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Articles created/expanded on January 27
Tourism in Åland
- ... that a major attraction for tourists in Åland is the islands' having more sunshine hours per year than anywhere else in Scandinavia?
- Reviewed: The Best American Magazine Writing 2007 ([1])
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Three of the four sources go to Visit Aland, which is pretty much a primary source, since it is "Åland's official tourist and member organisation". And the final source is just an Excel spreadsheet with statistics on it. While i'm sure that the subject is notable, I am pretty much considering the article to be unreferenced at this point. If you wish for this DYK to go through, please find actual reliable sources on the subject. SilverserenC 01:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Interesting argument, although that page comes from the government of the Åland Islands - and the final source comes from the official statistics office of the government of the Åland Islands. The day we start regarding government statistics as unreliable is the day I retire from Wikipedia :D Arctic Night 02:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think i'm going to need someone else to give a second opinion on this then, since, yes, it is from a government website, but i'm not sure what the rules are for an article sourced entirely to primary sources. Primary sources are allowed, obviously, but I thought there had to also be secondary coverage involved. I'll ask on the DYK talk page for some answers on that. SilverserenC 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Since we're now discarding sources published by the Government of the Åland Islands as 'unreliable', I have gone ahead and added some secondary sources to the article - in fact, almost all of the statements on the article now have a secondary source supporting it. These include books, non-government web sites, etc. Arctic Night 17:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've removed my review symbol. Can someone else please review this? SilverserenC 06:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I should add that the original reviewer's concerns regarding secondary sourcing have now been addressed, as far as I can tell. Everything else seems OK - just waiting on another reviewer to take a look. Arctic Night 11:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I would argue that the second source is not independent of the subject itself as a tourism organization. Can you find a source that is not somehow related to Åland, its government, or its tourist industry to support the claim? Interestingly enough, a quick google search of "+Åland sunshine" gives only the government/tourism website results, plus a bunch of other sites parroting the same claims word-for-word, and a bunch of unrelated news articles and sites, which makes me wonder if it's not just a publicity gimmick. A meteorological source would be nice. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 10:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with Muk. While the government tourism board is a valid source for describing the sunshine as an attraction to the island, the exact claim that the islands "having more sunshine hours per year than anywhere else in Scandinavia" is actually a strong scientific claim that should have been derived from some scientific climate study that would have been published in a reliable source like a journal press list. Someone had to have measured and determined this fact. Who? AgneCheese/Wine 22:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Tourism in Abkhazia
- ... that despite it being illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government, the territory's Black Sea beaches continue to attract tourists?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Great article, interesting--but that hook, I think, needs better sourcing. This article has 1992-1993 numbers (just over 200,000) and the claim that tourism now is almost back to normal. This article does make the 300,000 claim, but that's hardly a reliable source (and it's in terrible English, also not a confidence booster). I don't think that the 300,000 number is verifiably certain at all, and would propose tweaking or changing the hook. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Besides, it would be nice for the hook to clarify that it is illegal under the laws of Georgia (a country that has no de facto authority in Abkhazia) for foreigners to enter the country, not under the laws of Abkhazia. Ucucha 02:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I've added 'technically', although since de jure Georgia does have sovereignty over Abkhazia, I don't think any further elaboration is necessary. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the governments of Abkhazia and Russia would disagree that it is even "technically" illegal; they'll say that Georgia has no business at all prohibiting people from Abkhazia. Besides, it's not illegal even under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia, as long as the Georgian government is informed. Ucucha 03:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Heh, let's not turn this into a debate over who has the right to control Abkhazia! I've clarified the wording of the hook to leave no doubt that it's under Georgian law under certain circumstances. Arctic Night 03:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't want to debate that either; my point is that such a debate is possible and bypassing the issue is not neutral. I have no problems with the new wording of the hook. Ucucha 12:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am not sure the hook is actually correct. As far as I know entering Abkhazia is not illegal under Georgian law, as Abkhazia is considered a part of Georgia. But what is illegal is interacting with the Abkhaz government, i.e. getting your passport stamped. It is perfectly possible and as far as I know legal to cross from Georgia into Abkhazia, as long as you avoid a passport stamp. There is no Georgian passport control at the Gali border. In fact, crossing from Russia into Abkhazia and then into Georgia is not possible, as you would illegaly enter Georgia, i.e. without any Georgian passport control. Pantherskin (talk) 13:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- "The Georgian Interior Ministry proclaimed "visiting Abkhazia and South Ossetia without the knowledge of the Georgian authorities" as a criminal offense in late August." - this is directly from the source cited in the article. As far as I can see, it is illegal for foreigners to enter Abkhazia under Georgian law. Arctic Night 19:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, the source cited quite clearly states that Georgia has prohibited visits to either of the two breakaway states without the knowledge of the Georgian government. Unless you (Pantherskin) have a better source, we'll have to stick with that. Ucucha 20:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
(←) *Thanks Ucucha - is anybody willing to actually put a tick on this one now? It's been sitting here at the nomination stage for quite a while... Arctic Night 15:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- The state-owned RIA Novosti is probably the worst possible source for such claims about Georgian legislation, give the history of misinformation and propaganda when it comes to Georgia. See for example [3] for a description of what the actual rules are, or similar the travel warning of the UK [4]. There are unfortunately some other issues too - the warning of increased crime for example is more than seven years old, as the source was published in 2003, even before the Rose Revolution. Not clear at all from the article that this is historical information. Pantherskin (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- "...history of misinformation and propaganda..." - really? 'Misinformation and propaganda' are fairly strong words. In fact, the source you gave ([5]) actually supports the hook - thank you! It states exactly what the article does. Arctic Night 22:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- As a matter of fact, I think Pantherskin may well be right. His sources state that Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. The hook fact (that it is illegal for anyone to enter Abkhazia without permission from the Georgian government) is different, and seems less plausible to me. Ucucha 23:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- [6], Quote: "The original version of this article wrongly stated that Georgian law does not allow foreigners to enter South Ossetia or Abkhazia." Pantherskin (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- And here is a translation of the law [7]. Probably an official translation as it is published on the webpage of the Georgian parliament. See clause 4. Pantherskin (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Pantherskin - again, that source supports the hook - "a jail term of up to four years for foreigners who enter the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia using checkpoints that are not controlled by Georgian authorities." Arctic Night 18:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I give up. What the law and the other sources say is quite obviously different from what the hook says. It seems that this is just another example of how misguided the whole Wikicup is, if factual accuracy is less important than getting this article on the main page. Pantherskin (talk) 19:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hook: illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government. Claimed to prove the hook is wrong: Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. I...honestly utterly fail to see the difference between these two statements, and/or how the second proves the first wrong? It appears to me that the first is just a simple way of saying the second - since it's illegal to enter Abkhazia from Russia, since that would involve entering without passing through a Georgian checkpoint, therefore it's illegal to enter Abkhazia without the Georgian government being aware, yes? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- No. Notifying is not the same as crossing a border and showing a passport. And once you have entered Georgia, say via Tbilisi airport you can visit Abkhazia and the Georgian government will not be aware of this visit (because you neither required to notify them nor is there a passport control in Gali/Zugdidi). Pantherskin (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I see the point...in that case, this should probably get a
until a revised hook is provided (assuming the article doesn't make the same claim as well...). - The Bushranger One ping only 19:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I see the point...in that case, this should probably get a
Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle)
- ... that the main protagonist from the manga series Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Syaoran, ends up becoming one of the series' main antagonists?
Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Verified creation date (formerly a redirect page.) Length is good. Suggested alt:
- ALT1:... that Syaoran, the main protagonist in the Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle manga series ends up becoming one of the main antagonists?
- The reference for the character's being an antagonist is in Japanese, which I'm willing to accept in good faith, but there is no direct inline citation to support the claim of his initial status as a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 09:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply. I was on a wikibreak. He is referred as one of the protagonists by Clamp in creation as well as in most reception sources such as this one and this one. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Syaoran and Sakura were chosen to be the series' protagonist because their Cardcaptor Sakura counterparts had a "happy ending", but Clamp pointed they would have to go throughout the series to get their "own happy ending"."→ This sentence has no inline reference, and other than the lead, is the only mention of his being a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 00:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- The sentence is actually referenced by number 2. But does his role has to be mentioned in every part from the article?Tintor2 (talk) 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- The citation in question is following the next sentence. The rules for DYK need that the sentences that state the fact(s) mentioned in the hook must specifically have an inline citation. So the sentence I mentioned in my previous comment specifically needs a citation. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 12:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- The sentence is actually referenced by number 2. But does his role has to be mentioned in every part from the article?Tintor2 (talk) 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Syaoran and Sakura were chosen to be the series' protagonist because their Cardcaptor Sakura counterparts had a "happy ending", but Clamp pointed they would have to go throughout the series to get their "own happy ending"."→ This sentence has no inline reference, and other than the lead, is the only mention of his being a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 00:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply. I was on a wikibreak. He is referred as one of the protagonists by Clamp in creation as well as in most reception sources such as this one and this one. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 30
Sigur Plateau
- ... that the Sigur Plateau is a wildlife corridor which is important for maintaining the genetic diversity of elephants (pictured) and tigers in South India?
Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I started review of Sunny South (clipper).-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The abbreviated form of citations needs to be expanded so that the reader can identify them.--Wetman (talk) 05:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Moved full reference to its first mention, so
- 16. ^R. Sundararaju, p. 3 and other R. Sundararaju references are easily identified with:
- 4. ^R. Sundararaju, I.F.S., Chairman of the experts committee, Principal Chief Conservator of Forests & Chief Wildlife Warden, (2009-10-13), REPORT OF THE EXPERT COMMITTEE FORMED IN PURSUANCE OF THE DIRECTION OF THE HON'BLE HIGH COURT IN W.P.NO.10098/2008, 2762 & 2839 of 2009., Chennai: Tamil Nadu Forest Department, p. 6, retrieved 2011-1-28
- Repitition of full reference for diferent pages of same source is not necessary.
- Just go to first citation, clik link and scroll to page indicated.
- Otherwise I misunderstood meaning of 'expanded' above and specific clarification needed-Marcus334 (Talk) 01:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Sunny South (clipper)
- X ... that the Sunny South (also called Emanuela or Manuela), captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
Created by Djembayz (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sunny South (clipper) was not linked in hook. I fixed it
- First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Original hook, at 232 characters, is over the 200 limit. ALT1 is 198. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
- Thanks for help-- corrections are needed. Should have waited till the next day and looked it over! Chappelle is not available online but is a standard book. If you can work the name "Manuela" into the DYK, it seems to be the second most commonly found form.
- Corrected version: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest slaver sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade? Djembayz (talk) 04:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Commented on Chautla Hacienda. I have less than 5 DYK; still getting up to speed on all this.
There are several paragraphs/lines which lack citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Point one: I have added citations, but is a citation really required for every line? Most articles don't have this. However, even with added citations, the above DYK can't be fact-checked without print.
- An explanation on the first DYK: I adjusted the claim for speed to "fastest slaver" as a direct quote from Chappelle rather than "fastest ship," even though it's pretty clear that many people would have considered Sunny South the fastest ship in port. First, when clipper captains had a really good run, they had a tendency to come ashore exclaiming that they had the "fastest ship in the world." Second, Sunny South was not only a clipper, it was the only full-sized ship built by a famous racing yacht designer, whose reputation no doubt preceded him. Third, successful slavers were known for out-running other ships. Sunny South, given its smell and unclear location over the years, was probably not on its first slaving voyage when caught. (I would need archival resources to definitively prove this, however). And fourth, a sailing ship with no engine that can outrun a steam-powered Royal Navy ship doing 11 1/2 knots performs at a such an unusual level that on any given day, there's a darned good chance that it is the fastest [sailing] ship in port.
