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Articles created/expanded on January 27

Tourism in Åland

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Three of the four sources go to Visit Aland, which is pretty much a primary source, since it is "Åland's official tourist and member organisation". And the final source is just an Excel spreadsheet with statistics on it. While i'm sure that the subject is notable, I am pretty much considering the article to be unreferenced at this point. If you wish for this DYK to go through, please find actual reliable sources on the subject. SilverserenC 01:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting argument, although that page comes from the government of the Åland Islands - and the final source comes from the official statistics office of the government of the Åland Islands. The day we start regarding government statistics as unreliable is the day I retire from Wikipedia :D Arctic Night 02:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think i'm going to need someone else to give a second opinion on this then, since, yes, it is from a government website, but i'm not sure what the rules are for an article sourced entirely to primary sources. Primary sources are allowed, obviously, but I thought there had to also be secondary coverage involved. I'll ask on the DYK talk page for some answers on that. SilverserenC 02:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since we're now discarding sources published by the Government of the Åland Islands as 'unreliable', I have gone ahead and added some secondary sources to the article - in fact, almost all of the statements on the article now have a secondary source supporting it. These include books, non-government web sites, etc. Arctic Night 17:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The original reviewer has declined to revisit this one. I'd appreciate a second set of eyes. Thanks, Arctic Night 01:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've removed my review symbol. Can someone else please review this? SilverserenC 06:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I should add that the original reviewer's concerns regarding secondary sourcing have now been addressed, as far as I can tell. Everything else seems OK - just waiting on another reviewer to take a look. Arctic Night 11:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would argue that the second source is not independent of the subject itself as a tourism organization. Can you find a source that is not somehow related to Åland, its government, or its tourist industry to support the claim? Interestingly enough, a quick google search of "+Åland sunshine" gives only the government/tourism website results, plus a bunch of other sites parroting the same claims word-for-word, and a bunch of unrelated news articles and sites, which makes me wonder if it's not just a publicity gimmick. A meteorological source would be nice. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 10:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Muk. While the government tourism board is a valid source for describing the sunshine as an attraction to the island, the exact claim that the islands "having more sunshine hours per year than anywhere else in Scandinavia" is actually a strong scientific claim that should have been derived from some scientific climate study that would have been published in a reliable source like a journal press list. Someone had to have measured and determined this fact. Who? AgneCheese/Wine 22:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest we move away from the sunshine fact. Can the nominator please provide a different hook? Schwede66 00:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism in Abkhazia

  • ... that despite it being illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government, the territory's Black Sea beaches continue to attract tourists?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Great article, interesting--but that hook, I think, needs better sourcing. This article has 1992-1993 numbers (just over 200,000) and the claim that tourism now is almost back to normal. This article does make the 300,000 claim, but that's hardly a reliable source (and it's in terrible English, also not a confidence booster). I don't think that the 300,000 number is verifiably certain at all, and would propose tweaking or changing the hook. Drmies (talk) 02:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks! I've reworded the hook to make the 'success' of tourism more of a general thing. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Besides, it would be nice for the hook to clarify that it is illegal under the laws of Georgia (a country that has no de facto authority in Abkhazia) for foreigners to enter the country, not under the laws of Abkhazia. Ucucha 02:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added 'technically', although since de jure Georgia does have sovereignty over Abkhazia, I don't think any further elaboration is necessary. Arctic Night 03:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the governments of Abkhazia and Russia would disagree that it is even "technically" illegal; they'll say that Georgia has no business at all prohibiting people from Abkhazia. Besides, it's not illegal even under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia, as long as the Georgian government is informed. Ucucha 03:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heh, let's not turn this into a debate over who has the right to control Abkhazia! I've clarified the wording of the hook to leave no doubt that it's under Georgian law under certain circumstances. Arctic Night 03:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't want to debate that either; my point is that such a debate is possible and bypassing the issue is not neutral. I have no problems with the new wording of the hook. Ucucha 12:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not sure the hook is actually correct. As far as I know entering Abkhazia is not illegal under Georgian law, as Abkhazia is considered a part of Georgia. But what is illegal is interacting with the Abkhaz government, i.e. getting your passport stamped. It is perfectly possible and as far as I know legal to cross from Georgia into Abkhazia, as long as you avoid a passport stamp. There is no Georgian passport control at the Gali border. In fact, crossing from Russia into Abkhazia and then into Georgia is not possible, as you would illegaly enter Georgia, i.e. without any Georgian passport control. Pantherskin (talk) 13:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Georgian Interior Ministry proclaimed "visiting Abkhazia and South Ossetia without the knowledge of the Georgian authorities" as a criminal offense in late August." - this is directly from the source cited in the article. As far as I can see, it is illegal for foreigners to enter Abkhazia under Georgian law. Arctic Night 19:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indeed, the source cited quite clearly states that Georgia has prohibited visits to either of the two breakaway states without the knowledge of the Georgian government. Unless you (Pantherskin) have a better source, we'll have to stick with that. Ucucha 20:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

