have cited to external sources, rather than to your own original image. Perhaps you could add a few clarifications in the notes to the article, explaining how the features are visible in the external photos? That will help ensure this article is a good example for others (wouldn't we want that for an article linked from the main page?). BTW, I'm not sure where my responsibilities as reviewer precisely end... I'm not sure if I'll be able to offer additional responses. Good luck. Health Researcher (talk) 22:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OI says, specifically, that "Original images created by a Wikipedian are not considered original research, so long as they do not illustrate or introduce unpublished ideas or arguments". Since I'm not making any interpretive statements regarding the architecture, no ideas or arguments, merely describing it using standard architectural terminology, I think I'm OK.
Also, consider that WP:NOTOR says, regarding fictional works, "[a] book, short story, film, or other work of fiction is a primary source for any article or topic regarding that work," I would argue analogously that a publicly visible work of art, fashion or architecture is a source for its own appearance. I also can't seem to find it at the moment but I distinctly recall that textual claims illustrated by an accompanying image need not be cited since the image makes it verifiable. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing the "oldest" claim (which seemed only to be by a fictional character). But I'm not sure that all of what you say about the building is evident from the pictures. For example, you mention "Sandstone belt courses." I don't see the word "sandstone" mentioned in either of the references (#1 and #2), and I don't see how it's obvious in the picture. And how is one supposed to know from the pictures or reference text that the steps are made of sandstone, as you claim a couple of paragraphs later? This building description section continues to strike me as shot through with original research. -- Health Researcher (talk) 23:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Because I'm in a reasonably good mood and because you've been so nice about it and it's really not something worth taking a stand on, I have fixed that, too.
However, I felt reasonably comfortable saying "sandstone" because that was obvious when I was actually in front of the building in August. As it turned out, the image resolution isn't high enough to make that clear, which is another reason I'm agreeing with you.
Nevertheless ... stone buildings in Aspen from that period (when the city began banning new commercial timber frame construction because of the fire risk), like the Wheeler Opera House, Brand Building and Collins Block, were almost always made of peachblow sandstone, which was quarried not too far outside of nearby Glenwood Springs and could easily be shipped to Aspen on no-longer-extant rail lines. In my experience writing about buildings, stone is usually quarried locally unless, say, someone wants Vermont marble or whatever and is willing to pay for it, in which case that's usually noted in descriptions of the building. Peachblow sandstone has a distinct light-orange/pinkish tone (see the picture of the Wheeler), and since the trim on the courthouse has it as well (more obvious in this picture), I figured that's what it was.
Had I felt like justifying it, I think it is also OK to say that a building material identified in a sourced section of one article as substance A, and then shown in a picture accompanying another article where less documentation was available but looking otherwise similar to substance A is is substance A. Daniel Case (talk) 04:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel, it strikes me that you are a skilled and enthusiastic/motivated architectural researcher. FWIW (myself not being an architect), your arguments above about the plausibility of sandstone/etc. strike me as persuasive if not compelling. I wonder if some of the Aspen-area newspapers would be interested in having you publish an architectural column? But from the standpoint of Wikipedia (WP), I'm concerned that you keep wanting to step over the line into doing original research. The context you gave above to justify the sandstone claims (e.g., context about your personal visit to the building and about nearby buildings and history of quarries) seems very compelling as original research, but equally irrelevant to WP, given WP's policy on no original research. Of course, now that you've eliminated the sandstone claim, all of this is moot.
But what is not moot is that there appear to me to be other facts in the article that are also unbacked by either reliable textual sources or by images from which they are readily extractable. For example, what is the backing for the claim that "A large modern extension containing the jail is located to the rear" (I see no inline footnote nor any mention of a jail in refs 1 and 2)? Similarly, what is the basis for stating that the Lady Justice is made of zinc (none of refs 1, 2, 4, or 10 seem to offer support)? It is not that I doubt that these claims are true, but remember that WP is not about truth (WP:TRUE), it's about verifiability (WP:V). I'm asserting these points not because I want to give you a hard time, but because it's my understanding that my job as a reviewer is to help make sure that the article adhere's to WP policy, including the no original research policy.
DoneI had thought the zinc claim to have been supported by the Resnik book; turns out it was in a different one and I found it and added it. I've decided, for now, to remove the bits about the extension (although it's visible in the Google maps and Bing images) and the interior. Daniel Case (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At this point I have the sense that we could go back and forth several times with me digging up more unverified claims, and you either removing them or substantiating them, or both. But I think a few more rounds of this process would risk being annoying to both of us - to you, because you might feel I was tormenting you, and to me because I didn't plan on such a large commitment when I volunteered to be a DYK reviewer. My opinion is that you should reread and carefully consider WP's policies about no original research, and then go through your building description with a fine-toothed comb, removing everything that cannot be properly sourced. I will be very surprised if you do not need to remove more items than what I've already mentioned. And then perhaps some other reviewer (or DYK administrator?) can offer an opinion about whether you're ready to go.
Not a problem. Normally when I write this kind of article (i.e., most of the articles I have wound up writing), I have the benefit of the nomination form (all of New York's and Connecticut's are available online), which is usually a good source for the stuff you can't see in the photo. Or nothing at all in the way of online documentation, certainly not enough to get these things to DYK level (most of New Jersey's NRHP nominations haven't been digitized by the NPS yet, so when I've written those they remain stubs). Aspen, being Aspen, presents (at least with the non-residential properties I've been doing lately ... houses in the city's West End will probably go a lot quicker and not make it here, when I get to them) a special case. The nomination documents are mostly not online; however there's this scattered stuff everywhere. Daniel Case (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't take this personally, I'm just doing my job as I understand it. And I suspect you could write very interesting columns for a local newspaper. Best -- Health Researcher (talk) 16:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Funny you should say that. I actually did once do something like that ... I had to write a "landmarks" feature for a weekly newspaper in Newburgh, New York near where I live (I'm flattered, but I think Aspen's two newspapers probably already have that covered, and I live two thousand miles away). Some of the buildings I wrote about turned out to be listed on the Register, as well as other local landmarks like the Balmville Tree. That's how I got into WP:NRHP.
I'm not taking this personally at all, believe me ... I saw your userpage so I totally understand where you're coming from (it's just that usually we don't go to this level of review here, but this would be unexceptional in a GA or FA nom). Daniel Case (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS Though you eliminated some of the claims about sandstone (perhaps all the ones that I mentioned), I see that there are still some claims elsewhere in the article about sandstone. -- Health Researcher (talk) 16:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done Took care of the rest. Daniel Case (talk) 13:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Jihadi tourism~~

~~... ~~that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and the Al-Quds Mosque Hamburg?~~~~
~~Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed Llangadfan and Dyfnant Forest Qrsdogg (talk) 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ~~... that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and Somali terrorist training sites? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

Per our discussion on Anna's talk page, ALT2:... that destinations for Jihadi tourism have included a war museum and Somali terrorist training sites? Qrsdogg (talk) 04:58, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked hook again. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Wikipedia is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Wikipedia's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much. – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Back to the original comment by Ohiostandrd. What Israel? This article tells nothing about Israel. What POV? There is no any discussion at article talk page. Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any significant POV problems in here as Ohio suggests, but I agree with Gato that the article feels a bit unfinished and unstable. Jihadi tourism seems to have a variety of different definitions in these sources, and the article could use some work to resolve what its primary subject is. It's an interesting topic, though, and I'll be interested to see what it can become. --Khazar (talk) 16:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Minneapolis wireless internet network~~

~~... that it's possible to receive a wireless internet signal almost anywhere in Minneapolis, except on the city's numerous lakes?~~
Reviewed: RideShare Delaware
~~Created by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed. Provides adequate information. Good citations. The lead could be more concise. No need for details on the bidding process, construction schedules, etc. in the lead. Or it's not clear to me why those details should be in the lead. Hybernator (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was just trying to summarize the contents of the article per WP:LEAD, but I do agree that it's a little daunting. I split it into two paragraphs and shortened the references to the bidding process and network setup. Better? BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 01:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, is that a thing we're doing now? Okay, will do. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 03:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 15:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on April 27~~
~~Mitch Henderson~~

~~... that new Princeton Tigers men's basketball head coach Mitch Henderson was co-captain of the 1997–98 Princeton Tigers who were the first Princeton basketball team to win 20 consecutive games?~~
Reviewed: Brand Building, Collins Block, Harley Baldwin
~~Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
The article looks fine, but I cannot find the claim of the hook refed in the article body. The only mentions of winning streaks that I see are both for 19 games. I'd also like to have this streak in perspective, is a 20 game streak uncommon in BB? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

During his junior year the team ended the regular season with a 19-game winning streak (reffed) and lost their first game in the NCAA tournament. The ref noted that 19 tied the school record. The following season, they again ended the season with a 19-game winning streak but then won their first NCAA game. In both cases the 19th win was reffed. Is there any doubt the team won 20 in a row and broke the record in his senior year?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, note that this one confirms 20 in a row. The question is whether it was a school record.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Swapped in better ref confirming school record.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rereading the NYTImes article. The record was already covered, but with an incorrect fact saying it was a 63-year-old record when it was a 73-year-old one.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on April 28~~
~~Villa Giulia (Palermo)~~

~~... that the Villa Giulia is home to the Genius of Palermo, a city symbol and laic patron of Palermo?~~
~~Created by User:CycloneGU (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
This article was first created as a ten word stub, speedily deleted, restored and moved to userspace. I have since helped put together a new page for it in userspace and it moved out on the 28th when I moved it to its permanent home. I have thus tagged it as a new article instead of an expansion.
The article is a bit short but barely makes the 1500 character requirement. I also have concerns over the referencing; all except one are to travel industry sites which are not really reliable. The final one is the site of the City of Palermo. All of those, and especially the travel sites can be expected to not be independant and to puff up their destinations, although to be fair I cannot actually read any of the text (it is in Italian). The article would benefit from some book sources to bolster the refs. SpinningSpark 12:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That is one issue I am having, finding other sites that can give more information to the article. Most of the information I can glean is in fact Italian; some of the text is a rough translation of the Italian Wikipedia version (noted on the talk page), in fact. I'm not the best at source-hunting; are there other sources you can help me with that might assist me and also the IP editor with adding content to the article? There's no doubt it's a notable garden in Palermo, there's just not a lot of information on it that I can find for an article. Kinda bugs me. CycloneGU (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I have some sources that Spinningspark found (thanks for the note BTW), but haven't got around to adding information to the page yet. Dealing with something on my end right now non-Wiki. I'll get to it, bear with me. =) CycloneGU (talk) 02:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Articles created/expanded on April 29~~
~~Lolita (opera)~~