- Point two: I feel this particular ship merits a DYK as it shows up in the written work of 3 writers who are still known today: Speke, London, and Dickens. The following DYK can be fact-checked without print:
- ALT3: ... that the Sunny South, a clipper ship captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was built by a racing yacht designer, and outran the steam-powered HMS Brisk for four hours?
- FYI DYK rules require at least one citation per paragraph, even if that paragraph is only one sentence. Hook information must have a cite at the end of the sentence(s) in which all or part appear. Offline sources are accepted on good faith.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
citation problems fixed and ALT 3 is good.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 31
Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827
- ... that according to Scrivener, there are a few manuscripts of the Greek New Testament from the 12th century, with equal importance as Codex Ephesinus?
- Reviewed: Samaikyandhra Movement
5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Length and recent 5x expansion check out fine. However, I have some stylistic concerns with the hook and with the article itself. First of all, the hook as currently written says that there are "a few manuscripts" of the period with equal importance, when the source actually states, "Few MSS. of the 12th century will be found to equal it in weight and importance."[8] There seems to be a difference between saying that there are "a few manuscripts" as good as this one, versus saying that "few manuscripts" are as good as this one. Second, some sentences in the article are grammatically incorrect, such as It contains Epistula ad Carpianum (Epistle to Carpian) at the beginning of the codex, lists of the κεφαλαια were placed before each Gospel in the 15th century, and slight illuminations before each Gospel. and According to Scrivener there are a few Greek manuscripts of the New Testament from the 12th century "will be found to equal it in weight and importance". Third, the article includes foreign language phrases to too great an extent for an English Wikipedia article (see Wikipedia:Writing better articles#Use other languages sparingly). For example: According to the colophon (in red), on folio 263 verso, the manuscript was written in ετει απο χριστου αρξ, but αρξ as year is not authentic, it was overwritten by later hand, the real year was σχξη. and Scholz had noted that "familiae plerumque adhaeret Constantinopolitanae" (today called as the Byzantine). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Epistula ad Carpianum is translated in the brackets, lists of the κεφαλαια I have changed into "tables of the κεφαλαια (tables of contents)". αρξ and σχξη are more clear now. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please note that the sentence with "Epistula ad Carpanium" in it was cited above as grammatically incorrect, not as one of the sentences containing excess foreign language verbiage. Other sentences with grammatical problems in the article include He bent his attention it its illustration. and Scrivener did not examined them. I recommend that this article be reviewed by someone who is familiar enough with the topic to edit it properly. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Epistula ad Carpianum is translated in the brackets, lists of the κεφαλαια I have changed into "tables of the κεφαλαια (tables of contents)". αρξ and σχξη are more clear now. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I made more improvements (also Byzantine text). Is it possible to combine the hook with a new created article?
- ALT1 ... that Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827 belong to the textual Family 1424, which still deserves a more textual study than received? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- The length and date of Minuscule 827 (Gregory-Aland) check out fine, but I'm going to request that another editor evaluate the hook and overall quality of the articles, rather than myself. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Both articles check out for length, date etc. However the ALT1 is too subjective, and not mentioned in either article.
- ALT2 that Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827 belong to the textual Family 1424.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand, Memo Rojas
- ... that Gray's Anatomy star Patrick Dempsey (pictured) placed third in his class in the 2011 24 Hours of Daytona endurance race, won overall by a team comprising drivers Scott Pruett, Memo Rojas, Graham Rahal and Joey Hand?
- Reviewed: 1973 DeKalb-Peachtree Airport Learjet 24 crash
- Comment:
Race article was created for ITN, but looks like it won't make the cut there.Also yes, over 200 char hook, but as I recall multiple hooks are given a bit of leeway there?
2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand created by The Bushranger (talk). Memo Rojas 2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Expanded Memo Rojas per the unreferenced BLP rule. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Since this has been around for a bit, this might make sence: after it's approved, could it be run on the 20th, perhaps, at the 1pm Eastern Time update? (Since that would be around the start of the Daytona 500). - The Bushranger One ping only 06:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Added alternative pic for alt1. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:32, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Daytona Prototype (cars pictures) drivers Scott Pruett, Memo Rojas, Graham Rahal and Joey Hand co-drove the winning car at the 2011 24 Hours of Daytona?
Articles created/expanded on February 1
Bleeker Ridge
- ... that Canadian rock band Bleeker Ridge formed in 2003, when the youngest members were 12 years old?
Created by Scorpion0422 (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Hook cited. Length good. Meets WP:BAND & other policies. Article was created on 1 Feband nominated on 9 Feb, so it was 8 days old. This is probably not an issue unless there is too much of a backlog. Removed (pictured) because there is no image in nomination, and the one on the page is not good at 100px. --Dbratland (talk) 18:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Oliver Lewis (violinist)
- ... that Oliver Lewis (pictured), founding member of the electronic music group Deviations Project, is considered to be the "world's fastest violinist"?
Created by Daicaregos (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
not yet, the image needs to be approved through OTRS first.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Double checked Alexikoua's verification but I agree with Thelma about the image. However a promoting admin could feel free to take this hook for any of the non-picture slots. AgneCheese/Wine 22:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's true, but the picture is excellent for 100px. Worth the wait IMHO.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, I already used it then put it back (on MS's advice) to wait for the OTRS. Well worth waiting for! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's true, but the picture is excellent for 100px. Worth the wait IMHO.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
National Liberation Army (Peru)
- ... that Javier Heraud and Edgardo Tello were hailed as "guerrilla poets" after their deaths serving in the Peruvian National Liberation Army?
Created by HelperMonkey (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
(oddly, you do not seem to have a "Warrior Poet" article to which I can link...very odd) HelperMonkey (talk) 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment HelperMonkey just registered yesterday; this is the first time s/he has tried for a DYK. Nyttend (talk) 17:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- Is that not allowed? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelperMonkey (talk • contribs) 23:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- No no, it just means you are not obliged to review another DYK submission. You're good, no worries, and thanks for joining the team. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, this is interesting stuff, but I'm not ready yet to OK it. Sourcing is a bit of an issue: obviously, many of the references are not available online, and while that is not mandatory it does help. Using citation templates would be an improvement also, and there are too many entries that lack basic bibliographic information--in the current version], notes 2 through 9, basically. Also, I can't verify note 1--and notes 1, 5, and 6 are necessary to verify the hook, as are notes 3 and 4. I see also that the Javier Heraud article lacks proper verification through reliable sources.
So, it's not just a matter of cleanup, it's also the sourcing that needs to be taken care of before it can get to the front page... Drmies (talk) 17:53, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- All the "offline" sources are on Google Books - I just typed their names (and the name of the group) into Google Books to find it all :) HelperMonkey (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you use the citation templates you can easily add the URL. They look like this:{{cite book|last=Hunter|first=Dave|title=Guitar effects pedals: the practical handbook|year=2004|publisher=Hal Leonard|isbn=9780879308063|pages=24, 89|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=myP-4CZWyxcC&pg=PT89}}</ref> (from MXR Dyna Comp). See WP:CITE, for instance. Drmies (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- All the "offline" sources are on Google Books - I just typed their names (and the name of the group) into Google Books to find it all :) HelperMonkey (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- I couldn't figure out the templates to link to the right pages on the Google Books page, but I added a couple more online references including TIME magazine and one or two others so I hope it is good now? HelperMonkey (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
VERY interesting article. I haven't looked into the referencing yet but I noticed that the article only mentions "guerrilla poets" once in the bullet point of Edgardo Tello and doesn't explicitly state that the term came to be associated with them after their deaths like you state in the hook. While the DYK hook doesn't have to be a word-for-word snippet in the article, but something to the effect of what the hook says should be pretty clearly stated. I recommend actually creating a sub-section of the article titled "Guerrilla poets" where you can consolidate the details (and references) about Heraud and Tello and make more clear how their connection to the NLA influenced their legacy, etc. But again, extremely interesting article and a great first start for a Wikipedian. Welcome! I hope to see more of your work. AgneCheese/Wine 22:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Olav Braarud
- ... that Olav Braarud was the last managing director of the Oslo light rail company Holmenkolbanen that hailed from Sør-Trøndelag?
Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz
- ... that Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz (pictured) was a German geophysicist whose equations use seismic waves to map underground features?
Created by Kwinkunks (talk). Nominated by Reynardo (talk) at 03:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Edited hook to remove underscores in links and bold main article. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 14:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is still well short of the 1500 character minimum at 970 characters. Mikenorton (talk) 11:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 3
Jordon Saffron Taste This!
- ... that in the 2009 independent feature film Jordon Saffron Taste This!, the scenes by Steve Schirripa and Rachel Hunter were done in one take?
Created by Nicodavo (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that for the 2009 independent feature film Jordon Saffron Taste This!, director Sergio Myers created a filmmaking style he calls "Free Flow Filmmaking"? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Let's see if it passes its AFD first. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 16:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that for the 2009 independent feature film Jordon Saffron Taste This!, director Sergio Myers created a filmmaking style he calls "Free Flow Filmmaking"? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Chair (sculpture)
- ... that a woman lived 42 days on the former world's largest chair in 1960?
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
The article needs some copy-editing and additional inline citations, especially in the "Community reception" section. DYK rules suggest at least one cite per paragraph; can this be fixed? 28bytes (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with 28bytes. This is a
at best right now. In addition to the Community reception section the entire Looking Glass House section, which is at the heart of the hook, is completely unreferenced. I also assisted in adding citation needed tags to other important claims in the article that certainly need a citation before this article is eligible. AgneCheese/Wine 23:03, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 4
Moyes Dragonfly
- ... that the Moyes Dragonfly ultralight aircraft was designed for the specialised role of towing hang gliders, but is also used for herding livestock?
- Comment: Non-self-nom.
Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Anatolius (curator), 557 Constantinople earthquake
- ... that according to Agathias, Anatolius, killed in his bed by a falling piece of decorative marble shaken off the wall, was the only high-ranking Byzantine official to die in the 557 Constantinople earthquake?
Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the only high-ranking Byzantine official to die in the 557 Constantinople earthquake was a curator and honorary consul killed by a piece of decorative marble?
- --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 16:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Auchincruive
- ... that Oswald Hall (pictured), former residence of Richard Oswald, the British representative at the 1783 Peace of Paris after the American War of Independence, became a teaching farm in the 20th century?
Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
Well-written, nicely-illustrated article, and mostly well-referenced. The image is relevant, included in the article, and CC-licensed. However, some of the hook facts (those relating to Oswald's career) lack a reference. I have tagged the relevant sentences in the article.
Also, the hook is too long: 202 characters is over the limit. Please suggest a shorter hook. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please do not count "(pictured)". --70.31.10.224 (talk) 06:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Even if we omit "(pictured)", we still have 191 characters, which is too close to the hard limit. I suggest dropping the phrase "after the American War of Independence", as in ALT1 below. Note that the references are still needed before this can be finalised. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:21, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Oswald Hall (pictured), former residence of Richard Oswald, the British representative at the 1783 Peace of Paris, became a teaching farm in the 20th century?
- I think it's better to keep "American War of Independence" in the hook in some way. That's one thing in the hook that any general readers of DYK on MainPage can relate to. I don't see any problem with the perfectly legal hook length of <200 characters. --PFHLai (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- And I concur on both points. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's better to keep "American War of Independence" in the hook in some way. That's one thing in the hook that any general readers of DYK on MainPage can relate to. I don't see any problem with the perfectly legal hook length of <200 characters. --PFHLai (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Arnold Cook
- ... that in 1950, Arnold Cook was the first person to bring a guide dog to Australia?