() *Thanks Ucucha - is anybody willing to actually put a tick on this one now? It's been sitting here at the nomination stage for quite a while... Arctic Night 15:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The state-owned RIA Novosti is probably the worst possible source for such claims about Georgian legislation, give the history of misinformation and propaganda when it comes to Georgia. See for example [3] for a description of what the actual rules are, or similar the travel warning of the UK [4]. There are unfortunately some other issues too - the warning of increased crime for example is more than seven years old, as the source was published in 2003, even before the Rose Revolution. Not clear at all from the article that this is historical information. Pantherskin (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...history of misinformation and propaganda..." - really? 'Misinformation and propaganda' are fairly strong words. In fact, the source you gave ([5]) actually supports the hook - thank you! It states exactly what the article does. Arctic Night 22:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a matter of fact, I think Pantherskin may well be right. His sources state that Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. The hook fact (that it is illegal for anyone to enter Abkhazia without permission from the Georgian government) is different, and seems less plausible to me. Ucucha 23:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • [6], Quote: "The original version of this article wrongly stated that Georgian law does not allow foreigners to enter South Ossetia or Abkhazia." Pantherskin (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • And here is a translation of the law [7]. Probably an official translation as it is published on the webpage of the Georgian parliament. See clause 4. Pantherskin (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pantherskin - again, that source supports the hook - "a jail term of up to four years for foreigners who enter the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia using checkpoints that are not controlled by Georgian authorities." Arctic Night 18:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I give up. What the law and the other sources say is quite obviously different from what the hook says. It seems that this is just another example of how misguided the whole Wikicup is, if factual accuracy is less important than getting this article on the main page. Pantherskin (talk) 19:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook: illegal under Georgian law for foreigners to enter Abkhazia without notifying the Georgian government. Claimed to prove the hook is wrong: Georgia has prohibited people from entering Abkhazia (or South Ossetia) from Russia, because that would mean entering Georgian territory without going through a Georgian border checkpoint, and therefore entering Georgia illegally. I...honestly utterly fail to see the difference between these two statements, and/or how the second proves the first wrong? It appears to me that the first is just a simple way of saying the second - since it's illegal to enter Abkhazia from Russia, since that would involve entering without passing through a Georgian checkpoint, therefore it's illegal to enter Abkhazia without the Georgian government being aware, yes? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • No. Notifying is not the same as crossing a border and showing a passport. And once you have entered Georgia, say via Tbilisi airport you can visit Abkhazia and the Georgian government will not be aware of this visit (because you neither required to notify them nor is there a passport control in Gali/Zugdidi). Pantherskin (talk) 19:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, I see the point...in that case, this should probably get a until a revised hook is provided (assuming the article doesn't make the same claim as well...). - The Bushranger One ping only 19:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle)

Created by Tintor2 (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified creation date (formerly a redirect page.) Length is good. Suggested alt:
ALT1:... that Syaoran, the main protagonist in the Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle manga series ends up becoming one of the main antagonists?
The reference for the character's being an antagonist is in Japanese, which I'm willing to accept in good faith, but there is no direct inline citation to support the claim of his initial status as a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 09:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply. I was on a wikibreak. He is referred as one of the protagonists by Clamp in creation as well as in most reception sources such as this one and this one. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Syaoran and Sakura were chosen to be the series' protagonist because their Cardcaptor Sakura counterparts had a "happy ending", but Clamp pointed they would have to go throughout the series to get their "own happy ending"."→ This sentence has no inline reference, and other than the lead, is the only mention of his being a protagonist. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 00:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence is actually referenced by number 2. But does his role has to be mentioned in every part from the article?Tintor2 (talk) 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The citation in question is following the next sentence. The rules for DYK need that the sentences that state the fact(s) mentioned in the hook must specifically have an inline citation. So the sentence I mentioned in my previous comment specifically needs a citation. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 12:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done.Tintor2 (talk) 12:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 30

Sigur Plateau

Working elephant at Theppakadu Elephant camp

Created by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Switched image_Marcus334 (Talk) 19:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The abbreviated form of citations needs to be expanded so that the reader can identify them.--Wetman (talk) 05:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moved full reference to its first mention, so
16. ^R. Sundararaju, p. 3 and other R. Sundararaju references are easily identified with:
4. ^R. Sundararaju, I.F.S., Chairman of the experts committee, Principal Chief Conservator of Forests & Chief Wildlife Warden, (2009-10-13), REPORT OF THE EXPERT COMMITTEE FORMED IN PURSUANCE OF THE DIRECTION OF THE HON'BLE HIGH COURT IN W.P.NO.10098/2008, 2762 & 2839 of 2009., Chennai: Tamil Nadu Forest Department, p. 6, retrieved 2011-1-28
Repitition of full reference for diferent pages of same source is not necessary.
Just go to first citation, clik link and scroll to page indicated.
Otherwise I misunderstood meaning of 'expanded' above and specific clarification needed-Marcus334 (Talk) 01:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sunny South (clipper)

  • X ... that the Sunny South (also called Emanuela or Manuela), captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?