~~... that Rodion Shchedrin's opera Lolita on his own libretto based on Nabokov's novel was performed in German in the presence of the composer and his wife (pictured)?~~
~~Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Lolita is currently in Prep 2. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's no longer a DYK article in Prep 2. —Bruce1ee^talk 12:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reviewed: #Pierre Koffmann, La Tante Claire, Pig's trotters --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only issue is that the image given isn't in the article. Might I suggest an alternative hook that does not require the image; ALT1: ... that although featured in the novel, the title character's death in Rodion Shchedrin's opera Lolita did not occur until the German premiere, after it had already been shown in Sweden and Russia? Miyagawa (talk) 20:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will take the pic to the opera, preferring the original, thinking that it is more important to know that he wrote the libretto himself than the general Sweden and Russia. Or perhaps:

ALT1:... that for the first performance in German in 2011, Rodion Shchedrin changed his opera Lolita on his own libretto based on Nabokov's novel, premiered in Swedish in 1994, to let Lolita die as in the novel? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The current image is also dark. Can't see the faces at thumb state, had to zoom in and enlarge to recognize the individuals. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's the one we have, drop it then, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It can be "brightened" or "enhanced" digitally though. - AnakngAraw (talk) 12:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Robert H. Paul~~

... that Pima County, Arizona Supervisors ordered Sheriff Robert H. Paul to bring his friend Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday back from Colorado after they killed four outlaw Cowboys, but he returned empty handed?
ALT1... that Sheriff Robert H. Paul, a friend of Wyatt Earp, was ordered by Pima County Supervisors to bring Earp back from Colorado after he and his posse killed four outlaw Cowboys?
~~Reviewed Khun Bedu here — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Created by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Length and hook check out. I'm turning to the Swahili rule as this was slightly outside the five-day window. This is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 05:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Articles created/expanded on April 30~~
~~IceMole~~

~~... that IceMole, an autonomous ice research probe, developed for exploring polar regions, glaciers and extra-terrestrial regions, is a student project in the Fachhochschule Aachen, Germany?~~
Comment: Fourth DYK for User:AshLin, three in line from before.
~~Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album. AshLin (talk) 04:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I could not verify the source from which the hook is based. It was in the german language. Any acceptance of this DYK would have to be done on a AGF basis. I think a more season reviewer should have a look at this. CrossTempleJay talk 22:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~I had used Google translate for this purpose and it had translated quite well into English. Perhaps this will help. AshLin (talk) 11:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~The link to the translation was good as it verified the claim in the hook. Now it is ready to go. CrossTempleJay talk 16:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Returned from prep area due to concerns discussed on talk page. Schwede66 05:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Amended hook vide talk page. Addressed concerns in main article as listed on talk page. Resubmitted. AshLin (talk) 17:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Concerns were adressed. I can't verify the hook because I don't know enough about scientific English. I don't know "probe" and think "trial" (in the article) might be "test". "Student project in"? at? of? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Additional concerns of User:Gerda Arendt addressed on user's talk page. May please reconsider. AshLin (talk) 05:33, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I see that "probe" is "Sonde", but also "investigation", and that trial is as ambigous. I have no way of knowing if probe will be understood as Sonde, therefore think that someone with more knowledge of academic terms should look at this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Wedding dress of Jacqueline Bouvier, Pink Chanel suit of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy~~

~~Pink Chanel suit of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis~~

... that Jackie Kennedy disliked her own wedding dress, but her pink Chanel suit (pictured) was a particular favorite of husband John F. Kennedy and she refused to take it off even when bloodied after his assassination?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Ericoides (talk) Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Date, length OK. Hook ref verified for first article; AGF for second. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One of the self-nominators needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed The Pride of the Family.--Nvvchar. 08:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Review checks out. Since Yoninah says the date, length, and hook check out, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please confirm that the picture from handbag.com actually came from the USGov, and thus it's good for use on MainPage. For "source" info on the WCommons page, instead of linking to the .jpg file, please link to the webpage (.html) where it explains the source. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 05:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have performed a web search for the image and found evidence suggesting this image was produced by a press photographer and not an employee of the U.S. Federal government. Please see Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 May 7#File:Onassis 1963 pink suit.jpg for further details and to comment on the evidence. --Allen3 ^talk 11:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Can we break this hook into two while we sort out the pic status?~~
~~John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline Bouvier at their wedding in 1953~~

ALT1:... that Jackie Kennedy disliked her own wedding dress (pictured)?
~~The remaining parts of the original hook can be used on MainPage on its own and without a pic (better with pic, but the pic must be legal). --PFHLai (talk) 13:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

How about one of these two pictures (or some sort of crop of the second one), which are most definitely taken by the official White House photographer, Cecil W. Stoughton, according to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library at http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/MeleWlXxvkCyqBLfIr_clw.aspx? OCNative (talk) 13:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Good catch, OCNative. How about this one: )? --PFHLai (talk) 14:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~May I suggest a couple of hooks for the pink suit, then (my preference is for ALT1)?~~

ALT1:... that Jackie Kennedy wore her pink Chanel suit (pictured) at the inauguration of President Lyndon B. Johnson despite its being stained with her husband's blood?

ALT2:... that the general public will not be able to see Jackie Kennedy's pink Chanel suit (pictured) until at least 2103? Ericoides (talk) 15:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The suggestions made to break up into two DYKs is Ok. ALT1 for the wedding dress and ALT2 for the pink Chanel suit sound fine.--Nvvchar. 01:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't we just keep the original hook with the new picture that PFHLai cropped from the pictures I found? OCNative (talk) 02:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We could, but it's a bit wordy and short hooks are invariably better. Having two separate hooks has the benefit of being able to show both outfits on the front page, too. Ericoides (talk) 06:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris~~

~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford her only major award for her work?~~
~~Created by TheRetroGuy (talk) and We hope (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 22:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Length, date and hook reference (ref7&11) are all in order. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc. We hope (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date check out. However, the sources don't say that the 1961 Grammy was "the only major award" she ever received. The source simply supports a claim that it is the only Grammy she ever received. To pass, I think the hook would need to be modified accordingly. After all, she has been awarded three stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And according to this source, she won the Downbeat magazine award for Top Singer of the Year in 1945. And according to this source, her 1953 hit "You Belong To me" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998. Cbl62 (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford her only Grammy Award for her work?~~
~~Changed to "her only Grammy Award" An alternative could be:~~

~~... that the 1960 Grammy Award winning comedy album Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris garnered U.S. singer Jo Stafford a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album?~~
Just a couple of more ideas. TheRetroGuy (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly both sources in the query seem to be from self-published books so may not be accurate. TheRetroGuy (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See this discussion. Stafford actually won the Downbeat award as a member of the Pied Pipers, while the song was inducted into the Hall of Fame rather than actually winning a Grammy as such. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Millingtonia~~

~~... that Millingtonia Avenue in Lucknow is named after Millingtonia hortensis, (pictured) which is the sole species of genus Millingtonia?~~
Reviewed: Ivy Benson
~~5x expanded by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Please check your etymology; it contains several errors ("hortens" is not Latin for "garden", for one, and the name of a family derives from its type genus, not vice versa). Remember to italicize scientific names. Ucucha 04:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have italicized scientific names. The derivation of the name is as per the reference cited. Regstuff (talk) 08:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~At World's Edge~~

~~... that Philippe Saisse's Grammy nominated album At World's Edge was dedicated to his father Maurice?~~
Reviewed: William Stones Ltd
~~Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Length and date verified. What makes this reference, which is used to verify the hook, a reliable source? Cunard (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Utilizing a press release for a basic fact, I believe is acceptable, in this case who the album was dedicated to. There are bold claims in the release that wouldn't be acceptable such as "represents one of Saisse’s most ambitious and adventurous solo projects to date", "keyboard wiz", and "distinguished career over the past 30 years" but basic facts like the fact that the album is dedicated to his father or that the album is his ninth solo release should be acceptable. I found this conversation Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources/Archive 15#Press Releases - RS? that supports my opinion. J04n(talk page) 12:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked the liner notes and the dedication is there, I attributed the fact to the liner notes. J04n(talk page) 12:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. While press releases can be used to verify basic facts, such basic facts are likely also covered by secondary reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 20:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~11th Parachute Battalion~~

~~... that during the Battle of Kos a British Parachute Company captured the airfield, despite there being 4,000 defenders?~~

~~Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Wedding dress of Lady Diana Spencer below.

length date and ref okay. - filelake shoe 15:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on May 1~~
~~True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)~~

~~... that the True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite) was found to be in illegal occupation of its own church headquarters?~~
~~Created by Ecjmartin (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Theoretical ecology~~

~~... that mathematical models developed in theoretical ecology show that complex food webs (pictured) tend to be unstable?~~
~~5x expanded by Eeb324 (talk), Epipelagic (talk). Nominated by Epipelagic (talk) at 23:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Lead and length check out. However, the hook is not directly cited to a source, and large swaths of the article appear to be uncited. Both of these should be resolved accordingly by adding citations where appropriate, and then this one will be good to go. In any case, good work on this to both of you, by the way; to have expanded such a broad topic in such a short period of time by so much truly deserves applause. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 05:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~The Pride of the Family~~

~~... that Fay Wray played the mother of Natalie Wood in a forgotten sitcom, The Pride of the Family, which aired on ABC from 1953 to 1954?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Length just makes it. Date and references also verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Reviewed: George Gibb~~
~~Frontera Corozal, Chiapas~~

~~... that the community of Frontera Corozal, Chiapas, Mexico, is the main access to the Maya site of Yaxchilan?~~
~~5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
REVIEWED Don't Scare the HareThelmadatter (talk) 23:33, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An a partial review of Battle for the Río San Juan de Nicaragua, Fortress of the Immaculate Conception, El Castillo (village), El Castillo (municipality), Rafaela HerreraThelmadatter (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Good to go, nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~"," added after Mexico --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim~~

... that during the invasion of Narvik on 9 April 1940, the Norwegian coast defense ship Norge fired 13 shells at the German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim at 600–800 meters (660–870 yd) range and missed?
~~5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed: Coaxial speakers--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion cheks out, offline sources AGF, good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Yohanan Danino~~

~~... that newly-appointed Commissioner of the Israel Police, Yohanan Danino, was involved in investigations against the Prime Minister, Finance Minister and Foreign Minister of Israel?~~
~~Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed John Wesley Snyder (Texas).