Created by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hook length OK, hook stated in article, article new & size OK, refs now OK (added newspaper source). --Lexein (talk) 17:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
14th Test Squadron
- ... that the United States Air Force's 14th Test Squadron (pictured) was originally activated during the Cold War as the 14th Missile Warning Squadron and assigned to operate radar sites around the United States?
14thTS Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 14thMWS Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Jsayre64 (talk) at 03:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of merging this with the 14th MWS hook, as nominated by Jsayre64 here, to make/restore a double hook. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- These are two separate articles on the history of the same subject. There is no reason to keep them separate honestly as the Air Force recognizes the fact that units can come and go and share the same heritage. If this was the Navy, where they don't officially do that (something which we tend to ignore anyways), then I would be a little more leery but I really feel as though there is no reason to keep these separate. Additionally, if this was a unit that existed during the Second World War and another that existed after, with the same number, then this would be understandable. Besides, as it was, a lot of the information was duplicated. It is better to have one comprehensive article than two separate ones that are parroting each other. I have already merged the warning squadron into the other article and I was reverted, although the text on the test squadron remained. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Bryant W. Bailey
- ... that Bryant W. Bailey, the only Populist delegate to the Louisiana Constitutional Convention of 1898, voted against the document, which contained the discriminatory grandfather clause?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed New Georgia, Liberia.
Size and date OK. I have two problems with the hook. First, I see a source that Bailey refused to sign the document, I don't see a source that there was a vote or that he voted against. Second, I don't see a source saying that the reason for this declining to sign was the grandfather clause. Perhaps you can point me. --Muhandes (talk) 19:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Two sources: one says, the Constitution contained the grandfather clause. Another says, Bailey was the only delegate to vote against the Constituition. That second source does not say the grandfather clause was the reason for his vote. So I adjusted the hook in case there was another reason for his vote. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 5
Local government in Sri Lanka
- ... that Sri Lanka has a long history of local government?
- Reviewed: Harry Goodhart
Created by Obi2canibe (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Dull hook. Isn't this true of many other countries? Is there something distinguishing about local government in Sri Lanka? Might as well say "... that the XXXX River will wet you if you touch it?" Daniel Case (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Possibly this, or words to this effect, as an ALT1 (refs [2] and [4] support, at a glance):
- ... that in 1987, Sri Lanka changed its method of electing local government members from first-past-the-post to proportional representation? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Better, I guess. Daniel Case (talk) 04:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Agree to change hook to ALT1.--obi2canibetalk contr 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Sylvester H. Roper, Roper steam velocipede
- ... that Sylvester H. Roper's steam velocipede (pictured) of 1867–1869 is one of three candidates for the title of first motorcycle?
- Reviewed: Lester S. Willson
- Comment: Dbratland created Sylvester H. Roper. Both authors worked on Roper steam velocipede.
Created by Dbratland (talk), Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Roy John (rugby player)
- ... that Wales rugby union international Roy John could leap over four feet from a standing start?
- Reviewed: Domaine Coche-Dury
5x expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Is the four feet statistic a calculation between John's height (needs citation, but is given in ref#3) and reaching the crossbar (already cited)? If so, I think the hook should be reworded – I assumed that he could jump 4' horizontally from standing. Suggest alt:
- ALT1: ... that from a standing start, Wales rugby union international Roy John could jump up and reach the crossbar set at 3.2 metres (10 ft 6 in) above the ground? matt (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Correct on all accounts, I'm more than happy with the alternative hook. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Tradition
- ... that scholars estimate that it takes two or three generations for a tradition to emerge?
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk), Sadads (talk), Ragesoss (talk), and Guerillero (talk) and others. Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- A collaboration work by Wikipedia:Ambassadors. Multiple authors (although the template displays only three). Should fit 5x expansion particularly as a lot of older, unreferenced content was (re)moved.
- Reviewed Montague James Mathew. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Haven't copyedited the entire article yet (get on it, Sadads!), but the hook is verified and I think the article is good to go. Drmies (talk) 21:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm thinking that the hook should say either "a tradition" or "traditions". I've gone ahead and changed it to "a tradition", feel free to play around with it as necessary. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to be a spoil sport (again), but 3510 > 13098 isn't a 5x expansion. SmartSE (talk) 21:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Prose size (text only): 15 kB (2273 words) "readable prose size" <- is what I see --Guerillero | My Talk 23:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- We split away Traditionalism (religion) from the original article, if you remove those 250 words (which is an independent article and should have been from the start), you start with 474 words and end with 2458 words that is a more than 5 times expansion. That is still a go. Sadads (talk) 23:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Per Sadads, and my earlier comments, some off-topic content was split, so it shouldn't count. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:46, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- We split away Traditionalism (religion) from the original article, if you remove those 250 words (which is an independent article and should have been from the start), you start with 474 words and end with 2458 words that is a more than 5 times expansion. That is still a go. Sadads (talk) 23:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
John DeStefano
- ... that in 1933, two former Boston mayors and two local businessmen bought materials for art student John DeStefano to create a bronze bas relief portrait of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt and paid for him to travel to the White House to personally present it to the President?
5x expanded by GabrielF (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:Hook is too long to hold reader's continuity.
There is no personal box. The article is still listed as stub. Good selection of topic, but I think it needs a little more work. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Infobox is not a DYK requirement, stub templates are generally removed when an article is accepted for DYK. The article is just barely long enough, but Billy Hawthorn is right, the hook is much too long. Consider these alts instead:
- ALT1:... that art student John DeStefano created the cast bronze bas-relief portrait of Franklin Delano Roosevelt that hangs in the White House Roosevelt Room?
- ALT2:... that artist John DeStefano spent sixty years creating mannequins after deciding that he could not support his family with his art?
- --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 11:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 6
Siege of Phasis
- ... that after the failed Siege of Phasis during the Lazic War against the Byzantines, the Sassanid Persian shāh became so upset with his losing general that he had him flayed alive?
Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
HMS Jamaica (44)
- ... that the British light cruiser HMS Jamaica led the bombardment force covering the Royal Marine landings at Port Said, Egypt, during Operation Musketeer in 1956, but she was not permitted to fire her main guns as the Cabinet had banned naval gunfire support by guns larger than 4.5 inches (114 mm)?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Daly's Club
Johanna Mestorf
- ... that the prehistoric archaeologist Johanna Mestorf was the first female museum director in Germany, and at 71 became the first or second female professor?
Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 07:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Huejotzingo: diff
Date, length, and sources check out. The last part of the hook looks a little awkward (the "first or second" part). Maybe alter slightly before promotion to DYK? Ruby2010 talk 18:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing it! I wasn't sure what to do about that. It's the obvious fact to use for the hook, but her own university obstinately contradicts all other sources, without even naming who they consider was first. (My best guess based on lots of searching is Margarete von Wrangell, who was the first ordentliche Professorin). And all I could find in the parts of the book from the conference about her that are on GoogleBooks is a statement that she was "one of the first." Yngvadottir (talk) 19:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe it would be better to say "one of the first" in the hook then, since that would satisfy all sources? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think that gets us into weasel word territory, and it certainly makes it ho-hum. The annoying thing is that the vast preponderance of sources say she was first - and go on about her staggering achievements and how she was "forgotten." She's now all over the internet and a fixture in books on female academics, German academic history, and the history of archeology, but "she invented the following 3 terms" and "She was the first female museum director in Germany" are boring hooks, and "She only got an honorary doctorate 10 years after she was made an honorary professor, in her retirement year" is not fair to her awe-inspiring career. So that was my problem. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hm. "Is considered by some to be the first"? "Is generally considered to be the first"? Well, darn, you're right. :P --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think that gets us into weasel word territory, and it certainly makes it ho-hum. The annoying thing is that the vast preponderance of sources say she was first - and go on about her staggering achievements and how she was "forgotten." She's now all over the internet and a fixture in books on female academics, German academic history, and the history of archeology, but "she invented the following 3 terms" and "She was the first female museum director in Germany" are boring hooks, and "She only got an honorary doctorate 10 years after she was made an honorary professor, in her retirement year" is not fair to her awe-inspiring career. So that was my problem. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe it would be better to say "one of the first" in the hook then, since that would satisfy all sources? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Rule 90
- ... that, in the Rule 90 cellular automaton, any finite pattern eventually fills the whole array of cells with copies of itself?
- Reviewed: Zliten mosaic
5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Belemnotheutis
... that the fossilized ink of the extinct squid-like creature Belemnotheutis (life restoration pictured) was used to draw a picture of it 150 million years later?
- ALT1:
... that the fossilized ink of the extinct squid-like creature Belemnotheutis (life restoration pictured) was used to draw a picture of itself 150 million years later? - Comment: I still need to expand with a History section concerning the controversy it caused between Richard Owen and Gideon Mantell, but figured I should post the nomination here while I work on that to avoid missing the 5-day window. The expansion is from a stub and I'm aiming for more than just DYK quality. The picture used is my own work, made for the article as I couldn't find any suitable pictures existing. Also I only have 1 DYK to my name heh, so I think I'm still exempt from the reviewing rule. And to be honest, I need the time to expand.
- ALT1:
5x expanded by Obsidian Soul (talk), Smartse (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
5x verified. Would strongly suggest "artist's rendition pictured" instead of "life restoration pictured" as wording change. Facts verified. Some alt suggestions below. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the extinct, squid-like Belemnotheutis's (artist's rendition pictured) 150-million-year-old ink was used to draw a picture that paleontologists called "the ultimate self portrait?"
- ALT2:... that the 150-million-year-old ink of the extinct, squid-like Belemnotheutis (artist's rendition pictured) was used to draw a picture that paleontologists called "the ultimate self portrait?"
- Agree, this one's much better. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Cleveland Point Light
- ... that James Troy served as the light keeper of Cleveland Point Light (pictured) for 50 years, the longest serving light keeper at one lighthouse in Australia?
- Comment: Reviewed Bryant W. Bailey
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe
- ... that every federal judge in South Carolina recused from South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe?
- Reviewed: Len de l'El
Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think this article needs simplification. It is hard to follow the legal ramblings. Shouldn't the hook say "recused themselves" instead of only "recused"? Did you find why those judges recused themselves? Most don't recuse themselves that often, even if they should, right? It's hard to associate this article from the 1840s to the 1980s. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a complicated case there's no doubt, but I've tried to write the article for an intelligent lay audience willing to dig deeper if interested. I added some explanation where the article could bear it, and had to rely on wikilinks otherwise. "Recused themselves" would be wrong because "every" is singular. Judges nearly always do not explain why they recuse and this case was no exception (there was no published district court opinion, much less a published recusal opinion). I'm glad to respond to any other requests for improvement here or on the article talk page, but I don't think the article has to be perfect in order to be a DYK. Savidan 19:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think grammatically speaking the proper form would be ... that every federal judge in South Carolina recused him- or herself from South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe? But nobody talks like that. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Though come to think of it, considering the time this happened, it would probably be ok to say: ... that every federal judge in South Carolina recused himself from South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that a pronoun is correct, but it is not required. "[X] recused." is used all the time. The verb does not require a direct object. Savidan 19:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- "Recused [oneself]" is the more common form. It just depends on whether recuse is used in the transitive or intransitive form, as it is ambitransitive (see Wiktionary entry.) Frankly I don't care either way; it just sounds more natural in the transitive form. But that's my opinion. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 19:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that a pronoun is correct, but it is not required. "[X] recused." is used all the time. The verb does not require a direct object. Savidan 19:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Robert L. Frye
- ... that in 1972, the Republican Robert L. Frye outpolled his party's statewide membership ten-fold but still lost the race for Louisiana education superintendent?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT... that in 1972, Republican Robert L. Frye claimed that his Democratic opponent offered him a job to entice Frye to leave the race for Louisiana education superintendent?
- Reviewed John DeStefano.