Created by Djembayz (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny South (clipper) was not linked in hook. I fixed it
First fact improperly referenced. Neither fact can be confirmed without hard copy. It's a well known book. Someone should be able to check.-Marcus334 (Talk) 06:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Original hook, at 232 characters, is over the 200 limit. ALT1 is 198. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest ship sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade?
  • Thanks for help-- corrections are needed. Should have waited till the next day and looked it over! Chappelle is not available online but is a standard book. If you can work the name "Manuela" into the DYK, it seems to be the second most commonly found form.
  • Corrected version: ... that the Sunny South, captured in 1860 with a cargo of over 800 slaves, was considered the fastest slaver sailing out of Havana, and one of three American-built clipper ships in the 1850s slave trade? Djembayz (talk) 04:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Commented on Chautla Hacienda. I have less than 5 DYK; still getting up to speed on all this.

There are several paragraphs/lines which lack citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Point one: I have added citations, but is a citation really required for every line? Most articles don't have this. However, even with added citations, the above DYK can't be fact-checked without print.
An explanation on the first DYK: I adjusted the claim for speed to "fastest slaver" as a direct quote from Chappelle rather than "fastest ship," even though it's pretty clear that many people would have considered Sunny South the fastest ship in port. First, when clipper captains had a really good run, they had a tendency to come ashore exclaiming that they had the "fastest ship in the world." Second, Sunny South was not only a clipper, it was the only full-sized ship built by a famous racing yacht designer, whose reputation no doubt preceded him. Third, successful slavers were known for out-running other ships. Sunny South, given its smell and unclear location over the years, was probably not on its first slaving voyage when caught. (I would need archival resources to definitively prove this, however). And fourth, a sailing ship with no engine that can outrun a steam-powered Royal Navy ship doing 11 1/2 knots performs at a such an unusual level that on any given day, there's a darned good chance that it is the fastest [sailing] ship in port.
Point two: I feel this particular ship merits a DYK as it shows up in the written work of 3 writers who are still known today: Speke, London, and Dickens. The following DYK can be fact-checked without print:
FYI DYK rules require at least one citation per paragraph, even if that paragraph is only one sentence. Hook information must have a cite at the end of the sentence(s) in which all or part appear. Offline sources are accepted on good faith.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

citation problems fixed and ALT 3 is good.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 31

Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827

5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and recent 5x expansion check out fine. However, I have some stylistic concerns with the hook and with the article itself. First of all, the hook as currently written says that there are "a few manuscripts" of the period with equal importance, when the source actually states, "Few MSS. of the 12th century will be found to equal it in weight and importance."[8] There seems to be a difference between saying that there are "a few manuscripts" as good as this one, versus saying that "few manuscripts" are as good as this one. Second, some sentences in the article are grammatically incorrect, such as It contains Epistula ad Carpianum (Epistle to Carpian) at the beginning of the codex, lists of the κεφαλαια were placed before each Gospel in the 15th century, and slight illuminations before each Gospel. and According to Scrivener there are a few Greek manuscripts of the New Testament from the 12th century "will be found to equal it in weight and importance". Third, the article includes foreign language phrases to too great an extent for an English Wikipedia article (see Wikipedia:Writing better articles#Use other languages sparingly). For example: According to the colophon (in red), on folio 263 verso, the manuscript was written in ετει απο χριστου αρξ, but αρξ as year is not authentic, it was overwritten by later hand, the real year was σχξη. and Scholz had noted that "familiae plerumque adhaeret Constantinopolitanae" (today called as the Byzantine). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Epistula ad Carpianum is translated in the brackets, lists of the κεφαλαια I have changed into "tables of the κεφαλαια (tables of contents)". αρξ and σχξη are more clear now. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 21:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • Please note that the sentence with "Epistula ad Carpanium" in it was cited above as grammatically incorrect, not as one of the sentences containing excess foreign language verbiage. Other sentences with grammatical problems in the article include He bent his attention it its illustration. and Scrivener did not examined them. I recommend that this article be reviewed by someone who is familiar enough with the topic to edit it properly. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, I made more improvements (also Byzantine text). Is it possible to combine the hook with a new created article?
ALT1 ... that Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827 belong to the textual Family 1424, which still deserves a more textual study than received? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles check out for length, date etc. However the ALT1 is too subjective, and not mentioned in either article.

ALT2 that Codex Ephesinus and Minuscule 827 belong to the textual Family 1424.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand, Memo Rojas

A racing driver in a purple-and-white firesuit, black cap and dark glasses broods while waiting in the pits.

Brightly colored race cars pose for the camera at Daytona.

  • Reviewed: 1973 DeKalb-Peachtree Airport Learjet 24 crash
  • Comment: Race article was created for ITN, but looks like it won't make the cut there. Also yes, over 200 char hook, but as I recall multiple hooks are given a bit of leeway there?