Hook length and article length OK. Article is new. Hook fact sourced in article.--DavidCane (talk) 23:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Black Versace dress of Elizabeth Hurley~~

... that "That Dress", worn by Elizabeth Hurley at the premiere of Four Weddings and a Funeral in 1994, has been voted the greatest dress of all time and is perhaps Gianni Versace's best-known creation?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Good to go, refs check out. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries~~

~~... that during the 2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries Musa Superior canvassed for votes through twitter and facebook~~
~~whiles living in the U.K. to win an election without ever meeting the electorates physically? Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Some problems with verifiability as mentioned at User talk:Crosstemplejay#2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries at DYK. --Beloved Freak 15:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with verifiability corrected.--CrossTempleJay (talk) 15:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I have not officially reviewed this for DYK, a review still needs to be done.--Beloved Freak 10:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A request was left at my talk page asking me to review as the nom has been here a while. Length and date anre fine but neither the article or reference say he never met voters physically. I would suggest

ALT1... that during the Ghanaian 2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries, candidate Musa Superior canvassed for votes through twitter and facebook whilst living in the UK?
~If ALT1 suits the nominator - Basement12 (T.C) 15:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~ALT1 is perfect. CrossTempleJay00:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Arteriovenous oxygen difference~~

~~... that you can improve your maximum arteriovenous oxygen difference through aerobic exercise?~~
~~Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
ALT1:... that you can improve your maximum a-vO₂ diff through aerobic exercise?

Re ALT1: the hook's the same, but wondering whether using the abbreviation rather than the full term is more catchy? --jjron (talk) 06:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: James Beeching (diff)

Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. ALT1 is definitely catchy. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~George Gibb~~

~~... that Sir George Gibb, head of the British government's former Road Board, was accused of having delayed the construction of new roads because he had been a railwayman?~~
~~Created by User:DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed: Yohanan Danino (diff)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Billy Hathorn (talk • contribs) 00:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC) (diff)[reply]

~~Teresa de Jesús (film)~~

~~... that Teresa de Jesús, an 8 hour television/DVD mini-series about St. Teresa of Ávila, won the 1985 Spanish TP de Oro for Best National Series?~~
~~Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

This is the 4th DYK nomination by the nominator.

- Article has sections that are mainly bulleted list instead of prose. I need a second opinion on this. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is acceptable. It is a valid and relevant information and the bullets serve to better orientation in the article.--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just got the message, and came to look at the concern. It seems that according to the 2nd opinion (Vejvančický), the current format is OK. That's what my common sense says too (without having reviewed policy/guidelines). If necessary it would be easy to reformat as paragraphs, but in my own preference as a reader I think bullet points is actually slightly better - it makes the structure clear. -- Health Researcher (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To DYK administrators: What happens next? If AnakngAraw doesn't add any more comments, will an admin eventually come along and, if he/she agrees with Vejvančický, give the give the article a OK-to-go? -- Health Researcher (talk) 23:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I got a second opinion, plus a third. IMHO, this is now good to go. In addition, may be unconventional but the section concerned is a "synopsis section" anyway. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on May 2~~
~~James William Middleton~~

~~... that James Middleton, the brother of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, baked 21 cakes for HELLO! magazine's 21st birthday?~~
~~Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Date, length, and hook check out. However, this is pending at AfD. If it survives, then it is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 05:29, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Multi-hook: churches in St Leonards-on-Sea~~

... that in St Leonards-on-Sea in East Sussex, Christ Church, St John's and St Peter's Anglican churches are Grade II* listed buildings, and there are Grade II-listed Baptist, Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox churches?
Reviewed: Waterside Inn (diff)

Comment: All five were started between 2nd and 6th May. If a picture is desired, this one of the Baptist church is probably the most attractive. I might add a sixth church to the hook on Saturday if I have a chance to write that article (it would be St Peter's Church, St Leonards-on-Sea). A little more expansion on Christ Church is coming as well. I have put a paragraph in each article (similar wording in each) which serves to verify (by means of the official list of listed buildings in Hastings and St Leonards-on-Sea) the fact that all of these are listed; alternatively the individual National Heritage List for England refs can be used. Subsequent comment: St Peter's Church, St Leonards-on-Sea (written 7th May) now added as a sixth article. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Battle of the Echinades (1427)~~

~~... that the Battle of the Echinades in 1427 was the last naval victory in the history of the Byzantine Empire?~~
~~Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim. Constantine ✍ 17:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Big Neighborhood~~

~~... that Steve Vai plays the sitar on "Moroccan Roll", a track from Mike Stern's Grammy nominated album Big Neighborhood?~~
Reviewed: No Minor Vices
~~Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~References are ok. Text at 1,887 characters long. Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~İnan Süver~~

~~... that Bono personally lobbied Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to investigate the treatment of imprisoned conscientious objector İnan Süver?~~
Reviewed Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud.
~~Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reference for hook is written by Bono himself, is that acceptable? -AnakngAraw (talk) 03:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
You raise a good point. I guess I'd argue that a primary source works in this case, as the existence of the source itself demonstrates the lobbying--in other words, if Bono writes that he's advocating on Suver's behalf, he's demonstrated that he's advocating for Erdogan to do this by the act of writing the post itself, even if he (improbably) never did anything else. Does that make sense? In any case, though, Bono's claim that he asked Erdogan about Suver is a modest one that I think he's unlikely to fabricate. Thanks for reviewing.-- Khazar (talk) 04:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What would you say to ALT1: ... that Bono personally lobbied for Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to investigate the treatment of imprisoned conscientious objector İnan Süver? This avoids any implication of face-to-face meeting, just in case we do suspect Bono's fabricating. -- Khazar (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Or ALT2: ... that Bono reported that he personally lobbied Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to investigate the treatment of imprisoned conscientious objector İnan Süver?~~
~~The article seems a bit short, can it still be expanded further. For the reference I need another editor to comment about it. - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Thanks for the response. I have the article at 1702 characters, which is 202 more than needed for DYK guidelines, right? -- Khazar (talk) 15:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~1703 to be exact. Alternative hooks, length and ref acceptable to me. - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Thanks! -- Khazar (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Charm Tong~~

~~... that in 2005, lobbyists attributed George W. Bush's increased "outspokenness" on Burmese human rights to a 50-minute meeting with Shan activist Charm Tong?~~
ALT1: ... that at the age of 17, activist Charm Tong addressed the United Nations Commission on Human Rights on the issue of systematic rape in her home of Shan State, Burma?
~~Reviewed Wadsworth Jarrell.~~
~~Created by Spc2011 (talk) and Khazar (talk). Nominated by Khazar (talk) at 20:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Length approved at 2,166 characters, references acceptable and verified. Good to go as DYK. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Let's go with the primary then. --Khazar (talk) 16:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~No Minor Vices~~

~~... that the 1948 comedy No Minor Vices was one of the only four films made by Dana Andrews for director Lewis Milestone?~~
Comment: for hook, see ref #3, page 49 [5]
Reviewed #The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus [6]
~~Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~good to go, interesting article J04n(talk page) 02:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Jean Perrot~~

~~... that Jean Perrot, co-founder of the journal Paléorient, excavated at Susa, Munhata and Beersheba?~~
Reviewed: Wedding dress of Grace Kelly
~~Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

- Article at 1,969 characters. However, online reference is linked to a "book cover". Unverifiable. Unless reference is an offline source? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Paleorient Journal website mentions Perrot founding it but I've strenghtened the sourcing with a direct mention here Société préhistorique française, p.3 (1982). Bulletin de la Société préhistorique française. Société préhistorique française. Retrieved 4 May 2011.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) that says about co-founder Bernard Vandermeersch "En 1974, il collabore avec J. Perrot à la création de l'« Association Paléo-rient » dont le but était de lancer la revue Paléorient ... En 1977, Paléorient est devenue une revue du CNRS" on page 3. I'm taking it that was the verification problem, not the famous excavations. Thanks! Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 04:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Wadsworth Jarrell~~

~~... that Black Arts Movement artist Wadsworth Jarrell utilizes a bricklayer's trowel to create a 3-D look in his Afrocentric paintings?~~
Reviewed: Albert Roux
~~Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Length, date good to go. Hook ref offline, accepted IGF. Very nice article. -- Khazar (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Gain before feedback~~

~~... that gain before feedback is reduced when using multiple microphones for live sound?~~
Reviewed: Women's National Emergency Legion ([7])
~~Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Good to go. --Eisfbnore ^talk 17:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Albert Roux~~

~~... that Michel and Albert Roux were the first chefs in the UK to gain three Michelin stars?~~
Reviewed: Todo a su Tiempo (Marc Anthony album)
~~5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Checks out! SarahStierch (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Gene Schoor~~

... that Gene Schoor, the author of more than forty "juvenile" sports biographies, was awarded $5000 damages in a suit against boxing champion Rocky Marciano for being punched by him? 63.17.84.226 (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: [[Template:Did you know nominations/Gene Schoor|Gene Schoor]]
~~Created/expanded by 63.17.49.31 (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Lead needs work to bring in line with MOS and the article needs categories. --Mike Cline (talk) 13:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~The article has categories, e.g., "Litigation."63.17.32.233 (talk) 07:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Can someone who knows what "MOS" means -- make the lead more MOSy?63.17.32.233 (talk) 08:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
MOS stands for Manual Of Style. gz³³ (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Issues resolved, article is good to go. Still could be improved with an Infobox, and there are a large number of other articles that cite Schoor's books that could be authorlinked to this article. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Thanks Mike Cline. I've added an infobox.63.17.74.194 (talk) 00:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Vere Bird, Jr.~~

... that Antiguan politician Vere Bird, Jr. became Minister of Science, Technology and Communications in 1996, despite an earlier report recommending that he never be allowed to hold public office again?
~~Created by Ironholds (talk) Self-nom at 20:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Reviewed Econfina Creek. Ironholds (talk) 20:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Well-written article without any problems: it's obviously ready to go. Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud~~

~~... that Princess Lolowah supports overturning the prohibition of women from driving in Saudi Arabia?~~
~~5x expanded by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

* According DYK Check, article has not been expanded x5. Probably needs just a little more--remember that only visible article text counts. -- Khazar (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded the article further. Thanks for reviewing. - Yk (talk | contrib) 23:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook all confirmed. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 23:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: always confirm manually when DYKcheck claims insufficient expansion. DYKcheck was wrong here. Expansion was fine before that additional expansion: 366 to 2134 characters is 5.8x. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Mandarax, will keep that in mind. Sorry for the false negative, Yk. -- Khazar (talk) 03:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Current nominations~~
~~Articles created/expanded on May 3~~
~~Tying of the iPhone to AT&T~~

... that when Apple initially released its iPhone in the U.S. on June 29, 2007, it was sold exclusively with AT&T, leading to Tying of the iPhone to AT&T which forced users to purchase AT&T service plans?