Could you please explain the nature of the source for the "ten-fold" claim. I am willing to AGF if "State of Louisiana, "Statement of Registered Voters as of January 1, 1972," (Baton Rouge: Secretary of State, 1972)" is just an off-line published source, but if it's something buried in the Secretary of State's office that is not published, that's problematic. Could you please explain how you found this? If you found it through a secondary or tertiary source, perhaps add that as well. Savidan 19:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- The information on January 1972 voter registration numbers and the February 1, 1972 general election returns were mailed to me in 1980 as part of a master's thesis that I did on the Republican Party in Louisiana. Mr. Frye got slighty more than ten times the votes of the number of registered Republicans in his state at that time. He lived to see his party hold six of the seven U.S. House seats from his state, quite a bit of realignment. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Added the thesis as the secondary source Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
I am inclined to say that nearly all masters theses are not sufficiently published to be cited as a source, although I'd be open to your explaining why yours should qualify.
However, the alternate hook does not appear to rely on either of these sources. Savidan 23:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 7
Gunnar Bratlie
- ... that Gunnar Bratlie was imprisoned for two years following the appearance of a Quisling caricature in a weekly magazine in 1943?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Gunnar Bratlie was imprisoned for two years for his caricature in a weekly magazine?
Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam
- ... that Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, the "star of Abergavenny," was so beloved that, when she died in 1454, three thousand knights, nobles and weeping peasants followed her body to its burial place?
Created by CaroleHenson (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 12:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Length OK, date OK, hook length OK, article looks fine. However, the hook is not quite accurate: according to the article the 3,000 are a legend while the hook makes it look like an actual fact. We are close to the 200 character limit for the hook, so I had trouble coming up with a good fix. Perhaps this:
- ALT ... that noblewoman Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam was so beloved that, according to legend, when she died in 1454 three thousand knights, nobles and weeping peasants followed her body to its burial place? Herostratus (talk) 19:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Chesme Church
- ... that the coffin of Rasputin rested in Chesme Church (pictured) before his burial at Tsarskoye Selo in 1916?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 06:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ellen Hayes
- Added an img. --Nvvchar. 10:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Img, 5X, online ref verified. well-referenced. Good to go. --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thomas William Hislop
- ... that Thomas Hislop (pictured) enjoyed being Minister of Education, as his father was the author of the New Zealand Education Act?
- Reviewed: U Dhammaloka (on 28 Jan)
5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
The Martha Raye Show
- ... that just prior to the premiere of The Martha Raye Show in 1954, Variety dubbed Raye the "funniest femme in television"?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Alpha, Texas
Length and dates are fine and I've done a bit to improve the sourcing for the article in general from contemporary sources but the hook fact is 1) sourced to the "Classic TV Info" website instead of Variety itself, 2) says the quotation is from "just prior to the premiere" but the cited sourced doesn't put a date to the Variety article is claims to quote, and 3) the hook fact sentence and the one immediately following are close paraphrases of the cited text.
- Article: "Variety called Raye "the funniest femme in television," at a time when her competitors included Lucille Ball, Eve Arden, Gracie Allen, and Joan Davis. Raye would be less remembered over the years than the other comediennes because their work was shown in repeated rebroadcasts through I Love Lucy, Our Miss Brooks, The Burns and Allen Show, and I Married Joan, respectively."
- Source: "Variety dubbed Raye "the funniest femme in television," which is saying something, considering that the competition consisted of such colorful comediennes as Lucille Ball, Eve Arden, Gracie Allen, and Joan Davis. If she's not as well remembered today as those other stars, it can be largely attributed to the fact that her shows aired live and were never seen again, whereas I Love Lucy, Our Miss Brooks, The Burns and Allen Show, and I Married Joan were rerun endlessly in the years following their network runs."
- ALT1: ... that The Martha Raye Show featured retired boxing great Rocky Graziano playing the boyfriend of the 1950s series' star, Martha Raye? (a partial solution, hook-ier in my opinion) - Dravecky (talk) 07:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Poulsard
- ... that even though the Jura wine grape Poulsard is a dark-skinned grape, the amount of color pigments in its skin is so low that it can be used to make white wine?
- Reviewed: SS. Cyril, Methodius, and Raphael's Church (New York City)
- Comment: Primary ref is Robinson's grape guide (FN#1) but online Oxford Companion cite (FN#2) also makes mention of white wine production
5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 11:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length, expansion all check. The fact checks with the alternate reference, or otherwise this could be an AGF approval. Rlendog (talk) 21:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Contention-- without even having read the article, the hook is misleading. Any red grape can be used to make white wine -- as long as the skins are removed before they tint the resultant liquid. See wine color article. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually that fact is really not that well known. Even a lot of wine drinkers just assume that "red grapes make red wine and white grapes make white wine" so it is a great opportunity to share a little insight on the main page. Not only does the article explain maceration (which I understand you haven't read yet) but the links to color pigments and white wine also go to the relevant articles that further educate the reader. There is nothing misleading. In fact, this is exactly what a Did you know... should do--highlight stuff that is not commonly known. AgneCheese/Wine 05:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oh and BTW... It's incorrect to say that any red grape can be used to make white wine. Not only are there teinturiers but there are also red grapes like Cabernet Sauvignon and Syrah that have such a concentration of color pigments in their skin that even the briefest of skin contact through just crushing still leaves a tint of pink making them more a rosé rather than a white wine. It's also why White Zinfandel isn't really "white". :P AgneCheese/Wine 05:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, "many." ;) It's just that the hook makes it sound like it's the only or one of very few red grapes that can be used to make red wine, whereas this is not the case. Maybe a better way would be to get a DYK on wine color and give that fact there instead. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it is really misleading since it doesn't make any claim to exclusivity. But Poulsard is unique because of how low its pigment is for a noir grape. As referenced in the article, even after a week of skin contact it barely tinges the wine while most grapes, as noted, start dying the wine almost immediately upon crushing. Now we could put all that extra info about the week long maceration, etc but that would take the hook over the 200 byte mark. Though if you want to find a way to squeeze that extra stuff into an alt hook, feel free to recommend one. Oh and wine color is linked in the hook via the white wine redirect. AgneCheese/Wine 07:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the dark skins of Poulsard wine grapes have so few color pigments they can be used to make white wine?
- Which at first glance seems like the exact same thing as above, just reworded, but the antecedent for the pronoun "they" is actually "skins." But then again, the original hook is also perfectly fine.
- Or: ALT2:... that the dark skins of Poulsard wine grapes have so few color pigments that they will not stain the resultant liquid, resulting in white wine?
- Which is more explicit. But like I said, the original is fine. :) --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 13:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Ideally I'd like to get a link to include either Jura wine or French wine as a descriptor of the grape in there. (I see that you have Jura wine behind the wine redirect but I don't think the reader is going to expect that going there). However, if the promoting admin prefers either of these Alts, I have no problem with them. I appreciate you trying to find some Alts. AgneCheese/Wine 23:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it is really misleading since it doesn't make any claim to exclusivity. But Poulsard is unique because of how low its pigment is for a noir grape. As referenced in the article, even after a week of skin contact it barely tinges the wine while most grapes, as noted, start dying the wine almost immediately upon crushing. Now we could put all that extra info about the week long maceration, etc but that would take the hook over the 200 byte mark. Though if you want to find a way to squeeze that extra stuff into an alt hook, feel free to recommend one. Oh and wine color is linked in the hook via the white wine redirect. AgneCheese/Wine 07:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- OK, "many." ;) It's just that the hook makes it sound like it's the only or one of very few red grapes that can be used to make red wine, whereas this is not the case. Maybe a better way would be to get a DYK on wine color and give that fact there instead. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Silas Blissett
- ... that British soap opera Hollyoaks introduced fictional killer Silas Blissett to raise awareness of Internet safety?
Created by AcidBrights (talk). Nominated by Raintheone (talk) at 16:10, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook check. (Article only existed as a redirect before, so should count as article creation.) --JN466 00:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Did you even look at the article? The inline hook isn't referenced.
I'm a little unsure about the article's sourcing, too. All 9 of the references are different links, but they're all the same author, on the same website, about the same thing. It kind of borders on WP:ONESOURCE.Jrcla2 (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should call the character a "killer" rather than a "serial killer". According to the article, present storylines only have him complete one murder, although he attempts or contemplates two others which he then doesn't go through with. --JN466 00:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well the sources say serial killer, but that's fine. (He killed his wife but that's yet to be revealed nor has it gained any out world coverage as of yet.) Changed to killer.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 14:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Patrick Horsbrugh
Entire section 'storylines' is still unreferenced. Otherwise the hook is appropriately cited. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 17:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Storylines are not required to be sourced per the MoS on writing about fictional characters.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 20:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
WP:TVPLOT specifically says it's for episode articles, but I'm going to assume you understand better than I do conventions for these sorts of things.--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 8
Castilleja septentrionalis
- ... that the beautiful purple-tinged flowering Castilleja septentrionalis (pale painted cup) is a parasite on the roots of other plants?
Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Romy Rosemont Sharktopustalk 01:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Spektrum Flyers
- ...that the ice hockey team Spektrum Flyers was abandoned after two years because its management moved it from Oslo to Bergen?
Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Charles Edward Hubbard Arsenikk (talk) 23:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Lawrence Roehm
- ... that Michigan's 1915 quarterback Lawrence Roehm (pictured) was called the "thinking type," "160 pounds of undaunted courage," and a "peppery"' player who imbued his team with "do-or-die spirit"?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Ted Bank
- ... that Michigan quarterback Ted Bank (pictured) wore a specially constructed knee brace to allow him to play football after suffering a shrapnel injury in World War I?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Rosendale Village, New York
- ... that Rosendale Village (pictured) in upstate New York, chose to dissolve itself in 1977 as an exercise in conceptual art?
5x expanded by Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Niagara Parkway. --Gyrobo (talk) 22:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Black and Blue (Homicide: Life on the Street)
- ... that Julianna Margulies (pictured) appeared in the Homicide: Life on the Street episode "Black and Blue" as a romantic interest to the much-older Ned Beatty?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 07:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed "Dani Siciliano, Likes..." [9]
All of the relevant citations are offline, but the fact does check out with non-RS sites like IMDB. Image also checks out. It's good to go. -- Scorpion0422 14:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Henry Hildyard
- ... that during the Boer War General Henry Hildyard (pictured) told Winston Churchill that his Brigade was in "formation for taking advantage of ant-heaps"?
- Reviewed: Pinocchio paradox
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Amanita australis, Amanita nothofagi, Entoloma haastii, Mycena cystidiosa, Mycena minirubra, Oudemansiella australis, Greta Stevenson
- … that the New Zealand mushrooms Amanita australis (pictured), A. nothofagi, Entoloma haastii, Mycena cystidiosa, M. minirubra, and Oudemansiella australis were all described as new to science by Greta Stevenson?
- Comment: Amanita australis, Amanita nothofagi, and Oudemansiella australis are 5x expansions, the rest are new creations.
- Reviewed: St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Verified every single one. Length & expansions, dates, hook, awesome mushroom pic all good. DYK ready. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Salaulim Dam
- ... that the Salaulim Dam (pictured) in Goa, India has a unique Duckbill type of Spillway located in the gorge section?
Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Museo Miraflores.--Nvvchar. 13:50, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Don Charles
- ... that the UK singer Don Charles, who had one top forty hit, later bought a Maltese night club with Rolf Harris?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
There's More Than One of Everything
- ... that Leonard Nimoy's work on Fringe began with the episode "There's More Than One of Everything", and the show will be his last acting project?
Created by Ruby2010 talk 18:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Johanna Mestorf. Note: the article was expanded from a redirect (so this could either be considered a new article or expanded 5x). Not sure what the policy is on this. Ruby2010 talk 18:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Liar paradox in early Islamic tradition
- ... that Ṭūsī (pictured) was the first one to recognize that, if a declarative sentence that declares itself being false, is false, this does not necessitate it being true?