2011 24 Hours of Daytona, Joey Hand created by The Bushranger (talk). Memo Rojas 2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've amended the hook to avoid a redirect. Schwede66 09:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since this has been around for a bit, this might make sence: after it's approved, could it be run on the 20th, perhaps, at the 1pm Eastern Time update? (Since that would be around the start of the Daytona 500). - The Bushranger One ping only 06:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 1

Bleeker Ridge

  • ... that Canadian rock band Bleeker Ridge formed in 2003, when the youngest members were 12 years old?

Created by Scorpion0422 (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Instead of saying the band "came together in 2003", how about "formed in 2003"? - PM800 (talk) 03:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook cited. Length good. Meets WP:BAND & other policies. Article was created on 1 Feband nominated on 9 Feb, so it was 8 days old. This is probably not an issue unless there is too much of a backlog. Removed (pictured) because there is no image in nomination, and the one on the page is not good at 100px. --Dbratland (talk) 18:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, I originally had the image in there, then I realized that it was far too dark and wide to look good at 100px, so I removed it, but forgot to take the (pictured) out. Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion0422 00:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Lewis (violinist)

Man dressed in a tailcoat and open-necked white shirt, playing a violin

  • ... that Oliver Lewis (pictured), founding member of the electronic music group Deviations Project, is considered to be the "world's fastest violinist"?

Created by Daicaregos (talk). Self nom at 23:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, reference and hook look ok. Good to go.Alexikoua (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

not yet, the image needs to be approved through OTRS first.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Double checked Alexikoua's verification but I agree with Thelma about the image. However a promoting admin could feel free to take this hook for any of the non-picture slots. AgneCheese/Wine 22:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's true, but the picture is excellent for 100px. Worth the wait IMHO.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, I already used it then put it back (on MS's advice) to wait for the OTRS. Well worth waiting for! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Liberation Army (Peru)

Created by HelperMonkey (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(oddly, you do not seem to have a "Warrior Poet" article to which I can link...very odd) HelperMonkey (talk) 00:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment HelperMonkey just registered yesterday; this is the first time s/he has tried for a DYK. Nyttend (talk) 17:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is that not allowed? :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelperMonkey (talk • contribs) 23:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • No no, it just means you are not obliged to review another DYK submission. You're good, no worries, and thanks for joining the team. Drmies (talk) 17:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • OK, this is interesting stuff, but I'm not ready yet to OK it. Sourcing is a bit of an issue: obviously, many of the references are not available online, and while that is not mandatory it does help. Using citation templates would be an improvement also, and there are too many entries that lack basic bibliographic information--in the current version], notes 2 through 9, basically. Also, I can't verify note 1--and notes 1, 5, and 6 are necessary to verify the hook, as are notes 3 and 4. I see also that the Javier Heraud article lacks proper verification through reliable sources.

      So, it's not just a matter of cleanup, it's also the sourcing that needs to be taken care of before it can get to the front page... Drmies (talk) 17:53, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All the "offline" sources are on Google Books - I just typed their names (and the name of the group) into Google Books to find it all :) HelperMonkey (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you use the citation templates you can easily add the URL. They look like this:{{cite book|last=Hunter|first=Dave|title=Guitar effects pedals: the practical handbook|year=2004|publisher=Hal Leonard|isbn=9780879308063|pages=24, 89|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=myP-4CZWyxcC&pg=PT89}}</ref> (from MXR Dyna Comp). See WP:CITE, for instance. Drmies (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't figure out the templates to link to the right pages on the Google Books page, but I added a couple more online references including TIME magazine and one or two others so I hope it is good now? HelperMonkey (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
VERY interesting article. I haven't looked into the referencing yet but I noticed that the article only mentions "guerrilla poets" once in the bullet point of Edgardo Tello and doesn't explicitly state that the term came to be associated with them after their deaths like you state in the hook. While the DYK hook doesn't have to be a word-for-word snippet in the article, but something to the effect of what the hook says should be pretty clearly stated. I recommend actually creating a sub-section of the article titled "Guerrilla poets" where you can consolidate the details (and references) about Heraud and Tello and make more clear how their connection to the NLA influenced their legacy, etc. But again, extremely interesting article and a great first start for a Wikipedian. Welcome! I hope to see more of your work. AgneCheese/Wine 22:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Olav Braarud

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 22:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is contradicted in the article, which indicates that Braarud was succeeded by Edvard Heiberg. Rcej (Robert) - talk 05:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz

Karl Bernhard Zoeppritz, German geophysicist

Created by Kwinkunks (talk). Nominated by Reynardo (talk) at 03:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It also helps if I spell the guy's name right in the heading. Reynardo (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is still well short of the 1500 character minimum at 970 characters. Mikenorton (talk) 11:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It also still has a stub tag. AgneCheese/Wine 22:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 3

Jordon Saffron Taste This!

Created by Nicodavo (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chair (sculpture)

  • ... that a woman lived 42 days on the former world's largest chair in 1960?