~~Created by Dsayles08. Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
This article was created (as explained on its talk page) for a school project. I'm currently working on merging it into existing articles and it may be deleted in a week or so. The article, and the blurb, seem somewhat POVish as far as being against restrictive policies. If you do use it, I've made some wording changes, primarily to correct U.S.-centricism. HereToHelp ^{(talk to me)} 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As noted on the talk page for this article, the iPhone page has been tagged as being too lengthy already. That, coupled with the fact that this article addresses a major telecommunication policy issue that has wide-reaching implications suggests that it should stand alone. Jaobar (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Charmaine Borg, Matthew Dubé, Mylène Freeman, Laurin Liu, Jamie Nicholls, Pierre-Luc Dusseault~~

... that five McGill University students—Charmaine Borg, Matthew Dubé, Mylène Freeman, Laurin Liu, and Jamie Nicholls—were elected to Parliament (Commons chamber pictured) in Canada's 2011 federal election but the youngest new MP is Université de Sherbrooke student Pierre-Luc Dusseault?
Reviewed: Gunner (dog) ([8]), Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics ([9]), James William Middleton ([10]), Robert H. Paul ([11]), Elizabethtown (Amtrak station) ([12])
Created by THAT IS A CAT IT IS (talk), Bearcat (talk), OCNative (talk), Lingust (talk), 216.191.221.69 (talk), Bouchecl (talk), and Hemerk (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pierre-Luc Dusseault is a bit short of 1500 bytes. Materialscientist (talk) 01:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre-Luc Dusseault article has been expanded. OCNative (talk) 05:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Soulmates (Parks and Recreation)~~

... that Tom Haverford revealed in "Soulmates", an episode of the NBC comedy Parks and Recreation, that he dreams of playing both the Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze roles in a remake of Point Break?
~~5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk) and Oodus (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Guild of St. Bernulphus [13] — Hun ter Kahn 21:08, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook verified, article ready and confirmed 5x per DYKcheck. Rcej (Robert) - talk 05:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Phonocentrism~~

~~... that Jacques Derrida believed that phonocentrism is a form of logocentrism?~~
~~5x expanded by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed Gaza marathon [14] Qrsdogg (talk) 23:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~... that, perhaps paradoxically, Plato defended his phonocentrism using the written word? -Freekee (talk) 04:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Sure, that might work too. Qrsdogg (talk) 05:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Mathieu Ravignat~~

... that Mathieu Ravignat defeated Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon for a seat in the Canadian House of Commons despite Cannon's party making a net gain of seats in the 2011 federal election?
Reviewed: Charles Bemies ([15])
~~Created by Þadius (talk), Saforrest (talk), OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~St Andrew's School, Pangbourne~~

~~... that at St Andrew's School, Pangbourne, Kate and Pippa Middleton were following in the footsteps of the spy writer John le Carré?~~
Reviewed: Barry John (diff)
~~Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Checks out. Intruiging enough to make me click Francium12 16:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~W. D. Twichell~~

~~... that W. D. Twichell surveyed more than 40 towns and 165 of the 254 counties in Texas and even launched the concert band in Amarillo?~~
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed Maryland Bridge~~
~~Refs checkout. Newly created on May 3. All looks good. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Dick Davies~~

~~... that Dick Davies holds the rare distinction of having played for four coaches who are now in the Basketball Hall of Fame?~~
Reviewed: John Sanford (author)
~~Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Size and date checked, but I don't see where the source says it is a rare distinction. --Muhandes (talk) 10:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
You're right, I apologize. As a knowledgeable basketball fan, I know that playing for four Hall of Fame coaches is incredibly rare, but you are correct in that the source doesn't explicitly state that. How about removing the word "rare" from the proposed hook? That way, it'd still check out. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The source is quite a mess, but it does look like it mentions only the distinct facts, so it should be enough. I'd use "who are members of the..." instead of "who are now now in the...", which sounds better to me. Also, how do you feel about supplying some context? (when born? when retired?) --Muhandes (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1: ... that basketball player Dick Davies played for his Hall of Fame father, Bob, before going on to win a gold medal at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Jrcla2 (talk) 18:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

~~for ALT1. --Muhandes (talk) 05:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~John Sanford (author)~~

~~... that John Sanford was called "perhaps the most outstanding neglected novelist"?~~
~~5x expanded by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Balai Pustaka. Comte0 (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5× expansion and date check out. I have to AGF that the source is correct since it is a book not linked to an internet copy. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google books yields [16]. "Perhaps" was added to the hook as a result. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 21:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~William Hamilton (cartoonist)~~

~~... that New Yorker cartoonist William Hamilton was married to the granddaughter of Brazilian dictator Getúlio Vargas?~~
~~Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~J. Paul Getty Trust~~

~~... that the J. Paul Getty Trust is the world's wealthiest art institution with an estimated endowment in April 2009 of $4.2 billion?~~
~~5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Reviewed: O'Donnell Heritage Museum ([17])~~
~~Date and length Hook reference 1 is accepted in good faith (AGF} sourced to The New York Times.--Nvvchar. 07:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Bernard Trottier~~

~~... that Conservative Party candidate Bernard Trottier won a seat in the 41st Canadian Parliament by defeating the incumbent Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada in the 2011 federal election?~~
Reviewed: Prometheus Radio Project v. FCC ([18])
~~Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Is there anything distinctive about this? I assume a lot of candidates won a seat in this manner.~~ Either way, I am declining this under the following clause of the DYK rules: "Articles and hooks featuring election candidates within 30 days of an election in which they are standing should be avoided, unless the hook is a "multi" which includes bolded links to new articles on all the main candidates." BelloWello (talk) 22:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I somehow missed that the incumbent was the leader of the party. Strike. 05:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

It's pretty distinctive that he defeated the incumbent party leader. That rule clearly exists to prevent Wikipedia influencing the election; that rule was not meant to apply after the election. OCNative (talk) 02:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion creating that rule (Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 59#Electioneering hooks), this diff, and this diff clearly show the intent was to prevent Wikipedia influencing an election. A DYK article after the election is fine. OCNative (talk) 03:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I quoted the rule in full, if you want the wording to be changed then take it up at the rule's discussion page. Unless it is changed, I think we should go with the wording in the rule. My interpretation of the rule, as it is currently worded, does not provide an exception for after the election, hence, this hook would not be allowed for nomination for at least 30 days after the election. BelloWello (talk) 03:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
He's not an "election candidate" if he won, he would be an MP-elect. I think that you're over-analyzing the rules, BelloWello. I agree with OCNative. The rule exists to block marketing of candidates. Royalbroil 04:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Then why does the rule not say 30 days previous to an election? The rule says 30 days, it doesn't specify before or after. If you think it should be only before, then discuss the change. BelloWello (talk) 04:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Royalbroil does make a good point that he's not a candidate anymore. Here's a precedent: Jonathan W. Perry was featured on DYK for 27 February 2011 eight days after winning an election. OCNative (talk) 05:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So the rules were broken once, doesn't mean we should keep breaking it! I personally have no issue with this specific nomination, but as long as we have rules, we should follow them. If you start a discussion to change the wording of the rule to say 30 days BEFORE an election, I will support it, but unless its changed, I doubt I will change my position. BelloWello (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I'd agree with Royalbroil and OCNative that we could just change the wording to MP-elect. Since he's no longer a candidate, this rule is no longer an issue. -- Khazar (talk) 06:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook fact is good, long enough, new enough. I suggest that we should change the wording of the rules, removing the unintended ambiguity. The election is over, hence there's no issue with DYK featuring this bio. Schwede66 05:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

~~Balai Pustaka~~

~~... that although Balai Pustaka published some of the most famous examples of Indonesian literature, it may soon be liquidated?~~
~~Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Assume good faith on external sources. Comte0 (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Gunner (dog) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics~~

~~... that 172 athletes will compete for four gold medals in table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics?~~
Reviewed: Palace Lodge ([19])
~~Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
- Article has 1,781 characters. However the article has redlinks, including See also portion. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of any rules against having redlinks in a DYK article (only in the hook). In any case the article that the redlink led to has now been created - Basement12 (T.C) 07:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such rule. Redlinks (in the article) are OK. Manxruler (talk) 07:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and refs check out, but perhaps the hook should say:
ALT1...that 172 athletes are scheduled to compete for four gold medals in table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics? OCNative (talk) 05:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT is fine by me - Basement12 (T.C) 11:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)~~

~~... that "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)" was intended to replace a purportedly racist song as the Florida State Song?~~
~~5x expanded by Horologium (talk). Self nom at 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed: Rabboni (steam tug)
ALT1: ... that the Florida State Anthem, "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)", was written by a Briton who had lived in Florida for only a dozen years? Horologium (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
reviewed by Gamaliel, who has lived in Florida longer than the author of the new song. (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Which hook? I personally prefer ALT1, especially since the original does not link to the purportedly racist song. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or perhaps ALT2: "... that "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)" was intended to replace a purportedly racist song as the Florida State Song?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neviusia dunthornei~~

~~... that the extinct rose family member Neviusia dunthornei is one of only three known Neviusia species?~~
~~Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~the links to abstracts for the first two refs appear not to be working. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Phaeacius
Odd the links for the abstracts seem to be working fine for me. The only one that appears to not be working (and I cant seem to get it to work) is the pubmed ID for DeVore et all (2004). Can you try again.--Kev min § 17:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PMID still not working but it has a direct link now so can let it slide WRT DYK. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Allegiance Council~~

~~... that the formation of the Allegiance Council changed the laws of succession in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?~~
~~Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Length, hook and date checks out. Manxruler (talk) 22:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Articles created/expanded on May 4~~
~~Routing and Remote Access Service~~

~~... that Routing and Remote Access Service (RRAS) makes it possible for a computer to function as a network router?~~
~~Created by ZKaiser (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 05:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
The article has a number of issues to resolve before it can be eligible for DYK. The article content appears to have been copied verbatim from a cited source; additionally, the article prose is quite insufficient, verified to be only 1004 characters by DYKcheck. Also, the citations are formatted improperly. Thx :-) Rcej (Robert) - talk 08:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Le Miracle des loups (1924 film), Cité de Carcassonne~~

~~... that numerous scenes of Le Miracle des loups were filmed at the Cité de Carcassonne (pictured)?~~
Reviewed: Armoured trains of Poland ([20])
~~Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Both articles are recent enough and long enough, and both have good hooks. There are no other problems with Cité de Carcassonne; however, Le Miracle des loups has an entire unsourced section and many citations to IMDB, which as a crowd-sourced website isn't reliable enough for our purposes. Nyttend (talk) 00:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the article was based on this source: Mordaunt Hall, Le Miracle des Loups (1924) NYTimes (1925).