- Reviewed: Cognitive rehabilitation therapy
Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 04:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Marshall JTM 45
- ... that the Marshall JTM 45 was based on the Fender Bassman, but had different harmonic content because of increased feedback?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Marshall JTM 45, the British company's first amplifier, has more sag but less crunch than their later models? :) Drmies (talk) 02:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed William Wadé Harris. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Dent Island Light
- ... that W. P. Clark, who previously constructed Bustard Head Light in 1868, had to abort the construction of Dent Island Light and Cape Cleveland Light in 1878 following personal difficulties?
- Comment: reviewed T. Arthur Cottam. Also, just noticed this is my 25th selfnom, yay for me.
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Length and date checked. Hook is a bit bland, an Alternate is proposed below. --Mike Cline (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Alt1: the original 1879 Dent Island Lighthouse in Queensland was so short, 20 feet (6.1 m), that its clockwork mechanism had to be wound every 75 minutes to keep it turning. --Mike Cline (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1 is better. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- We already had ALT1 for Cape Cleveland Light. Maybe a hook on the two lighthouses being constructed together?
- ALT2: ... that Cape Cleveland Light and Dent Island Light were recommended for construction together, approved together, and constructed at the same time, in 1878–1879?
--Muhandes (talk) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- May I suggest to make this a double hook? Double Island Point Light was authored 13 February
- ALT3 ... that W. P. Clark constructed Bustard Head Light, Double Island Point Light and Pine Islet Light, and started but did not complete the construction of Cape Cleveland Light and Dent Island Light?
--Muhandes (talk) 17:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Red Barked Tree
- ... that while it took Wire three months to come up with a title for their last album, Object 47, the band immediately agreed on naming their current record Red Barked Tree?
5x expanded by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Silas Blissett
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998
- ... that under the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998, an employee will be protected from dismissal if he engages in whistleblowing actions, but will not be protected from a libel lawsuit if the allegations turn out to be false? Ironholds 14:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Length and history verified; offline ref accepted on good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Les Trois Grâces
- ... that The Three Graces dance in the streets of Washington, D.C.?
Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I see no mention of Les Trois Graces ever dancing on the streets of Washington, D.C. which should be wikilinked, also the suggested hook isn't very interesting. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 12:08pm • 01:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article and its illustration explain the apparent anomaly, which is nicely suggestive ("hooking"): so! they're not the ancient Greek Graces themselves, as one might think at first.--Wetman (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I think you're over-estimating the cultural know-how of the average reader. ;)
- That having been said, I can only find explicitly stated in the article that the artwork will be installed by 2015, not that it's there already. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 13:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think the nominator has any intention to supply a new hook. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 10:06am • 23:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article and its illustration explain the apparent anomaly, which is nicely suggestive ("hooking"): so! they're not the ancient Greek Graces themselves, as one might think at first.--Wetman (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Gateway Project
- ... that TIGER grants are contributing to the construction of the Gateway Project , a high speed rail corridor between Newark Penn Station and New York Penn Station?
- Reviewed: New Ulm Oil Company Service Station, though not yet five noms
Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on February 9
Arne Paasche Aasen
- ... that a Norwegian song from 1950 with lyrics by Arne Paasche Aasen sold around 100,000 records?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
St John the Baptist's Church, Stanton
- ... that St John the Baptist's Church, Stanton, Suffolk, (pictured) is built up to the boundary of the churchyard, so the lowest stage of its tower was left open to allow processions around the church?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, and image check out. However, the hook is somewhat confusing: the article and reference source state only that the west wall is built up to the boundary of the church yard, and that the tower being open at its lowest stage for processionals appears to be independent of the aforementioned attribute. Perhaps the hook can be simplified and the detail about the churchyard boundary can be left out? KimChee (talk) 14:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- I guess you're right. I wanted to include the west wall, and also explain that the processions were to go round the outside of the church, but this isn't possible within 200 characters, so unless anyone is clever enough to create a hook clear enough and short enough, I think this suggestion will have to be dropped. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the bottom of the tower of St John the Baptist's Church (pictured) in Stanton, Suffolk provides a path for processions through the wall surrounding the church? KimChee (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying, but that doesn't really say it. To be properly accurate would I fear take >200 characters, so I still think the suggestion should be dropped. But I really appreciate your time and effort.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Quicksilver GT500
- ... that the Quicksilver GT500 is the first aircraft certified under Part 21.24 of the Federal Aviation Regulations?
- Comment: Non-self-nom.
Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article doesn't establish any sort of notability. It doesn't say why the plane is important, and I'm a little worried that the manufacturer doesn't even have an article. More importantly, the hook does not appear in the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Quoting from WP:AIR/N, An aircraft is generally notable if it is verifiably — through reliable sources — a distinct "type" as demonstrated by any one or more of the following criteria: ... 2. The aircraft has received a type certificate from a national aviation authority. (eg: the Bellanca CH-300 was granted U.S. Approved Type Certificate 129.)". And the hook fact is, indeed, in the article: The GT500 was developed specifically for the FAR 21.24 Sportplane class of the primary aircraft category and on 26 July 1994 became the first aircraft certified in that category.. A stub for the manufacturer will be up shortly. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, I started this article, so I guess I can be the one to answer any questions on it. First as User:The Bushranger has noted it meets notability requirements for and WP:AIR/N. It also meets WP:GNG, too, as it has 13 references, of which 11 are third party independent refs, including one that is the FAA. Not sure why User:Hurricanehink would think that the proposed "hook" of that the Quicksilver GT500 is the first aircraft certified under Part 21.24 of the Federal Aviation Regulations? is not supported in the text as the text says "The GT500 was developed specifically for the FAR 21.24 Sportplane class of the primary aircraft category and on 26 July 1994 became the first aircraft certified in that category." Sounds like it is stated there to me. - Ahunt (talk) 21:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- My main problem was that I didn't see the words "Federal Aviation Regulation". You should rewrite the sentence in question so it's more clear. As for the notability, ehh, I find it borderline, but I don't think it's too problematic. If you could just clarify the FAR in the article, I'll be fine with it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Consider it done. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 23:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks good. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Aboriginal title in California
- ... that courts have held that a Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (treaty pictured) implementation statute extinguished all tribal aboriginal title in California?
- Reviewed: Body and Brain Connection
Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Size and date OK. Very nice looking article. The hook is cited, but I'm afraid I don't understand the reference format. Note 49 has "3 F.2d 90, 91". What does this mean? I think these references need to be clearer. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I would have hoped that it was at least obvious that the written opinions from these court cases are what is cited. These are case citations, formatted according to the Bluebook. Savidan 20:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not obvious to someone who knows nothing about law. You shouldn't assume that the general reader will know this. However, if this is standard referencing, I'll leave someone else to pass or fail this - nice article. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 20:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree that no system of citation is completely obvious to those without prior knowledge of it. However, I still think the vast majority of lay readers understand, in general, that there are such things as courts and lawsuits, and that courts resolve lawsuits with written opinions. Savidan 21:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Octave Uzanne
- ... that the French writer and bibliophile Octave Uzanne (pictured) worked closely together with artists like Félicien Rops, Paul Avril and Félix Vallotton?
Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 11:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ogmore Castle Fram (talk) 11:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
The length and age are good, but the hook isn't cited, except when it comes to Rops ("One of the main artists collaborating with Uzanne was the Belgian Félicien Rops"). The other two are merely stated as illustrators of Uzanne's work, without citations, and I see the portrait of Uzanne here is by Vallotton, but we need citations for "worked closely together with". I don't think we can run with "artists like" in the hook, but that is easily taken out. Moonraker2 (talk) 12:10, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, it was more implicit than explicit in the sources I included. Perhaps
ALT1: ... that Belgian Symbolist artist Félicien Rops called French writer Octave Uzanne (pictured) "the Bibliophile's dream"?
All checks out for ALT1. Moonraker2 (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, ALT1 is better. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Little Wenham
- ... that in All Saints Church, Little Wenham, (pictured) is a brass that is said to be one of the best pre-Reformation brasses in Suffolk?
- Reviewed: AAM-A-1 Firebird
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Citation links function. Noted as Grade II* listed. Good to go.--Wetman (talk) 07:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- That's what I thought at first but it appears to have been changed. Message on your talk page.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
AAM-A-1 Firebird
... that the AAM-A-1 Firebird (pictured on DB-26) was the first air-to-air missile to be developed outside of Nazi Germany?
- Reviewed: Nevada State Route 230
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Length, date OK. Offline ref AGF. But the article says "Germany" rather than "Nazi Germany". Suggest you alter one or the other for consistency. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I changed the article to "World War II Germany" with a wl to NG. Hopefully that works? - The Bushranger One ping only 18:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Sorry to be pedantic, but of course I don't know what the source actually says, and that might be causing a difficulty. May I have a second opinion on this, please. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- The direct quote from the source is "The first post-war AAM to reach the flight-test stage outside Germany,". Perhaps this might work better? - The Bushranger One ping only 18:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the AAM-A-1 Firebird (pictured on DB-26) was the first air-to-air missile to be developed following the end of World War II?
- or
ALT2: ... that the AAM-A-1 Firebird (pictured on DB-26) was the first air-to-air missile to be developed outside Germany following the end of World War II?How about that? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Honestly, I don't like that one - it implies that air-to-air missiles had previously been developed inside Germany following the end of World War II, which was of course not the case. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
for ALT1. The problem is that I do not have the source available, and have to trust you that it actually says this (which I do). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- or
Nevada State Route 230
- ... that the east end of Nevada State Route 230 is known as the Welcome Interchange?
5x expanded by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Fact verified, expansion verified, looks good to go. As a note, this looks to be your fifth DYK; congrats! And remember that the next one will require you to QPQ review another hook under the current rules. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Justice (1954 TV series)
- ... that the 1954 NBC legal drama entitled simply Justice is based on cases of the Legal Aid Society of New York?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Edited hook to bold topic article. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:Reviewed William Wade Harris
- Clarification made Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:00, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Little Langdale
- ... that the Thing Moot (pictured) in Little Langdale was used as an open-air meeting place by Viking settlers?
Created by JMiall (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The length, date, image license, and the hook are all OK, however, you should fix the formatting of references, using Wikipedia:Citation templates. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 10
Doomsday Gun
- ... that Doomsday Gun (HBO, 2004) was the first television drama to deal with U.S. and British covert involvement with Saddam Hussein preceding the Gulf War?
5x expanded by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed Schenecker double homicide --Lexein (talk) 04:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Alan B. Slifka
- ... that Alan B. Slifka, who created the Abraham Fund Initiatives to promote coexistence of Jews and Arabs in Israel, was also the first chairman of the Big Apple Circus?
Created by Sharktopus (talk), Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Barnesville Petroglyph Sharktopustalk 00:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Imaginarium (album)
- ... that Nightwish composer and keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen said that the upcoming album Imaginarium was influenced by the works of Tim Burton, Neil Gaiman and Salvador Dalí?
- ALT1:... that a film based on the Nightwish album Imaginarium is set to be released in 2012?
Created by Secret Saturdays (talk). Nominated by Quispiam (talk) at 17:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have reviewed International Gendarmerie. [10] Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 03:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Clement-Bayard
- ... that in 1906 Albert Clément drove a Clément-Bayard (pictured) to finish third in the world's first Grand Prix?
5x expansion (Clément-Bayard) and new Creation (Albert Clément) by Chienlit (talk) 21:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Prickly Pear Cays
Schenecker double homicide
... that Florida woman Julie Powers Schenecker admitted to shooting her two children because they "talked back and were mouthy"?