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Age, length, and hook all verified. Interesting article! The women was a model, so I'm wondering if it might capture more readers to note that fact. Location (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article needs some copy-editing and additional inline citations, especially in the "Community reception" section. DYK rules suggest at least one cite per paragraph; can this be fixed? 28bytes (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with 28bytes. This is a at best right now. In addition to the Community reception section the entire Looking Glass House section, which is at the heart of the hook, is completely unreferenced. I also assisted in adding citation needed tags to other important claims in the article that certainly need a citation before this article is eligible. AgneCheese/Wine 23:03, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 4

Moyes Dragonfly

  • Comment: Non-self-nom.

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anatolius (curator), 557 Constantinople earthquake

Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 16:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Auchincruive

Oswald Hall in 2009

Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
  • Well-written, nicely-illustrated article, and mostly well-referenced. The image is relevant, included in the article, and CC-licensed. However, some of the hook facts (those relating to Oswald's career) lack a reference. I have tagged the relevant sentences in the article.
    Also, the hook is too long: 202 characters is over the limit. Please suggest a shorter hook. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please do not count "(pictured)". --70.31.10.224 (talk) 06:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even if we omit "(pictured)", we still have 191 characters, which is too close to the hard limit. I suggest dropping the phrase "after the American War of Independence", as in ALT1 below. Note that the references are still needed before this can be finalised. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:21, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's better to keep "American War of Independence" in the hook in some way. That's one thing in the hook that any general readers of DYK on MainPage can relate to. I don't see any problem with the perfectly legal hook length of <200 characters. --PFHLai (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And I concur on both points. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Arnold Cook

Created by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Could you please let us know which article you have reviewed, or whether that's still to happen? Schwede66 19:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suspect Moondyne may not know about the new rule, so have dropped them a note. SmartSE (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suspicion confirmed ;) Reviewed Allenton hippopotamus. –Moondyne 23:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook length OK, hook stated in article, article new & size OK, refs now OK (added newspaper source). --Lexein (talk) 17:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

14th Test Squadron

Reservist from the 14th Test Squadron working with their active duty counterparts The squadron, located at the Mill Valley Air Force Station

14thTS Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 14thMWS Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Jsayre64 (talk) at 03:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've taken the liberty of merging this with the 14th MWS hook, as nominated by Jsayre64 here, to make/restore a double hook. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • These are two separate articles on the history of the same subject. There is no reason to keep them separate honestly as the Air Force recognizes the fact that units can come and go and share the same heritage. If this was the Navy, where they don't officially do that (something which we tend to ignore anyways), then I would be a little more leery but I really feel as though there is no reason to keep these separate. Additionally, if this was a unit that existed during the Second World War and another that existed after, with the same number, then this would be understandable. Besides, as it was, a lot of the information was duplicated. It is better to have one comprehensive article than two separate ones that are parroting each other. I have already merged the warning squadron into the other article and I was reverted, although the text on the test squadron remained. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since articles have been merged, probably should remove link and highted text for 14th MWS from hook since that link is now automatically forwarded to 14th TS article. Hook doesn't need two links that connect to same place.--Orygun (talk) 06:36, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bryant W. Bailey

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed New Georgia, Liberia.
  • Size and date OK. I have two problems with the hook. First, I see a source that Bailey refused to sign the document, I don't see a source that there was a vote or that he voted against. Second, I don't see a source saying that the reason for this declining to sign was the grandfather clause. Perhaps you can point me. --Muhandes (talk) 19:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Two sources: one says, the Constitution contained the grandfather clause. Another says, Bailey was the only delegate to vote against the Constituition. That second source does not say the grandfather clause was the reason for his vote. So I adjusted the hook in case there was another reason for his vote. Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Still, none of the sources, not even the article itself, say anything about a vote or him voting against anything. All they say is that he refused to sign. I'm sorry if this seems a bit pedant but I think DYK should stick to sources. --Muhandes (talk) 06:55, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 5

Local government in Sri Lanka

Created by Obi2canibe (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dull hook. Isn't this true of many other countries? Is there something distinguishing about local government in Sri Lanka? Might as well say "... that the XXXX River will wet you if you touch it?" Daniel Case (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly this, or words to this effect, as an ALT1 (refs [2] and [4] support, at a glance):
Better, I guess. Daniel Case (talk) 04:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree to change hook to ALT1.--obi2canibetalk contr 18:19, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvester H. Roper, Roper steam velocipede

A drawing of an early steam velocipede and a man standing behind it.

Created by Dbratland (talk), Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roy John (rugby player)

  • ... that Wales rugby union international Roy John could leap over four feet from a standing start?