Currently only two sentences are taken from IMDb:
It was also filmed in Château de Pierrefonds, Col de Porte, Isère, Le Sappey-en-Chartreuse, and in studio.

In Spain it was known as "El milagro de los lobos", in Italy as "Miracolo dei lupi".
~~Do you suggest to delete them? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 02:21, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~German destroyer Z12 Erich Giese~~

~~... that the German destroyer Erich Giese managed to torpedo the British destroyer HMS Jersey during the night of 6/7 December 1939 without ever being spotted?~~
~~5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed Agus Suhartono--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another great article. Date and length fine, offline ref accepted in good faith. Chamal ^T•C 14:45, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~The Bridge of Peace (Georgia)~~

~~The bridge lighting is live from 90 minutes before sunset until 90 minutes after sunrise~~

~~... that the bow-shaped pedestrian Bridge of Peace in Tbilisi over Kura River, equipped with motion sensors, lights up the interior walkway in reaction to pedestrian movement (pictured)?~~
~~Created by Tuscumbia (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Length is fine, and the article is well written and nicely illustrated. However - there are some minor issues: The text of the hook is not explicitly in the given source, which only says "The Bridge of Peace possesses an interactive light display system. 30,000 LEDs and 240 sensors installed within the structure convey specific messages, scrolled across the two parapets of the bridge every hour. The universal messages are relayed in Morse code and signify the human elements according to the Mendeleiev table". Also, the link to the 4th reference just take you to the Philips Lumileds home page, not the actual interview with the designer. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Steve Scully~~

... that for eight years Steve Scully, host of C-SPAN's Washington Journal, taught a cable TV distance learning class on media^{[disambiguation needed]} and politics through the University of Denver?
~~Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed: Arvid Olsson~~
Date, length and hook checks out. --Soman (talk) 17:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation needed in the hook first. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Noriaki Tsuchimoto~~

~~... that Japanese filmmaker Noriaki Tsuchimoto documented both the ravages of Minamata disease and Afghanistan before the Taliban?~~
Reviewed: Melba (film) ([21])
~~5x expanded by Michitaro (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~date length and hook cited good to go Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Knut Tvedt~~

~~... that Knut Tvedt had various positions in the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation for almost twenty-five years?~~
ALT1:... that despite Knut Tvedt's support in the board of the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation, Hans Jacob Ustvedt was appointed the corporation's director-general in 1962?
~~Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed. Appears okay. Nominator needs to review one himself. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 15:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry, forgot about that, now done at Gain before feedback --Eisfbnore ^talk 17:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to go. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Melba (film)~~

~~... that Lewis Milestone's 1953 musical biographical drama Melba, about the life of soprano Nellie Melba, was the feature film debut of Metropolitan Opera star Patrice Munsel?~~
Comment: Reviewed #White House Press Secretary [22] Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Date, length and hook reference verified. However, of the four citations offered to prove the hook reference, only the last two specifically state this is her screen debut. The first two should be removed as citations for that. Michitaro (talk) 17:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As those cites contain other non-related but pertinant information for our readers, I have simply moved them to another spot eithin the lede. Thanks. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Met Ball~~

~~... that the Met Ball is considered to be the fashion industry's premier annual red carpet event?~~
Reviewed: Brand Building, Collins Block, Harley Baldwin
~~Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
N.B. I had reviewed this triple article hook and only nominated two articles (Mitch Henderson on 4/27 and Reasons (Earth, Wind & Fire song) on 4/25).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe the cite which refers to the Met Ball being the fashion industry's (which is a world wide organisation) major red carpet event, can be correctly referenced here. As this is taken from the New York Fashion magazine, could the article be taken as a more localised meaning? The fact that they are the "Oscars of the East Coast" must refer to the fact that they are therefore lesser to the Oscars and are therefore not the fashion industry's premier annual event. But the article is long enough, well cited and correctly dated. Just needs the hook tweaking. FruitMonkey (talk) 22:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That sentence is surrounded by national and international citations which have similar effect.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair call, I'm probably being too picky looking for the exacrt phrase "Fashion industry's premier annual red carpet event?"; cites together back up the quote. Good to go. FruitMonkey (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~KOI-428b~~

~~... that extrasolar planet KOI-428b was confirmed as a planet after astronomers compiled the equivalent to one night of observations on the planet using a 1.93m telescope?~~
~~Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Wiki-Watch --Starstriker7^(Talk) 04:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and hook reference 1 and all verified. Nice article. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Maryland Bridge~~

~~... that a corner post shaped as a cairn was preserved in 1970 in the third construction of the Maryland Bridge in Winnipeg, Canada?~~
~~Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: William Hamilton (cartoonist)
I believe the title is misleading. It may imply the MD near Washington, D.C. Shouldn't you put Winnipeg or Canada after "Maryland Bridge". There could be more on the significance of this bridge? Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I tried to rewrite the hook. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think "so-named" should be removed. That suggests the name is under debate or contentious. So, for example, ALT1 ... that a corner post shaped as a cairn has been preserved in the third construction of the Maryland Bridge in Winnipeg, Canada?Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~America's Most Hated Family in Crisis~~

~~... that the creation of the documentary film America's Most Hated Family in Crisis was prompted by an email?~~
~~5x expanded by Doh5678 (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Saints Peter and Paul Church, Kraków
The hook checks out, but unfortunately, according to DYKcheck, the article is currently at 3,965 characters, and was at 1,032 before editing began on May 4. That means it has not been 5x expanded. (A 5x expansion, by my math, would have to be 5,160 characters.) Unless I'm mistaken? — Hun ter Kahn 00:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on May 5~~
~~Multicast encryption~~

~~... that multicast encryption is what enables a node on a network to send one unit of data to a special set of receivers?~~
~~Created by Trerjrdr (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 05:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Karl Toman~~

~~... that the Austrian former communist leader Karl Toman was appointed mayor of Eichgraben by German authorities in 1938?~~
~~Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

I reviewed Cummins School. --Soman (talk) 01:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length are fine. AGF on German language sources. (I ran the hook fact through Google Translate and it looked fine.) Qrsdogg (talk) 04:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti~~

~~... that Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti has been described as Osama bin Laden's "favorite courier and right-hand man"?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 17:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Article is being considered for deletion. Wait for decision. Mgrē@sŏn 20:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Voted to keep. Hook confirmed. Date and length are fine. All systems GO! Mgrē@sŏn 18:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Bicentennial Park (Hillsboro)~~

~~... that Bicentennial Park in Hillsboro, Oregon, partly commemorates the city's centennial?~~
Reviewed: The Art of Video Games ([23])
~~Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Article length and date fine, offline refs taken AGF. Chamal ^T•C 08:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Kaycee Nicole~~

~~... that the perpetrator of the Kaycee Nicole hoax was investigated by the FBI but charges were never filed because the financial loss was not large enough?~~
Comment: Ideally, would like to get this mainpaged on 20 May, the 10-year anniversary of the day the hoax was revealed
~~5x expanded by Fluffernutter (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Expansion, date, source and hook check out. J04n(talk page) 03:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Ravensworth~~

~~... that legendary English cricketer Ian Botham is often referred to as "The Squire of Ravensworth?~~
~~5x expanded by Farrtj (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Farrtj (talk) 23:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Sorry, but you started expanding the article on 12 April 2011. DYK is only for articles that were created or expanded within the last 5 days. Even if we started counting from 28 April, you're still short of a 5x expansion (844 characters on 27th, now only 2783, you need 4220). Chamal ^T•C 08:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Gaza Marathon~~

~~... that nine runners completed the full course of the inaugural Gaza Marathon, which was won by Nader al-Masri?~~
Reviewed: The Bridge of Peace (Georgia) ([24])
~~Created by Tzu Zha Men (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Date, length, and hook all check out fine. Excellent article. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~The Art of Video Games~~

~~... that the Smithsonian Institute will be holding an exhibit, The Art of Video Games in 2012, featuring 80 video games deemed as art as selected by experts and the public?~~
~~5x expanded by Masem (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Sorry, expansion/creation was months ago, and the expansion has to be within five days of the nomination, and the expansion also has to be within that short time frame. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Siam Cup~~

~~... that the Siam Cup was hidden in an unknown place to prevent it being melted down by the Nazis and was only rediscovered in 1947?~~
~~Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 19:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed: Agus Suhartono The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1: that the Siam Cup despite being created in 1920, remained in Guernsey and was not presented until 1935?
The hooks check out, but there's a problem. The article is about the competition, but 50% of it is about the trophy itself, and there are only 3 lines on the competition (with just one of them talking about the games). There should be much more information on the competition, especially if it's the second oldest rugby tropghy. Why not include some history? Chamal ^T•C 08:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK does not require articles to be fully developed, and as new articles they rarely would be. It is not really appropriate to review for completleness of coverage at DYK, that is for other venues to do (GAN, FAC, PR). SpinningSpark 08:19, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

True enough, but my problem is that an article about a competition mentions next to nothing about the competition itself. I'm not asking for a GA, I'd just like to see at least one small paragraph on its history (or at least a bit more than "Jersey are the most successful island in the Siam cup with 53 wins compared to Guernsey's 15 wins with there only being 1 draw"). The competition has been going for almost a century; surely a few sentences on that history is not too much to ask? The way the article is now, we might as well rename it to "Siam Cup trophy". Chamal ^T•C 09:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's better now. Length, date and ref all good. Chamal ^T•C 14:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Agus Suhartono~~