--BabbaQ (talk) 14:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can I suggest a slight tweak to:
... that Florida woman Julie Powers Schenecker allegedly confessed to shooting her two children because they "talked back and were mouthy"?- Reason being BLP concerns, this is alleged. --Errant (chat!) 14:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Cited source(2nd page) supports "talked back and were mouthy", and "allegedly confessed". Length of article is OK, length of hook is OK. But I suggest this alternate to clarify "confessed because" vs "shot because"
- ALT2: ... that Florida woman Julie Powers Schenecker allegedly claimed to have shot her two children because they "talked back and were mouthy"?
- --Lexein (talk) 04:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall
- ... that St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall, Norfolk, (pictured) is notable for the quality of carving of its wooden fittings?
- Reviewed: Typhoon Rananim
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Article length & date, hook length, and hook fact all check out. Image is CC-by-SA 3.0. Sasata (talk) 06:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall, Norfolk, (pictured) is notable for the quality of its carved wooden fittings?
- Does this sound better, or is the meaning distorted? Sasata (talk) 06:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- It sounds better, and I think it probably IS better. Will accept ALT1.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Does this sound better, or is the meaning distorted? Sasata (talk) 06:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall, Norfolk, (pictured) is notable for the quality of its carved wooden fittings?
The Pennsylvania State Memorial, Eternal Light Peace Memorial, 1913 Gettysburg reunion, 1938 Gettysburg reunion
One DYK factoid drafted for the above 3 new and 1 completely rewritten wikiarticles:
- … that the largest Gettysburg Battlefield memorials, the Pennsylvania State Memorial and the Eternal Light Peace Memorial, were dedicated during encampments on the battlefield: the respective 1913 Gettysburg reunion and 1938 Gettysburg reunion held on the 50th and 75th anniversaries of the Battle of Gettysburg? Created by Target for Today (talk) 20:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Missing bolded primary article. Hook is 310 characters, 110 too many. Hook does not seem to be explicitly stated as a single item in any of the articles. Please review the rules. It may be helpful to review an entry. Suggested ALT 1, of length 197:
- "...that the Gettysburg Battlefield memorials "Pennsylvania State" and "Eternal Light Peace" were dedicated at battlefield reunion encampments on the 50th and 75th anniversaries of the Battle of Gettysburg?
- --Lexein (talk) 23:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Typhoon Rananim
- ... that Typhoon Rananim (pictured) was the strongest typhoon to strike the Chinese province of Zhejiang since 1956?
Created by Hurricanehink (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed another DYK, per the rules. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Steven Matheson
- ... that Adam Willits who played Home and Away character Steven Matheson had to film a one minute kiss scene for more than two hours because of nerves?
5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: On the Floor (song)
- Astonishingly, I'm coming up with a count just 200 characters short of a 5x expansion. For the sticklers here, I would suggest that you make the modest addition to satisfy them that it qualifies for a 5x ... I expect that will be easy enough. The hook is short enough, but should be shorter (delete either the first or second "that"). I would hyphenate one-minute.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Short by 406 characters for 5x, counted from the pre-expansion Jan 24 edit (2373 bytes) to this Feb 12 edit (11459 bytes)) using User:Dr pda/prosesizebytes.js. (2372*5) - 11459 = 406. Just add two--Lexein (talk) 01:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)souredsourced sentences.
- There we go, I've added more info so it brings it to the right amount. :)RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
5x size is now okay, assuming good faith on the plot summary, hook is ok, and properly sourced. Hyphenate "one minute". Minor grumble: I was hoping for a smidge more sourced material, since plot summaries are usually only verifiable by watching the show. --Lexein (talk) 05:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Manx2 Flight 7100
- ... that a Manx2 flight from Belfast to Cork crashed on landing, killing 6 and injuring at least 6? - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 12:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The article is a bit short of the required words at present & is still marked as a stub. It might be better to try for In The News, or wait for a bit more information to be published before nominating.— Rod talk 17:23, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Article now meets size criteria and checks out, but is still in a state of heavily being worked on. Suggest this wait a day or two before final approval. Also, suggesting alternative hook, since the original one was, honestly, rather bad. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland had planned to be aboard Manx2 Flight 7100, which crashed on landing in February 2011?
Meare Lake Village
- ... that the Iron Age Meare Lake Village was built on a peat bog on the Somerset Levels?
- Reviewed: Flight Avia Flight 7100 ([diff])
Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 11
Usos y costumbres
- ... that indigenous customary law, known as usos y costumbres, is used for local elections in Mexico and Bolivia?
5x expanded by Carwil (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
August (Fringe)
Created Ruby2010 talk 03:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cat's Cradle (film). Ruby2010 talk 04:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim no-hitters, List of Kansas City Royals no-hitters, List of Texas Rangers no-hitters, List of Houston Astros no-hitters, List of Milwaukee Brewers no-hitters, List of Florida Marlins no-hitters
- ... that the first no-hitter in franchise history for the Major League Baseball clubs Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Kansas City Royals, Texas Rangers, Houston Astros, Milwaukee Brewers and Florida Marlins were pitched by Bo Belinsky, Steve Busby, Jim Bibby, Don Nottebart, Juan Nieves and Al Leiter, respectively?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Hook is 311 characters. Too many primary (bolded) articles, and too many unrelated pitchers. The hook relies on citing baseball-reference.com, not news or book sources - an extra historical reference here would be excellent. I don't see how to shrink the existing hook to 200 characters at all, even if the source issue is addressed. Even this shrink is 227 characters:
- ... that the first no-hitters for the Major League Baseball clubs Angels, Royals, Rangers, Astros, Brewers and Marlins were pitched by Bo Belinsky, Steve Busby, Jim Bibby, Don Nottebart, Juan Nieves and Al Leiter, respectively?
Probably better as 6 separate hooks including year of first no-hitter - I think they could(?) be spread across six separate days, and still accepted (can we get consensus on this?) --Lexein (talk) 05:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)- Multi-article hooks are exempt from the hook length requirement, see C3. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Not entirely exempt, but after subtraction, the first hook comes in at 222; at that length "it may still be considered eligible if the hook is reasonably compact and readable, but such hooks will be considered on a case-by-case basis." I disagree with a DYK with a list of six unrelated teams and pitchers. Why six? Why not eight? or four? I would prefer 6 individual, more informative, 200 character hooks. Plus, there's the single-sourcing issue. For these reasons, I now defer to another editor, rather than block this. --Lexein (talk) 07:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Multi-article hooks are exempt from the hook length requirement, see C3. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- As I see it, the most basic hook would be:
- ... that the first no-hitter for the Major League Baseball club Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim was pitched by Bo Belinsky?
- I make that 116 characters. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Ron & Tammy: Part Two
- ... that comedian Nick Offerman said of filming the Parks and Recreation episode "Ron & Tammy: Part Two": "I remember there was lots of howling, and I came away very sore and scarred?"
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Lucy Cobb Institute [11] — Hunter Kahn 16:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
The Public Defender (TV series)
- ... that Reed Hadley starred in two 1950s CBS drama television series, including The Public Defender in the role of an attorney for the indigent?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Schenecker double homicide
International Gendarmerie
- ... that according to the rumours, Dutch Major Lodewijk Thomson, second-in-command of the International Gendarmerie in Albania, was killed by Italian sniper on June 15, 1914, during attack of peasant rebels on Durrës?
- Reviewed: A Human Right
Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Hook and ref verified. I believe it's ready to go. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 03:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Hold on -Minor grammar correction, change language to accomodate new source, and length reduction to 200 characters:
- ALT 1: ... that according to sources, Dutch Major Lodewijk Thomson, second-in-command of the International Gendarmerie in Albania, was probably killed by an Italian sniper on 15 June 1914, in a peasant rebel attack on Durrës?
- (The claim in the article was singly-sourced to an archive of a personal website, which claimed "rumours" and lacked an inline citation, though other paragraphs cite two unavailable, unverifiable German books. I've added a source, which cites "analysis" in another unavailable book source, but claims "probable".) I suggest ALT 1. Another editor, please re-review. --Lexein (talk) 06:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you Lexein for providing the additional source. I agree with ALT 1.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Charles Blackader
- ... that Charles Blackader survived three years on the Western Front in the First World War, only to be invalided home after being licked by a rabid dog?
- Reviewed: Minuscule 826 (Gregory-Aland)
- Comment: Two alternate hooks, both Irish-history focused; they may work better, but it partly depends whether or not you like a single sizable quote in DYK.
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Charles Blackader, who sentenced Patrick Pearse to death after the Easter Rising in 1916, called him "one of the finest characters I have ever come across"?
- ALT2: ... that Charles Blackader, who sentenced Patrick Pearse to death after the Easter Rising in 1916, called it "one of the hardest tasks I have ever had to do"?
Malaya Sadovaya Street
- ... that in 1881 a tunnel was dug under St. Petersburg's shortest street, Malaya Sadovaya Street, as part of a Narodnik plot to assassinate Czar Alexander II?
Created by User:Herostratus (User talk:Herostratus). Self nom at 19:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
I (Herostratus) reviewed Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, a Feb. 7 article.
Sergiu Dan
- ... that Romanian novelist Sergiu Dan survived a 1940s deportation to Transnistria, spoke of it in one of the few local contributions to Holocaust literature, and was later imprisoned by the communist regime?
- Comment: Reviewed Jane Williams ([12])
Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Juliusz Słowacki
- ... that Polish poet Juliusz Słowacki is one of the Three Bards of Polish literature?
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Luobi Cave. Word count tells me it should be a ~5x expansion, I hope you agree :) As this is a very much core subject for Poland, I'd ask for a featured hook position (first place), with an image. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
If you want your hook featured, then you need to add alt and rollover text to the image line. Without that, the picture will never be run. This diff has a prose size of 3374 B, so you need 16.87 kB for a 5x expansion. It currently stands at 15 kB. Can you write a bit more? Schwede66 17:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- I added the alt/rollover text and expended the article. If this is insufficient, please ping me on my talk page, I intend to keep expanding it further over the next few days. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Cholula, Puebla
- ... that the neighborhoods of the city of Cholula, Puebla in Mexico have a complicated system for sponsoring its many religious festivals?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Handel Festival, Halle
Vidyasagar Setu
- ... that the Vidyasagar Setu (pictured) is the longest cable-stayed bridge in India, and was built over the course of twenty years?
- Reviewed: Stationary High Altitude Relay Platform
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Jujutacular (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Added an img.--Nvvchar. 22:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Stationary High Altitude Relay Platform
- ... that the SHARP aircraft was a sort of low-altitude communications satellite in the form of an electrically powered airplane?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, and hook check out, but have you reviewed another DYK nom? Jujutacular talk 21:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed article below. Very cool! Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can we get a consistent citation style? Matsumoto should be the only entry in the bibliography. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Done, and also linked the PopSci article. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can we get a consistent citation style? Matsumoto should be the only entry in the bibliography. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Pinocchio paradox
- ... that Pinocchio's sentence "My nose grows now", (pictured) could be neither true nor false, which means his nose grows if, and only if, it does not grow?
- Alt1 ... that Pinocchio's sentence "My nose grows now", (pictured) could be neither true nor false, which means his nose grows if, and only if, it does not grow?