5x expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is the four feet statistic a calculation between John's height (needs citation, but is given in ref#3) and reaching the crossbar (already cited)? If so, I think the hook should be reworded – I assumed that he could jump 4' horizontally from standing. Suggest alt:
ALT1: ... that from a standing start, Wales rugby union international Roy John could jump up and reach the crossbar set at 3.2 metres (10 ft 6 in) above the ground? matt (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Correct on all accounts, I'm more than happy with the alternative hook. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tradition

Tradition, by Olin Levi Warner. Bronze tympanum above main entrance of the Library of Congress Thomas Jefferson Building

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk), Sadads (talk), Ragesoss (talk), and Guerillero (talk) and others. Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 20:53, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Haven't copyedited the entire article yet (get on it, Sadads!), but the hook is verified and I think the article is good to go. Drmies (talk) 21:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm thinking that the hook should say either "a tradition" or "traditions". I've gone ahead and changed it to "a tradition", feel free to play around with it as necessary. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be a spoil sport (again), but 3510 > 13098 isn't a 5x expansion. SmartSE (talk) 21:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prose size (text only): 15 kB (2273 words) "readable prose size" <- is what I see --Guerillero | My Talk 23:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We split away Traditionalism (religion) from the original article, if you remove those 250 words (which is an independent article and should have been from the start), you start with 474 words and end with 2458 words that is a more than 5 times expansion. That is still a go. Sadads (talk) 23:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per Sadads, and my earlier comments, some off-topic content was split, so it shouldn't count. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:46, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John DeStefano

5x expanded by GabrielF (talk). Self nom at 17:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:Hook is too long to hold reader's continuity.

There is no personal box. The article is still listed as stub. Good selection of topic, but I think it needs a little more work. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox is not a DYK requirement, stub templates are generally removed when an article is accepted for DYK. The article is just barely long enough, but Billy Hawthorn is right, the hook is much too long. Consider these alts instead:
ALT1:... that art student John DeStefano created the cast bronze bas-relief portrait of Franklin Delano Roosevelt that hangs in the White House Roosevelt Room?
ALT2:... that artist John DeStefano spent sixty years creating mannequins after deciding that he could not support his family with his art?
--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 11:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 6

Siege of Phasis

Created by Dimadick (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Jamaica (44)

A camouflaged warship with two funnels and masts. Two gun turrets are visible forward.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Johanna Mestorf

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 07:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Huejotzingo: diff
  • Date, length, and sources check out. The last part of the hook looks a little awkward (the "first or second" part). Maybe alter slightly before promotion to DYK? Ruby2010 talk 18:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing it! I wasn't sure what to do about that. It's the obvious fact to use for the hook, but her own university obstinately contradicts all other sources, without even naming who they consider was first. (My best guess based on lots of searching is Margarete von Wrangell, who was the first ordentliche Professorin). And all I could find in the parts of the book from the conference about her that are on GoogleBooks is a statement that she was "one of the first." Yngvadottir (talk) 19:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it would be better to say "one of the first" in the hook then, since that would satisfy all sources? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that gets us into weasel word territory, and it certainly makes it ho-hum. The annoying thing is that the vast preponderance of sources say she was first - and go on about her staggering achievements and how she was "forgotten." She's now all over the internet and a fixture in books on female academics, German academic history, and the history of archeology, but "she invented the following 3 terms" and "She was the first female museum director in Germany" are boring hooks, and "She only got an honorary doctorate 10 years after she was made an honorary professor, in her retirement year" is not fair to her awe-inspiring career. So that was my problem. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hm. "Is considered by some to be the first"? "Is generally considered to be the first"? Well, darn, you're right. :P --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rule 90

  • ... that, in the Rule 90 cellular automaton, any finite pattern eventually fills the whole array of cells with copies of itself?

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and sources check out. --Crusio (talk) 14:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Belemnotheutis

A 3D life restoration of Belemnotheutis.

  • ... that the fossilized ink of the extinct squid-like creature Belemnotheutis (life restoration pictured) was used to draw a picture of it 150 million years later?
  • ALT1:... that the fossilized ink of the extinct squid-like creature Belemnotheutis (life restoration pictured) was used to draw a picture of itself 150 million years later?
  • Comment: I still need to expand with a History section concerning the controversy it caused between Richard Owen and Gideon Mantell, but figured I should post the nomination here while I work on that to avoid missing the 5-day window. The expansion is from a stub and I'm aiming for more than just DYK quality. The picture used is my own work, made for the article as I couldn't find any suitable pictures existing. Also I only have 1 DYK to my name heh, so I think I'm still exempt from the reviewing rule. And to be honest, I need the time to expand.