~~... that Agus Suhartono, nominated by Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, was considered the most deserving candidate for commander-in-chief of the Indonesian military by the leader of the opposition?~~
~~Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 17:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Reviewed: Viktor Herou Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Viktor Herou~~

~~... that Viktor Herou (pictured), a member of the first Swedish communist parliamentary group, later became a Centre Party municipal politician?~~
~~Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

I reviewed Steve Scully. --Soman (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length okay. Foreign language sources accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Rod Thornton~~

~~... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who borrowed a copy of an Al-Qaeda training manual from his University library?~~
~~Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Just reviewed St Andrew's School, Pangbourne. Not sure how to show the 'diff' - but I did! Francium12 16:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~length and date OK, references check out, but the hook fact is not is not in the article. i.e. "al-Queada training manual" is not mentioned. SpinningSpark 08:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Doh! Just added and provided a ref. On further reading he downloaded it for his dissertation but it was in the library! Change to ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who downloaded an Al-Quaeda training manual available from his University library? Francium12 09:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian ref says "Thornton writes that the al-Qaida manual which led to the arrests is now stocked in the university's library" which at least implies that it was not in the library at the time of arrest, and in any event does not entirely verify the hook. I will take it on good faith if you say the offline Thornton ref is more definite on this point, but if the Guardian is accurate then the hook is not. You also need to decide if your spelling is going to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaida SpinningSpark 10:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Sanmenxia Dam~~

~~... that China has arrested people for criticizing the controversial Sanmenxia Dam (pictured) on the Yellow River?~~
ALT1... that 1.8 billion metric tons of sediment was accumulated behind China's Sanmenxia Dam (pictured) in the 18 months after it closed the Yellow River in 1958?

Reviewed: HMS Sainfoin (F183)
~~Created/self-nom --NortyNort (Holla) 13:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Comment: Nothing remarkable about the PRC arresting people for such criticism; focus more on the technical aspects. Include information about location in western Henan. Also, don't simply use "China" in a political context when you actually are referring to the PRC. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 14:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it isn't remarkable. I usually focus on design but thought the controversy was more interesting in this case. I haven't seen an arrest like this related to a dam. Usually it is violent protesters. The amount of trapped sediment could be an interesting alternate. I also try to keep hooks short and feel PRC (now piped) is implied along with trying to not have too many location identifiers. Other thoughts are welcome, thanks for yours. I will work on an ALT.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Modern pentathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics~~

~~... that plans to use laser guns for modern pentathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics were dropped after a vote of the sport's governing body?~~
Reviewed: Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe ([25])
~~Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Date, length, hook as well as all stated facts check out well. Ready to go!-- CrossTempleJay talk 14:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe~~

~~... that Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe had a virtual monopoly on the building of new Catholic churches from 1868 until 1882?~~
Reviewed article 2011 National Democratic Party presidential primaries (diff)--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Length, date are fine but the reference only refers to him having a monopoly in Utrecht and says he didn't move there until 1872. I think the years in the hook need altering and it should state where he had the monopoly - Basement12 (T.C) 13:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe had a virtual monopoly in Utrecht on the building of new Catholic churches from 1872 until 1882?
I'd reorder the wording of ALT1 slightly

ALT2... that Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe had a virtual monopoly on the building of new Catholic churches in Utrecht from 1872 until 1882?
I've added an inline citation to the article directly after the fact from the hook so either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go - Basement12 (T.C) 13:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~2011 National Democratic Party presidential primaries~~

... that prior to the 2011 National Democratic Party presidential primaries, Nana Konadu Agyeman Rawlings, former first lady of Ghana, was the first person to pick up a nomination form to contest the leadership of the current ruling party?
~~Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Date, length and hook reference verified.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~POLYGON experiment~~

... that the POLYGON experiment, led by Leonid Brekhovskikh during the 1970s, was the first experiment to establish the existence of so-called "mesocale eddies", giving rise to the "mesoscale revolution" in oceanography?
~~Created by Headbomb (talk). Self nom at 07:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: 2010 New Patriotic Party Presidential Primaries [26]

Good to go. —James ^{(Talk • Contribs)} • 5:31pm • 07:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I just realized that tomorrow was the birthdate of Leonid Brekhovskikh, he would have been 94. It would be nice to have it featured on the main page for the occasion! It's a bit short notice, but why not? Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 14:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Khun Bedu~~

... that to protest the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum, imprisoned democracy activist Khun Bedu organized Loikaw youth to release balloons and small rafts with anti-referendum slogans attached?
Reviewed:Jørgen Rytterager and George Edmund Butler
~~Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~The fact the he organized youth to specifically make rafts is not substantiated in the reference. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Fair enough. It is cited specifically in the Amnesty source, so I'll add that as an inline to that sentence as well. Or we could just move to an ALT1: ... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was arrested following protests in which Loikaw youth released balloons and small rafts with slogans attached opposing the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? What do you think? I think I still prefer the original, but am good with either. Thanks for reviewing. -- Khazar (talk) 05:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
These are fine, but I think his 35 year prison term is what's really notable here and merits inclusion. That fact points out more than any other the nature of his protest. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. What would you say to ALT2: "... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was given a thirty-seven year prison sentence following protests in which Loikaw youth released balloons and small rafts with slogans opposing the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? -- Khazar (talk) 11:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Too many characters. Contrast the simplicity of his actions to the severity of his sentence. How about, "... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was sentenced to 37 years in prison for organizing Loikaw youth to release balloons and rafts in protest of the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Looks good to me. Thanks.~~ -- Khazar (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, looking at that again, I'm not sure that hook's quite accurate; Khun Bedu appears to have been held responsible for all of the protest offenses (including spreading VCDs hostile to the regime and vandalizing govt. property). What would you say to "... that Khun Bedu was sentenced to 37 years in prison for offenses including organizing Loikaw youth to release balloons and rafts in protest of the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum?" i've got that at 189 chars. --Khazar (talk) 18:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Snarum Station, Jørgen Rytterager~~

~~... that farmer Jørgen Rytterager was appointed station master of Snarum Station in 1872?~~
~~Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Operation Mallard [27] (ec)

Date and length are fine, offline foreign language hook accepted in good faith. But with only one source for an average-seeming Norweigan station master, does this meet the WP:GNG? -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is well written, but I agree that the notability might be a bit thin here. Does he stick out from thousands(?) of other station masters? Also, is the hook eye-catching in any way? Geschichte (talk) 09:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do see your points. But Rytterager was not only a station master, he was also a public servant and one of the wealthiest farmers in Buskerud (if not whole Norway) at the time. Also, the source cited in the article is not the only source on this individual, it's just the only source that I've had in my disposition. That journal article also cited many other sources on Rytterager, but I didn't want cite them in the article, as I hadn't seen them myself. I would say, that the fact that the reliable and serious periodical Arkivmagasinet (issued by the National Archival Services of Norway) devoted three pages to an article solely on this station master does make him worthy of an article. Redirecting the article on Rytterager to Snarum Station could be a good compromise, though. As for the hook fact, it was the best that I was able to find. IMHO, It does seem a bit peculiar that a farmer at the decline of his career managed to become a station master at a new railway line. That happening was also the title of the journal article, so I think somebody else would agree. :) --Eisfbnore ^talk 14:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Eisfborne, it's a well-written article, so I do hope it gets to stay without a redirect. The Arkivmagasinet source you name seems like an excellent start, but my understanding of the notability guidelines is that a second source wholly or partially dedicated to Rytterager will need to go into the article to demonstrate notability. I'm less up on the GNG than many others here, though, so what I'll do is leave my question mark up and let this catch the attention of a more experienced editor than I to make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see the peculiarity a bit better now. But when you say "he was also a public servant", what kind of servant? Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~2010 New Patriotic Party Presidential Primaries~~

~~... that in the 2010 New Patriotic Party Presidential Primaries, Nana Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo won 77.92% of total votes cast to be elected as flag bearer for the NPP?~~
~~Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Everything checks out. I don't see any problem with this. Maybe clarify/rephrase what "elected as flag bearer" means, as many people would probably expect something like "elected as the leader of the NPP", but I leave that up to the author. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 07:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Lumír Ondřej Hanuš~~

~~... that leading cannabinoid neurotransmitters researcher Lumír Ondřej Hanuš was growing cannabis on two large fields in Olomouc in 1970s for medical purposes?~~
~~Created by Cimmerian praetor (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

- Refs, length and hook graded ok. However, there are several redlinks for names in the article. Either supply pages for the redlinks or remove the redlinks. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redlinks deleted as requested, it should be good to go now. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 07:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The statement above with regards to redlinks is incorrect. Redlinks aren't viewed as negative when they're in the article. We're only not supposed to have redlinks in the actual hooks. Further, you can't approve your own nomination. Manxruler (talk) 07:11, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~National Security Council (Saudi Arabia)~~

~~... that former longtime Saudi Ambassador to the United States Prince Bandar bin Sultan became the first Secretary General of the Saudi National Security Council?~~
~~Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

- the hook is unreferenced in the body of the article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It now is. Thanks for reviewing. - Yk (talk | contrib) 00:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Judged as good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base~~

... that in just over two years in World War II, Régiment de Chasse 01/030 Normandie - Niémen destroyed 273 enemy aircraft and received the awards from both the French Légion d’Honneur and the Soviet Order of the Red Banner?
~~Created by DeltaQuad (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Bolded the topic for this one and wikilinked. Also supplied the "?" for the hook. However, there are two redlinks at intro of article. Either remove the redlinks or provide the pages for those two please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect. There is no rule against redlinks in the nominated article. Manxruler (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry the bold was just from the article itself not on purpose...and there is not a redlink in the nom, why is the article required not to have them? (If it is a rule) -- DQ (t) (e) 11:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bolding of the nominated article is required. What is not correct is AnakngAraw's claim that redlinks in the article itself are undesirable. Redlinks don't belong in the hook, but in the article they're all good. Manxruler (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then are we good to go? -- DQ (t) (e) 17:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. I don't understand the hook (which I have just copy-edited for typos). How can an air base destroy 273 aircraft? Airbases don't usually destroy aircraft. And this airbase wasn't even in existence in 1943-45. Who actually shot down the 273 aircraft, and what does it have to do with the base? Manxruler (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just reread my source (since I did this six months ago), it was the unit that helped with the closing of the base. ajusted entry. -- DQ (t) (e) 19:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I saw that you had been working on this article for quite some time in your user space, which is of course perfectly well. The problem here is that the hook you are promoting, is not at all about this air base, but about the Normandie-Niemen squadron, which already has its own article. There's no way this hook can be used. Manxruler (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Articles created/expanded on May 6~~
~~Elephant hunting in Kenya~~