- Reviewed: Gabe Carimi
Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
All checks out. I took the liberty of tidying the hook slightly. Moonraker2 (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
The hook is incorrect. The paradox arises from a statement, not a fact. Petergans (talk) 07:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
All checks out for current hook. Moonraker2 (talk) 15:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
The hook is still incorrect. To quote from the article lead-in the liar paradox consists of the statement "This sentence is false." The link has the form "this sentence is true". The underlying problem with the link is that the paradox arises only because Pinocchio is a known liar, which means that any statement he makes might be true or false. Petergans (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is wrong. If Pinocchio said any other sentence for example: "I am getting sick", then, it could have been either true or false,but Pinocchio's sentence "My nose grows now" can be neither truth nor false hence, this and only this sentence creates the paradox. Here's the exact quote from the source "Pinocchio’s nose grows if and only if (iff) what he is stating is false, and Pinocchio says ‘My nose is growing’. So, Pinocchio’s nose is growing iff it is not growing.", from which the hook was taken. This is described in this section of the article. It also explains why Pinocchio's sentence although creates the Liar paradox, is different from an usual Liar paradox because it is not semantic. --Mbz1 (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- In that case a better hook might be "The Pinocchio paradox is different from the liar paradox because it does not depend on semantics".Petergans (talk) 08:23, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Disagree. The source clearly states that the Pinocchio Paradox "is clearly a version of the Liar.". I did add mention about semantic to the lead.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- In that case a better hook might be "The Pinocchio paradox is different from the liar paradox because it does not depend on semantics".Petergans (talk) 08:23, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Either it "is different from an usual Liar paradox because it is not semantic" or "is clearly a version of the Liar." (both quotes above). I give up. I will not comment further. Petergans (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- There's no need for the red font. I could read black one very good :-)Back to the point. It is my understanding that your objections now is only about the hook linking to Liar paradox. Although I believe it is an absolutely valid link because the Pinocchio paradox is the Liar paradox, I came up with an alternative hook just above, in which I removed the link to Liar Paradox. I do hope that now, you could go ahead and remove your objections.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Very interesting article, the hook is exactly as it is in the source. Good to go.--Broccolo (talk) 23:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Richard Smith (silent film director)
- ... that Richard Smith directed the Marx Brothers in their first film, Humor Risk?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I reviewed the article Techno Viking. -- Cirt (talk) 16:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Date and length verified. Hook refs confirm that Humor Risk is the Marx Brothers' first film, but I could not find mention of Richard Smith in any of the three. KimChee (talk) 04:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, for verifying the date and length. The hook refs confirm all of the cited hook. The relevant quote is from the source, Koszarski 2008, p. 93, quote = "the first film, Humor Risk, had been completed, directed by Dick Smith from a script by Jo Swerling". I have added that quote directly into the citation for the source, diff. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 07:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Balancing Rocks
- ... that popularity of Balancing Rocks formation grew when the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe featured it on certain issues of Zimbabwean banknotes (pictured), including the current series?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Cajetan J. B. Baumann. --Nvvchar. 02:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Gabe Carimi
- ... that Gabe Carimi, who is expected to be picked in the first round of the 2011 NFL Draft, fasted for Yom Kippur until an hour before game-time his freshman year of college?
- Reviewed: Steven Matheson
- 5x expanded by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
5X extension, the hook, references are verified. Good to go.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Barnesville Petroglyph
- ... that the Barnesville Petroglyph is unusual because its human faces have noses?
7x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Writing this article has taken almost all of my Wikipedia time today, so I'm not yet able to review another article; please don't reject this nomination unless you find other problems with the article. By my count, the article had 891 characters before I started versus 6951 now. I'm hoping to expand it more with some other sources before long. Nyttend (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Never mind, I have less to do than I thought. Reviewed Aboriginal title in California and Harry Lonsdale. Nyttend (talk) 14:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Good hook, article meets DYK rules for length, timing, citation. A really nice article with a lot of useful cross-references. Sharktopustalk 00:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Adalbert Schneider
- ... that Adalbert Schneider was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross for the sinking of HMS Hood on 24 May 1941 in the Battle of the Denmark Strait?
5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
, Good to go, Offline sources accepted per WP:AGF. HerkusMonte (talk) 13:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Uranate
... that all uranium(VI) uranate structures are based on UOn polyhedra sharing oxygen atoms in an infinite lattice?
5x expanded by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Very intriguing work. I'm not sure it's totally accessable to the lay reader, though - what is "uranium(VI)" as opposed to normal uranium? And what is "UOn"? - The Bushranger One ping only 06:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Maybe a more accessible hook, e.g. ALT1 .. that uranates have been used to add various colors to glass (example pictured)? [13] Materialscientist (talk) 07:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Template_talk:Did_you_know#Pinocchio_paradox. Petergans (talk) 07:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks good to me, ALT1 approved. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
ASM-N-5 Gorgon V
- ... that during the 1950s, the United States Navy intended to use Gorgons to deliver chemical weapons?
- Reviewed: St Albans by-election, 1904
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
You have sourced your hook to a personal website by Parsch, who is not an acknowledged expert in this area, and so is not acceptable as a reliable source. However, Parsch cites sources which may be acceptable. Can you source your hook with one of these? --Epipelagic (talk) 04:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- This has been queried twice before, and the consensus is that designation-systems.net is, indeed, a reliable source. Parsch is an acknowledged expert in the fields of designation systems and missiles, and has been published as such, including both by Jane's and the well-known Osprey books. See [14] and the discussion at Template talk:Did you know#JB-4. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Good. Okay to go! --Epipelagic (talk) 04:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Cajetan J. B. Baumann
- ... that Brother Cajetan J. B. Baumann (1899-1969) was the first member of a religious order to ever be named to the American Institute of Architects?
Created by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and hook reference verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 02:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hikmat al-Shihabi and Ali Duba
- ... that while Syrian President Hafez al-Assad was ill in 1983, Hikmat al-Shihabi, chief of staff of the Syrian Army, and Ali Duba, head of the Military Intelligence, were part of an interim ruling committee?
Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Ardhanarishvara, [15] Yazan (talk) 13:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Article and hook look fine–most of the article is cited to an offline source, but I can AGF on that. Qrsdogg (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
for the double hook. Materialscientist (talk) 11:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Luobi Cave
- ... that in the 1990s Luobi Cave near Sanya, Hainan, China yielded the oldest evidence of human settlement in Hainan, as well as China's most southern occurrence of Upper Paleolithic era stone tools?
Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Justice (1954 TV series) Diff Philg88 (talk) 22:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Non-English language sources accepted in good faith. It would be nice to get English language and/or academic sources, but it is not necessary for a DYK. Date, size, hook, check out. I linked Hainan in the hook. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 12
Jan Sviták
- ... that the Czech film director Jan Sviták was killed shortly after the liberation of Prague in 1945?
- Reviewed: Template_talk:Did_you_know#Little Langdale ([16])
Created by Vejvančický (talk), Haploidavey (talk). Self nom at 10:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
, AGF for offline Czech sources. HerkusMonte (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Mashpee Tribe v. New Seabury
- ... that Mashpee Tribe v. New Seabury was the first tribal Nonintercourse Act lawsuit to go to a jury?
- Reviewed: Megaphone (molecule)
Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
List of Washington Nationals no-hitters
- ... that every no-hitter in franchise history for the Washington Nationals Major League Baseball club was thrown by a pitcher wearing an Expos uniform back when the team was based in Montreal, Canada?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
List of Seattle Mariners no-hitters, List of Arizona Diamondbacks no-hitters
- ... that the first no-hitter in franchise history for the Major League Baseball clubs Seattle Mariners and Arizona Diamondbacks were both pitched by Randy Johnson (pictured) fourteen seasons apart?
Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Nielluccio
- ... that while Nielluccio is sometimes described as indigenous to Corsica, the grape may have actually came to the island from Genoa and could really just be a clone of Sangiovese (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Our Lady of Vilnius Church (New York City)
- Comment: Primary refs are in the History section and while mostly offline, I think I provided enough online refs there and in the lead to assist with verification
5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Size, date, etc. check out fine. Good job! And don't forget to archive with online refs with something like WebCite, just in case. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Supreme Council of the Armed Forces
- ... that Field Marshal Mohamed Hussein Tantawi (pictured), who leads Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, was formerly defence minister under President Hosni Mubarak?
Created by Ekem (talk), Sundostund (talk). Nominated by The Celestial City (talk) at 17:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Ernest Lafont. The Celestial City (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Everything is OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Lucy Cobb Institute
- ... that from 1859 to 1931 the Lucy Cobb Institute in Athens, Georgia, taught "orthodox southern moral and racial values" to young Southern girls?
Created by LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 14:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed St Mary's Church, Islington, Norfolk. Drmies (talk) 17:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Countess Leon
- ... that a woman immigrant from Frankfurt, the Countess Leon (her house pictured), founded the communal Germantown Colony established in 1835 in Webster Parish, Louisiana?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed: Clematis morefieldii
Off-line source accepted in good faith. Calistemon (talk) 15:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Kepler-9b
- ... that Kepler-9b's "year" increases by four days every time it completes an orbit?
5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: NECA Project. --Starstriker7(Talk) 16:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Clematis morefieldii
- ... that Morefield's leather flower (pictured) was first discovered in a vacant lot in 1982 by a 21-year-old botany student?
- Reviewed: Myotis escalerai
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Myotis escalerai
- ... that the bat Myotis escalerai was first recorded in France in 2009?
- Reviewed: Chengdu Pterodactyl 1
Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hook verified, length & date good, ready for DYK. IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 23:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
New Allegiances
- ... that "New Allegiances", the series seven premiere of the British television series Spooks, was partially filmed on location in Moscow, Russia, the first time in series history where filming took place outside the United Kingdom?
- Reviewed: Christian Wilhelm Franz Walch
Created by Matthew R Dunn (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Islington, Norfolk
- ... that the ruined Church of St Mary (pictured) in Islington, Norfolk, has retained roofs only on its tower and chancel?
- Reviewed: James Learmonth
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Tony Burrello
- ... that Tony Burrello's single "There's a New Sound" was described by Billboard magazine as "a studied attempt to be as screwy as possible", but went on to sell over 100,000 copies?
- Reviewed: Clare Taylor
- Comment: The article is currently at AfD.
5x expanded by Metropolitan90 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Akenham
- ... that legal action following the burial of a two-year old child in the churchyard of St Mary's Church (pictured) in Akenham, Suffolk, led to a change in the law in 1880?
- Reviewed: Cladonia perforata
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Edgar Lubbock
- ... that Master of the Blankney Hunt, Edgar Lubbock (pictured) played in four FA Cup Finals, twice on the winning side?
- Reviewed: Aslie Pitter
Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
I have bolded Blankney Hunt in the hook as a new article, although I'm not sure that it's long enough. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Tesem
- ... that the dog breed the Tesem appears on monuments and in wall paintings of the Ancient Egyptians?
- Reviewed: Space policy of the United States
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Article size, text, sources and images check out. Resolute 19:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Batman River
- ... that the air base of Batman was used for rescue operations during the Gulf War?[17]
- Comment: ALT1 ... that the largest oil field in Turkey lies in the Batman Province, near the Batman River? [18]
We've got 4 expanded Batman articles (city, province, river and oil field). They could be squeezed into one hook, but it would be ugly, thus maybe 2-3 hoooks. Please suggest other alts (articles can be shuffled between various hook combinations). Maybe its better to drop the river from ALT1. The "near" part can be verified using this map and Google maps - it is just some 6 km away. Materialscientist (talk) 10:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Some possible April Fools' Day hooks. 2 is for the province, 3 is the river, and 4 is the city. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Batman is half female?
- ALT3 ...
that Batman killed 11 people in 2006?
- Thanks and sorry - the source is unclear whether it was Batman or its tributary or both. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that Batman was in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines?
Cladonia perforata
- ... that the Florida perforate cladonia (pictured) was the first lichen to be added to the United States' endangered species list?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 07:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:00, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
SSM-A-5 Boojum
- ... that the SSM-A-3 Snark and SSM-A-5 Boojum cruise missiles were named after beasts from Lewis Carroll's nonsense poem The Hunting of the Snark?