5x expanded by Obsidian Soul (talk), Smartse (talk), Mgiganteus1 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x verified. Would strongly suggest "artist's rendition pictured" instead of "life restoration pictured" as wording change. Facts verified. Some alt suggestions below. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1:... that the extinct, squid-like Belemnotheutis's (artist's rendition pictured) 150-million-year-old ink was used to draw a picture that paleontologists called "the ultimate self portrait?"
Hmm... agree on the artist's rendition part, but the first words are a mouthful, heh. Another suggestion below.--ObsidinSoul 06:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2:... that the 150-million-year-old ink of the extinct, squid-like Belemnotheutis (artist's rendition pictured) was used to draw a picture that paleontologists called "the ultimate self portrait?"
Agree, this one's much better. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 20:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cleveland Point Light

A white hexagonal tapering lighthouse, clad with weatherboards, with red lanterm and dome

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 07:06, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook verified by the online source and everything else checks out - great work. Nick-D (talk) 10:52, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 23:52, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article needs simplification. It is hard to follow the legal ramblings. Shouldn't the hook say "recused themselves" instead of only "recused"? Did you find why those judges recused themselves? Most don't recuse themselves that often, even if they should, right? It's hard to associate this article from the 1840s to the 1980s. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:19, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's a complicated case there's no doubt, but I've tried to write the article for an intelligent lay audience willing to dig deeper if interested. I added some explanation where the article could bear it, and had to rely on wikilinks otherwise. "Recused themselves" would be wrong because "every" is singular. Judges nearly always do not explain why they recuse and this case was no exception (there was no published district court opinion, much less a published recusal opinion). I'm glad to respond to any other requests for improvement here or on the article talk page, but I don't think the article has to be perfect in order to be a DYK. Savidan 19:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think grammatically speaking the proper form would be ... that every federal judge in South Carolina recused him- or herself from South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe? But nobody talks like that. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Though come to think of it, considering the time this happened, it would probably be ok to say: ... that every federal judge in South Carolina recused himself from South Carolina v. Catawba Indian Tribe? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that a pronoun is correct, but it is not required. "[X] recused." is used all the time. The verb does not require a direct object. Savidan 19:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Recused [oneself]" is the more common form. It just depends on whether recuse is used in the transitive or intransitive form, as it is ambitransitive (see Wiktionary entry.) Frankly I don't care either way; it just sounds more natural in the transitive form. But that's my opinion. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 19:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Robert L. Frye

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT... that in 1972, Republican Robert L. Frye claimed that his Democratic opponent offered him a job to entice Frye to leave the race for Louisiana education superintendent?
Reviewed John DeStefano.
  • Could you please explain the nature of the source for the "ten-fold" claim. I am willing to AGF if "State of Louisiana, "Statement of Registered Voters as of January 1, 1972," (Baton Rouge: Secretary of State, 1972)" is just an off-line published source, but if it's something buried in the Secretary of State's office that is not published, that's problematic. Could you please explain how you found this? If you found it through a secondary or tertiary source, perhaps add that as well. Savidan 19:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The information on January 1972 voter registration numbers and the February 1, 1972 general election returns were mailed to me in 1980 as part of a master's thesis that I did on the Republican Party in Louisiana. Mr. Frye got slighty more than ten times the votes of the number of registered Republicans in his state at that time. He lived to see his party hold six of the seven U.S. House seats from his state, quite a bit of realignment. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added the thesis as the secondary source Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am inclined to say that nearly all masters theses are not sufficiently published to be cited as a source, although I'd be open to your explaining why yours should qualify. However, the alternate hook does not appear to rely on either of these sources. Savidan 23:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 7

Gunnar Bratlie

Created by Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:11, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that Gunnar Bratlie was imprisoned for two years for his caricature in a weekly magazine?

Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam

Created by CaroleHenson (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 12:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length OK, date OK, hook length OK, article looks fine. However, the hook is not quite accurate: according to the article the 3,000 are a legend while the hook makes it look like an actual fact. We are close to the 200 character limit for the hook, so I had trouble coming up with a good fix. Perhaps this:

Chesme Church

A view of Chesme Church.

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 06:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added an img. --Nvvchar. 10:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Img, 5X, online ref verified. well-referenced. Good to go. --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas William Hislop

Portrait photo of a bearded man in his late 50s

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


The Martha Raye Show

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Alpha, Texas
  • Length and dates are fine and I've done a bit to improve the sourcing for the article in general from contemporary sources but the hook fact is 1) sourced to the "Classic TV Info" website instead of Variety itself, 2) says the quotation is from "just prior to the premiere" but the cited sourced doesn't put a date to the Variety article is claims to quote, and 3) the hook fact sentence and the one immediately following are close paraphrases of the cited text.
Article: "Variety called Raye "the funniest femme in television," at a time when her competitors included Lucille Ball, Eve Arden, Gracie Allen, and Joan Davis. Raye would be less remembered over the years than the other comediennes because their work was shown in repeated rebroadcasts through I Love Lucy, Our Miss Brooks, The Burns and Allen Show, and I Married Joan, respectively."
Source: "Variety dubbed Raye "the funniest femme in television," which is saying something, considering that the competition consisted of such colorful comediennes as Lucille Ball, Eve Arden, Gracie Allen, and Joan Davis. If she's not as well remembered today as those other stars, it can be largely attributed to the fact that her shows aired live and were never seen again, whereas I Love Lucy, Our Miss Brooks, The Burns and Allen Show, and I Married Joan were rerun endlessly in the years following their network runs."