... that in the 1970s, the wife of Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta and other high-level government people were reportedly involved in a scandal and implicated in an ivory-smuggling ring (Pictured) which transported tusks out of the country in the state private airliner?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Added an img.--Nvvchar. 16:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Pedreña.--Nvvchar. 17:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Guild of St. Bernulphus~~

~~... that the Guild of St. Bernulphus, a guild trade union of church Gothic Revival architecture, was operated more like a jovial feasting fraternity than a scholarly society?~~
~~Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 20:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Ghana National Fire Service (diff)--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date and length OK, offline ref accepted in good faith. — Hun ter Kahn 21:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Ghana National Fire Service~~

~~... that In March, 2010 it was announced that the Ghana National Fire Service was to change its name to Ghana National Fire and Rescue Service?~~
~~Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed [(SO) Serval]

Good to go. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:01, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Young Harris~~

~~... that between 1886 and 1894, Athens, Georgia Judge Young L. G. Harris donated more than $50,000 to start Young Harris College, but he never set foot on the campus?~~
Reviewed: Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti
~~Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Offline reference accepted in good faith. Ready to go.-- CrossTempleJay talk 22:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Abbud al-Zumar~~

... that Abbud al-Zumar, founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad which merged into al-Qaeda under his successor Ayman al-Zawahiri in 1998, provided the ammunition which assassinated President Anwar Sadat on 6 October 1981?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length check out, offline parts of the hook accepted IGF. Nice piece. -- Khazar (talk) 16:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~St Paul's Church, Hooton~~

~~... that St Paul's Church in Hooton has been described as "unquestionably one of the most spectacular churches of Cheshire"?~~
Reviewed: Open top buses in Weston-super-Mare
~~5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~15× expansion, offline source AGF'd. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 01:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Open top buses in Weston-super-Mare~~

~~... that some criminals were seen on television riding around Weston-super-Mare on an open-top bus?~~
~~Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed Brabham BT3~~
~~Date, length, hook OK. Offline ref AGF.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Blanche Thebom~~

~~... that in 1957, at the pinnacle of the Cold War, mezzo-soprano Blanche Thebom became the first American to perform at the Bolshoi Theatre in Moscow?~~
~~5x expanded by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I reviewed Aman Sveti Stefan ([28]).4meter4 (talk) 12:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and ref ok, interesting fact, big expansion. Good work. Chamal ^T•C 14:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~LIV (SO) Serval~~

~~... that the German Light Infantry Vehicle for Special Operations is built on the chassis of the Mercedes-Benz G-Class?~~
~~5x expanded by Chamal N (talk). Self nom at 07:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed Siam Cup ([29]), Ravensworth ([30]), Bicentennial Park (Hillsboro) ([31]). Hoping to do a bit more. Chamal ^T•C 10:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A good article. length, date are good. However, I could not get any reference backing the hook, I tried looking it up from the BMW G-Series but it did not give any information about the LIV SO. Could a reference be got for the hook?-- CrossTempleJay talk 10:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook fact is mentioned in the very first sentence of the Features and characteristics section, and the inline cite at the end of that sentence (Jane's article) says "The LIV (SO) is based on the chassis and running gear of the Mercedes-Benz 270 CDI G-Class". Chamal ^T•C 10:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly well. Then all is well with the nomination. Good to go. CrossTempleJay talk 10:32, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~75 (album)~~

~~... that most of 75 was recorded on Joe Zawinul's 75th birthday and about two months before he died?~~
Reviewed: Kaycee Nicole ([32])
~~5x expanded by J04n (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Good to go. An interesting coincidence. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 07:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~KOI-428~~

~~... that, at the time of its discovery, KOI-428 was the largest and most evolved star known to host a transiting planet?~~
~~Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Women in Laos --Starstriker7^(Talk) 03:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All in good standing. Hook verified from the source. Ready to go. CrossTempleJay talk 10:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Women in Northern Cyprus~~

~~Four female folk dancers in Northern Cyprus adorned with gold accessories and pink-colored costumes~~

~~... that among female Northern Cypriots (pictured) in 2010, only seven had ever held high-level positions in the Parliament of Northern Cyprus?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

I reviewed the article: Lumír Ondřej Hanuš - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: that since 2010, there had only been seven women in Northern Cyprus (pictured) who became high-level members of the Parliament of Northern Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Somebody marked the source for the hook as unreliable besides I could not find a confirmation in the source that supports the hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Suggesting ALT 2: ... that Gönül Başaran Erönen is the first female justice of the Supreme Court in Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Women in Laos~~

~~... that in Lao Buddhism, the women of Laos (pictured) are taught that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men?~~
~~Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~~~Length, hook, and source all check out. All that needs to be done now is a review of another article. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]~~
(edit conflict) A have a few issues with this article. [source 1] looks like a blog and there are two sections (Marriage/Sexuality) that have only one sentence. --Guerillero | My Talk 03:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed the article: Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you have a point. I didn't catch it as a blog earlier. However, the two sections that have only one sentence don't seem to conflict with DYK requirements; the overall article size still checks out, as do the newness and hook items. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 03:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was able to address the ref issue for the hook by replacing it with this book. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced the blog ref with the Lonely Planet book from which it was based on or copied from. Found it from googlebooks. Ref is now valid source for whole article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty then. With that issue resolved, this looks good to go for real. --Starstriker7^(Talk) 05:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Articles created/expanded on May 7~~
~~Osama bin Laden's house in Khartoum~~

... that while in Sudan, the late Osama bin Laden lived in a pink stucco and brick house in Khartoum and a one-storey mud house overlooking the Blue Nile in Soba, where he spent many weekends with his family ?
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed: Background of the Spanish Civil War
~~National Museum of Sudan~~

...that the National Museum of Sudan (pictured an image on display in the museum) in Khartoum contains two Egyptian temples which were originally built by Hatshepsut and Tuthmosis III but were relocated because of the flooding caused by Lake Nasser?
~~5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Img of a statue displayed in the museum added.--Nvvchar. 16:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: WASP-43b
~~Pedreña~~

~~... that the famous golfer Seve Ballesteros, who recently died, hailed from Pedreña, located across the bay from Santander in Cantabria?~~
~~Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Paul Erik (talk). Self nom at 11:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~the hook, date, length, references all check out.--Nvvchar. 17:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Robin Yearwood
~~Randy Roth~~

~~... that Randy Roth faked a boating accident in order to cover up the murder of his fourth wife?~~
~~Created by Beeblebrox (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Haven't reviewed another nom yet but this is only my third DYK nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Distributed Backbone~~

~~... that a Distributed Backbone is a backbone network that consists of a number of connectivity devices connected to a series of central connectivity devices?~~
~~Created by Bencst13 (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Good work so far, but this article is too short, as it is at 1,089 characters. There's still time for you to expand it, though. Please get the article's prose sections up to 1,500 characters (headers and citations do not count toward the characters). Keep at it, and this will qualify when you add more info! OCNative (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~FCC v. AT&T Inc.~~

~~... that in FCC v. AT&T Inc. the U.S. Supreme Court struck a blow to corporate personhood and held that corporations cannot claim exempt status from Freedom of Information Act requests?~~
~~5x expanded by Qbkspit (talk). Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]~~
Date, size and content are all fine. The problem is that I am not seeing the hook content in the implications section. The phrase "corporate personhood", for example, does not appear there. I am sure that it is because I am unfamiliar with the legal issues and language involved - but so will be most readers. If the hook summarizes the article, as the (unreferenced) lead implies, I strongly suggest that such a simplified, concise and referenced sentence (as the current hook) is added to the implications. Lastly, link Freedom of Information Act in the hook, in the article main body and add the abbreviation to the first main body use. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Requested edits were made. Jaobar (talk) 17:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Metallica v. Napster, Inc.~~

~~... that Metallica v. Napster, Inc. was the first case that involved an artist suing a P2P software company?~~
~~Created by Bcca15 (talk) and Cookeri6 (talk). Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
I reformatted the submission and added creation notations & credits for Bcca15 and Cookeri6, and nomination credit for Jaobar. Please verify that these are correct. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 03:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All checks out. Did some tidying, and de-orphaned it and added some categories, so it's all good to go now. Amazed this didn't already have an article since it had such a significant impact on peer to peer file sharing. Good job to all those involved! Miyagawa (talk) 13:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Narcotics Control Board (Ghana)~~

... that since 2007, the Narcotics Control Board of Ghana, through its collaboration with the Operation West Bridge project, has intercepted illicit drugs worth £214 million at the Kotoka International Airport?
~~Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Reviewed Young Harris [[33]]~~
Date, length, and hook all check out. The only thing that concerns me in the article is a major unsourced claim under successes that NACOB has reduced the drug trade in the country since its creation. This statement should be either sourced or deleted, I think. -- Khazar (talk) 01:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~The statement in question has been sourced now. CrossTempleJay12:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Thanks! I remain a little concerned that this article seems primarily constructed from NACOB press releases that have been reprinted by Ghanaian press. This gives it a slightly advert-like tone, though I know this isn't your intent. (Successes are credited to NACOB leadership, challenges to the flaws of other countries, and we only hear about the successes in detail). It's clearly a worthwhile and notable topic--I'm just not sure if it's DYK-ready. Since this is less my area of expertise, I'm going to bow out on this one and let another editor make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 13:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Background of the Spanish Civil War~~

~~... that the background of the Spanish Civil War includes a period called the "black two years" between 1934 and 1936?~~
Reviewed: Black Versace dress of Elizabeth Hurley ([34])
~~Created by User:Grandiose (talk). Self nom at 16:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Partially created from Spanish Civil War, but with perhaps 75% new material (and certainly over the length requirements).Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Good job, although a little too much reliance on the Preston book in my view.. .♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~(Agreed. I have another book to supplement it soon. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]~~
~~Siamak Pourzand~~