- Reviewed: Uranate
Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
James Learmonth
- ... that Sir James Rögnvald Learmonth was knighted in King George VI's bedroom after performing nerve surgery for his vascular disease?
- Reviewed: Vetka and Sozh. [19] Carcharoth (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Created by Carcharoth (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Date, length OK. Hook checked in the ODNB (I am a subscriber) and is correct. Fascinating hook! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Marshall JCM800
- ... that the Marshall JCM800 series of amplifiers, used by many hard rock and heavy metal bands of the 1980s, owes its name to the owner's initials and his license plate?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Ali Aslan
- ... that former Syrian chief of staff Ali Aslan was considered the "operational brain" of the Syrian Army during the 1990s?
Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Ismail El Shafei
- ... that Ismail El Shafei is the only Egyptian Tennis player to enter Top 40 in Grand Prix/ATP ranking history?
5x expanded by Essam Sharaf (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Cat's Cradle (film)
- ... that Stan Brakhage described his 1959 film Cat's Cradle as "sexual witchcraft involving two couples and a 'medium' cat"?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: St Mary's Church, Akenham, Ackatsis (talk)
Articles created/expanded on February 13
Nasuella
- ... that mountain coatis, a genus of small carnivorans from the Andes, were considered to represent a single species, until a second species was recognized in 2009?
- Comment: Non-self-nom, so no review necessary.
5x expanded by 212.10.88.103 (talk). Nominated by Ucucha (talk) at 12:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Geology of Uruguay
- ... that Uruguay suffered intensive volcanism during the Cretaceous about 130 million years ago?
Created by Dentren (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Stephen Herbits
Cedric Wright
- ... that Cedric Wright accompanied his best friend Ansel Adams when three of Adams's most famous photographs were taken?
Created by Cullen328 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Dexter Walker
- ... that Home and Away actor Charles Cottier is embarrassed in real life because his character Dexter Walker falls in love with older women?
Created by AcidBrights (talk). Nominated by Raintheone (talk) at 02:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Quebec (ice hockey)
- ... that after the Montreal Canadiens lost to their provincial rivals, the Quebec Nordiques, in the 1982 NHL playoffs, Quebec's beer consumption fell by 9.5 percent the next month?
- Reviewed: Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award ([21])
Created/expanded by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks good, everything checks out! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Seneb
- ... that the dwarf Seneb (sculpture pictured) overcame his diminutive size to become a high-ranking royal official in ancient Egypt, marry a priestess and own thousands of cattle?
Created by Prioryman (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC).
Mary Frances Winston Newson
- ... that Mary Frances Winston Newson was the first American woman to be awarded a PhD in mathematics from a European university and the first person to translate into English the famous lecture first presenting Hilbert's Problems?
Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award
- ... that prior to the creation of the King Clancy Memorial Trophy, the Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award was presented to a National Hockey League player who made outstanding community service contributions?
Created by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Tesem. Resolute 19:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, and hook fact all check out. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Just looked again, and there is a problem that should be addressed: the hook itself is just over 200 characters. Perhaps the abbreviated version of National Hockey League should be used, as that would save more than enough characters. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- That could work, but would remove context for someone who doesn't know what the NHL is. Alternatively, the Clancy award could be dropped: "...that between 1969 and 1984, the Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award was presented to a National Hockey League player who made outstanding community service contributions?" Resolute 02:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Charles Edward Hubbard
- ... that Charles Edward Hubbard was "the world authority on the classification and recognition of grasses"?
- Reviewed: Megaphone (molecule) ([22])
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- The ref which states that Hubbard was "the world authority..." was published by Hubbard's employer. Is this a problem? --PFHLai (talk) 03:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see why it should be. Kew Bulletin is a well-respected journal and the author was a well-respected botanist; I don't imagine the RBG would use an obituary published there as mere propaganda. In fact, it seems like the natural place for the obituary of a high-ranking Kew botanist. (But then I'm biased, because I wrote the article!) --Stemonitis (talk) 07:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Lake Way
- ... that the Centipede–Lake Way project, located at Lake Way, is scheduled to become Western Australia's second uranium mine by 2013?
Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Countess Leon
Megaphone (molecule)
- ... that megaphone can be crystallized from an ether-chloroform solution?
Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Date of expansion and degree of expansion are fine. The offline references look like they will be acceptable (assuming good faith), but it will need a direct inline citation, rather than one at the end of the paragraph. --Stemonitis (talk) 16:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Reviewed Hikmat al-Shihabi and Ali Duba. Materialscientist (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Ready to go.Savidan 03:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Domaine Raveneau
- ... that when wine importer Kermit Lynch tried to contact Domaine Raveneau to import their wine to the United States, they hung up on him?
Created by Camw (talk), Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Article length and date check out, hook checks out, AGF ref. J04n(talk page) 04:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Up'n Down
- ... that due to the sound tunings of the Atari 2600, its port of the 1983 arcade game Up'n Down transformed the background music from a "bluesy F-sharp minor groove" into "a very unsettling version based in C minor"?
5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Marshall JCM800 [23] 28bytes (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I know the hook is a couple characters longer than 200, but I'm hoping it's close enough for an OK. :) 28bytes (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Interesting. I think you need to change the wording, emphasizing on the transformation of the music quality and the fact that the music becomes so bad in Atari that it was criticized as having an annoying background music. Your current wording is a bit confusing.--Rochelimit (talk) 10:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- How about this:
ALT1: ... that when the 1983 arcade game Up'n Down was ported to the Atari 2600, its "bluesy" background music was replaced with "a very unsettling version" due to limitations in the 2600's sound capabilities?
The Dante Quartet
- ... that the visions of Hell depicted in The Dante Quartet were inspired by the Divine Comedy and director Stan Brakhage’s breakup with his wife?
Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that The Dante Quartet, an eight-minute experimental film, took six years to produce? Ackatsis (talk) 03:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Krishan Kumar
Singa (mythology)
- ... that the mythical Singa (pictured), meaning "lion", doesn't resemble any known lions?
- Reviewed: Template_talk:Did_you_know#Up.27n_Down
5x expanded by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 10:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Muhammad Mustafa Mero
- ... that in July 2003, amidst improving ties, Muhammad Mustafa Mero became the first Syrian prime minister to visit neighboring Turkey in 17 years?
- Reviewed: Singa (mythology) ([24])
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 15:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Body and Brain Connection
- ... that The Daily Telegraph's Tom Hoggins stated that Body and Brain Connection created a new video game genre called "mathercise", a portmanteau of the words math and exercise?
- Reviewed: Muhammad Mustafa Mero ([25])
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Expansion and fact confirmed. Savidan 03:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 14
Joachim Meichssner
- ... that Colonel Joachim Meichssner refused to kill Hitler in a suicide attack because he could not bear the stress of waiting?
- Reviewed: Jan Sviták
Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder
- ... that people who suffer from Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder are unable to feel pleasure from an orgasm?
- Reviewed: Battle of Quebec (ice hockey)
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Stephen Herbits
- ... that Stephen Herbits spent three years as Secretary General of the World Jewish Congress?
Created by Disseminated (talk). Nominated by CharlieEchoTango (talk) at 07:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Old Orchard Street Theatre
- ... that the Old Orchard Street Theatre in Bath, was built as a provincial theatre before becoming a Roman Catholic Church and since 1865 a Masonic Hall?
- Reviewed: SSM-A-5 Boojum
Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 11:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
1973 Soviet economic reform
- ... that the 1973 Soviet economic reform initiated by Alexei Kosygin (pictured), the Chairman of the Council of Ministers, tried to reduce the powers of the central Ministries?
Created by TIAYN (talk) 13:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder --TIAYN (talk) 13:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Behavior Genetics Association
- ... that Theodosius Dobzhanski was the first president of the Behavior Genetics Association?
- ALT1:... that Glayde Whitney's presidential address on the possible genetic roots of the relationship between race and crime caused a stir at the 1995 annual meeting of the Behavior Genetics Association?
- Reviewed: Rule 90
5x expanded by Crusio (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Architonnerre
- ... that , a steam powered cannon, the Architonnerre, was described by Leonardo da Vinci in the 15th century but he attributed it to Archimedes of the 3rd century BC?
Created/expanded by Lumos3 (talk). Nominated by Lumos3 (talk) at 15:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Text in block quotes doesn't count toward prose size (see Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules A2). That's the majority of your text, though. So you'd need to significantly increase the length of the article before it meets DYK length criteria. Also, I recommend that you use templates like this one, as that makes sure that you get the nomination right (it explains, for example, what alt text is, which is missing from your nomination). Schwede66 17:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Ali Farzat
- ... that Syrian political cartoonist Ali Farzat's 1989 exhibition at the Arab World Institute in Paris brought on him a death threat from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein?
- Reviewed: August (Fringe) ([27])
Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
20 February, Septuagesima
Nimm, was dein ist, und gehe hin, BWV 144
- ... that Bach's cantata for Septuagesimae 1724, Nimm, was dein ist, und gehe hin, BWV 144, is based on the Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard (pictured)?
Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- suggested for 6 February, date of the first performance. Reviewed: #Carex lutea --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- perhaps even better on 20 February, Septugesima of 2011, because Easter is so late. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- The Bach cantata for the Sunday is nominated above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
23 February, Birthday of Handel
Handel Festival Halle
... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival, Halle?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- for 23 February, Handel's birthday, for which the article was requested. Howard Arman was expanded, but not 5x. - reviewed: Hamaxitus --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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- The older one is called Göttingen International Handel Festival (but you would not find it looking for Handel), also Handel Festival Göttingen. The third one in Germany: Karlsruhe. Talking about the Bach cantatas we went for "the least cluttered". If you have a comma in the name, you have to remember to add one after the apposition. The festival could be called just Handel Festival, because it seems to be The Handel Festival, but that would probably cause trouble in Göttingen and Karlsruhe, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- forget all that, was moved, not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- In this case (tempted to say The Handel Festival),
- ALT1:
... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival in Halle, where the composer was born on 23 February 1685? - Reviewed article appeared already, link changed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
There are paragraphs lacking inline citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- refs and info added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please check the 2nd, 5th and last paragraphs. If its separated by a space from another paragraph, it needs a citation.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- They were separated for clarity, now I moved them together or postponed, for formality. The article was originally translated from de - without any sources given but a book. I trust that the still unreferenced details are in the book. I could drop them but think they might be of interest to some readers. The prize details are in the respective de-article, the opera details in the opera-articles. - Please also consider Mr. Arman - who was up for deletion - as a 2*BLP expansion in:
- ALT2:... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival in Halle, where the composer was born on 23 February 1685? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
OK good to go for either hook.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Are we saving the hook for use on 23 February
16852011? --PFHLai (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)- Sounds reasonable to me. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Moved then, prefer ALT2, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Therefore crossed out the others and added DYKmake, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
28 February
Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence
- ... that the Greeks living in southern Albania declared in 1914 the Independence (pictured) of Northern Epirus?
Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Lam Chiu Ying.Alexikoua (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Interesting and clear. Length and date verified. One source in German accepted in good faith. Good to go. Aridd (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please hold. This article seems to be a content fork of the existing Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus, and has POV problems. See talk page.--Brunswick Dude (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
March 1
Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival
- ... that in the 2010 Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival, the 600 guests ate approximately 30,000 strips of bacon?
Created by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Casper the Commuting Cat,Casper (cat) hereWorm 16:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'd suggest mentioning Iowa in the hook, and save it for National Pig Day on March 1st. --PFHLai (talk) 06:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- ALT... that during the 2010 Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival in Des Moines, Iowa, the 600 guests ate approximately 30,000 strips of bacon?
June 19
Rizal Day
- ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?
Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive [1][2] after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Halloween
Rhacophorus vampyrus
- ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?
Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
See also
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