~~... that a daughter of Iranian dissident Siamak Pourzand described his suicide as "a way for him to finally find freedom"?~~
~~2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Khazar and Roozbeh. Self nom at 16:29, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
ALT1: ... that the journalism of Siamak Pourzand ranged from film criticism for Cahiers du cinéma to coverage of the "Chain Murders" of Iranian dissidents?
Reviewed: Abbud al-Zumar, David Tyler (UK), Larry Geraty

Note: This article had to be blanked due to copyright violation (almost the entire article was a cut-and-paste job from PEN America's website). The article thus went from ~3600 chars of invalid text to ~6000 chars of valid, sourced text. I realize this isn't quite x2, but since the previous text had to be deleted as copyright vio, my understanding is that its characters don't "count"; the article actually went from close to 0 chars to 6000 chars. So I think it's eligible under DYK, but if I'm wrong, please feel free to remove. -- Khazar (talk) 18:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~David Tyler (UK)~~

~~... that British TV and radio comedy producer and director David Tyler is a member of the Labour Party?~~
~~Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Date, length, hook all check out. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you wish, here is an alternative hook: "... that the producer and director of Bigipedia, David Tyler, is a member of the Labour Party?" ISD (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that this is the better hook. --Khazar (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Larry Geraty~~

~~... that archeologist Larry Geraty who served as President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research was a graduate of Pacific Union College (pictured)?~~
Reviewed: third self nom, not required

Comment: Can provide other hooks if this one isn't good. Just moved out of userspace a few minutes ago. BelloWello (talk) 04:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Created by BelloWello (talk), DonaldRichardSands (talk). Self nom at 04:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Length, date, and hook sources all check out, but I do have a few small reservations I'd like to see addressed. The first, and most important, is that the hook is rather weak. The main fact here appears to be that he graduated from Pacific Union College, which simply isn't hook-y for me. I wonder if the variety of countries he lived in as a child would be a better hook, or perhaps a major archaeological accomplishment, or something that could be considered a surprising fact of genuine interest. (Unless there's something unusual about Pacific Union that's not immediately apparent.)
~~Second, the awards section feels rather POV; the quotations from the award citations could be more clearly sourced.~~
~~Third, I've removed a section without any content. This can be added in later if this content is found.~~
~~Hope this helps! -- Khazar (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
The problem is the counties he lived in aren't individually sourced to secondary sources. (I wanted to do that too...) Some of them are, the rest are from a list that wasn't from a source independent of the subject. I liked the PUC hook because (i) there was an image for it, (ii) it was reliably sourced and (iii) PUC is a small school with less than 30 graduates in their alumni category on wikipedia, so it did seem somewhat distinctive.

I'll work on the awards, do you have anything more specific you want addressed? I did cut down on quite a few of them...

The section you removed was a lvl 3 header which contained two lvl 4 headers with content, so it might not readily appear to so, but it did have content in two sub headers. BelloWello (talk) 19:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and sorry about the header--I wasn't looking closely enough. Generally DYK rules discourage those sorts of section tags, which is the reason I jumped the gun. Why don't we just make those L4 headers into L3s? As for the hook, why not mention that he went to an Adventist high school, college, and theological seminary for his education? Or even better, that he supported ordination of women in the Adventist church? That gives it a bit more of an angle to pull in readers and appears clearly-sourced.
In the awards, all I meant was that the line between the awards' descriptions of him and the article's description of him appears unclear at times, and that you might make this distinction more clearly. Thanks for the quick response! -- Khazar (talk) 19:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll make the suggested change with the headers. How about one of these for the hook?

ALT1 ... that archeologist Larry Geraty who served as President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research was born to missionary parents is a product of Adventist Education including Pacific Union College (pictured) and Adventist Theological Seminary?

ALT2 ... that Larry Geraty a former President of La Sierra University and the American Schools of Oriental Research and an alumnus of Pacific Union College (pictured) and the Adventist Theological Seminary was noted for his support of women's ordination in the Adventist Church?
BelloWello (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, both these hooks are too long (200 chars max). I know you want to get that picture in there, but since it's not a picture of Gerarty himself, one of his digs, etc., I'm not sure it's quite necessary in this case; the pic's claim to relevance is very weak. What would you say to ALT3 ...that archeologist Larry Geraty was also noted for his support of women's ordination in the Adventist Church? It's clear, concise, and interesting. -- Khazar (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to include the picture if possible. How about ALT4: ... that archaeologist Larry Geraty, an alumnus of Pacific Union College (pictured), was also noted for supporting women's ordination in the Adventist Church? Would that be acceptable? BelloWello (talk) 19:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your patience and quick responses in addressing my concerns. I'd say that hook's good to go. The only caveat I'd add is that I'm still not 100% sold on the relevance of the picture, so if the editor assembling the template decides not to use it, the phrase about Geraty being a PUC alumnus should also be cut from the hook. But I'm happy to leave that decision to the assembling editor. -- Khazar (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Manihot walkerae~~

~~... that crosses of cassava with the endangered Walker's Manihot possess tubers that experience delayed postharvest physiological deterioration?~~
~~Created by TDogg310 (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Date, length fine, hook to subscription-database article AGF. Well-put together article. -- Khazar (talk) 02:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Articles created/expanded on May 8~~
~~Beckington Castle~~

~~... that although Beckington Castle was built in the early 17th century it was not called a castle until 1839?~~
Reviewed: List of San Marino national football team results ([35])
~~Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 17:53, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Date and length check out, offline reference accepted in good faith. Benea (talk) 18:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Uncle Yo~~

~~... that comedian Uncle Yo specializes in performing at geek events such as anime conventions?~~
~~Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Note that the article was created in the sandbox and only now moved to the mainspace, so the (mainspace) creation date is indeed May 8. It is my understanding that this fulfills "creation" criteria.

Reviewed #FCC v. AT&T Inc.
~~Head Standard~~

~~One of a pair of Head Standard skis, with Cubco bindings.~~

~~... that the success of the Head Standard, the first modern downhill ski design, propelled Head to be the largest ski company in the world by the 1960s?~~
~~Created by Maury Markowitz= (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.~~

~~List of San Marino national football team results~~

~~... that San Marino has only ever won a single international football match?~~
Reviewed: Metallica v. Napster, Inc.
~~Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
The hook fact is not cited in the lead. New article with just enough text to qualify (as the content of the table doesn't count).— Rod ^talk 17:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added citation - sorry thought I already had. Miyagawa (talk) 17:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Robin Yearwood~~
...that Antiguan politician Robin Yearwood has held the same seat in the Antiguan Parliament continuously since 1976? Ironholds (talk) 09:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Zayar Thaw, Generation Wave.
~~OK, but why are there no url links?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Because they're sources I dug up from private, subscription-only archives. Ironholds (talk) 13:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~WASP-43b~~

~~... that extrasolar planet WASP-43b was, at the time of its discovery, the most closely-orbiting Hot Jupiter known?~~
~~Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Reviewed: Theoretical ecology --Starstriker7^(Talk) 05:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Zayar Thaw, Generation Wave~~

~~... that imprisoned Burmese singer Zayar Thaw's group Generation Wave distributed anti-government hip-hop and copies of banned movies, including Rambo IV?~~
Reviewed: Narcotics Control Board (Ghana), Manihot walkerae, and Great Anatolia Party
~~Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Ironholds (talk)~~
~~Great Anatolia Party~~

~~... that logo of the Great Anatolia Party of Turkey was consisted from a perforated drum and a leaping jaguar in the drum hole?~~
~~Created by Logom (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

While an apparently notable subject, and sufficient in length and date, both the hook and article will need substantial grammatical cleanup to be ready for the front page. I'm sorry I can't help out more with this, Logom. I started in on the article but at times had difficulty determining the intention of the sentences. Since the given sources are in Turkish, I couldn't go to those either. Perhaps another bilingual editor could help this one? -- Khazar (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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~~May 14 (FA Cup Final)~~
~~1926 FA Cup Final~~

~~... that after the 1926 FA Cup Final, Manchester City F.C. became the first team to reach the final and suffer relegation in the same season?~~
~~5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

Reviewed Ron Hextall ([36])
Looks ready to go. History2007 (talk) 20:47, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for this year's FA Cup Final on May 14th? Miyagawa (talk) 18:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and moved. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~June 2 (Feast of the Ascension)~~
~~Ascension of Jesus in Christian art~~

~~... that the depictions of the Ascension of Jesus in Christian art (pictured) are often divided into an upper (heavenly) and lower (earthly) part?~~
Reviewed: 1926 FA Cup Final
~~Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Comment: Here is the G-book link for the hook (is also in the article). History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~

~~Comment: will be appropriate for Feast of the Ascension, June 2, 2011. History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~June 6 (Queensland Day)~~
~~Anzac Avenue~~

~~... that Anzac Avenue is the longest World War I memorial road in Queensland?~~
~~Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ([37])~~
~~5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
All checks out - ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good indeed. I just think it's a shame you couldn't use it on the main page today as it's ANZAC day. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That was the intention, but you know, procrastination ;). Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 22:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Please be encouraged to get a good photo to go with the hook. You still have 4 weeks. Lots of time. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~June 12 (Pentecost)~~
~~Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus~~

~~... that the Holy Ghost ipomopsis found in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in New Mexico is predicted to become extinct in 50 years?~~
~~Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
~~Length, date, and hook reference (3) all check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:41, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]~~
Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 How many times do I have to repeat that it's inappropriate to try and approve articles over substantial objections from other users? The outstanding issues need to be resolved first, and hopefully they still can be with a little goodwill. We don't want to have edit wars continuing while an article is on the main page, premature approval is a recipe for such problems. We have a requirement that articles must be stable before they are featured, and we need to ensure that this article is reasonably stable before featuring it, so one more time - please take your differences to the article talk page and cease the pointless "icon warring" here. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 09:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
+:[[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]], I agree that the DYK articles should be stable, but at the same time I hope you will agree with me that a '''single''' user should not be allowed to take an article hostage. If that '''single''' user continues pushing his POV and edit warring, that user should be blocked and/or topic banned, and the article should get promoted. Main page articles should be stable, but so should be the users that edit those articles. For example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Start-up_Nation:_The_Story_of_Israel%27s_Economic_Miracle&diff=prev&oldid=427985411 I have agreed to go with consensus] and so should that '''single''' user do. [[User:ברוקולי|Broccolo]] ([[User talk:ברוקולי|talk]]) 18:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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