Poulsard

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 11:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Date, length, expansion all check. The fact checks with the alternate reference, or otherwise this could be an AGF approval. Rlendog (talk) 21:17, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Contention-- without even having read the article, the hook is misleading. Any red grape can be used to make white wine -- as long as the skins are removed before they tint the resultant liquid. See wine color article. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 05:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually that fact is really not that well known. Even a lot of wine drinkers just assume that "red grapes make red wine and white grapes make white wine" so it is a great opportunity to share a little insight on the main page. Not only does the article explain maceration (which I understand you haven't read yet) but the links to color pigments and white wine also go to the relevant articles that further educate the reader. There is nothing misleading. In fact, this is exactly what a Did you know... should do--highlight stuff that is not commonly known. AgneCheese/Wine 05:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and BTW... It's incorrect to say that any red grape can be used to make white wine. Not only are there teinturiers but there are also red grapes like Cabernet Sauvignon and Syrah that have such a concentration of color pigments in their skin that even the briefest of skin contact through just crushing still leaves a tint of pink making them more a rosé rather than a white wine. It's also why White Zinfandel isn't really "white". :P AgneCheese/Wine 05:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, "many." ;) It's just that the hook makes it sound like it's the only or one of very few red grapes that can be used to make red wine, whereas this is not the case. Maybe a better way would be to get a DYK on wine color and give that fact there instead. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it is really misleading since it doesn't make any claim to exclusivity. But Poulsard is unique because of how low its pigment is for a noir grape. As referenced in the article, even after a week of skin contact it barely tinges the wine while most grapes, as noted, start dying the wine almost immediately upon crushing. Now we could put all that extra info about the week long maceration, etc but that would take the hook over the 200 byte mark. Though if you want to find a way to squeeze that extra stuff into an alt hook, feel free to recommend one. Oh and wine color is linked in the hook via the white wine redirect. AgneCheese/Wine 07:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1:... that the dark skins of Poulsard wine grapes have so few color pigments they can be used to make white wine?
Which at first glance seems like the exact same thing as above, just reworded, but the antecedent for the pronoun "they" is actually "skins." But then again, the original hook is also perfectly fine.
Or: ALT2:... that the dark skins of Poulsard wine grapes have so few color pigments that they will not stain the resultant liquid, resulting in white wine?
Which is more explicit. But like I said, the original is fine. :) --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 13:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally I'd like to get a link to include either Jura wine or French wine as a descriptor of the grape in there. (I see that you have Jura wine behind the wine redirect but I don't think the reader is going to expect that going there). However, if the promoting admin prefers either of these Alts, I have no problem with them. I appreciate you trying to find some Alts. AgneCheese/Wine 23:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Silas Blissett

Created by AcidBrights (talk). Nominated by Raintheone (talk) at 16:10, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Date, length and hook check. (Article only existed as a redirect before, so should count as article creation.) --JN466 00:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Did you even look at the article? The inline hook isn't referenced. I'm a little unsure about the article's sourcing, too. All 9 of the references are different links, but they're all the same author, on the same website, about the same thing. It kind of borders on WP:ONESOURCE.Jrcla2 (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I noticed a secondary source that I didn't see on first catch. I'm less concerned about the references anyhow. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The hook is cited to this, which checked out. --JN466 00:32, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps we should call the character a "killer" rather than a "serial killer". According to the article, present storylines only have him complete one murder, although he attempts or contemplates two others which he then doesn't go through with. --JN466 00:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well the sources say serial killer, but that's fine. (He killed his wife but that's yet to be revealed nor has it gained any out world coverage as of yet.) Changed to killer.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 14:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Entire section 'storylines' is still unreferenced. Otherwise the hook is appropriately cited. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 17:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Storylines are not required to be sourced per the MoS on writing about fictional characters.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 20:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:TVPLOT specifically says it's for episode articles, but I'm going to assume you understand better than I do conventions for these sorts of things.--Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 03:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 8

Castilleja septentrionalis

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spektrum Flyers

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence Roehm

University of Michigan quarterback Lawrence Roehm cropped from the 1915 Michigan football team portrait

  • ... that Michigan's 1915 quarterback Lawrence Roehm (pictured) was called the "thinking type," "160 pounds of undaunted courage," and a "peppery"' player who imbued his team with "do-or-die spirit"?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please hold off on reviewing until I add my quid pro quo review. Cbl62 (talk) 23:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ted Bank

University of Michigan football quarterback Ted Bank cropped from the 1920 Michigan football team portrait

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please hold off on reviewing until I add my quid pro quo review. Cbl62 (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Rosendale Village, New York

Downtown Rosendale Village, New York.

5x expanded by Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Black and Blue (Homicide: Life on the Street)

A smiling brown-haired woman wearing gold earrings and a gold and black dress.

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 07:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All of the relevant citations are offline, but the fact does check out with non-RS sites like IMDB. Image also checks out. It's good to go. -- Scorpion0422 14:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Hildyard

General Hildyard pictured during the Second Boer War

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Amanita australis, Amanita nothofagi, Entoloma haastii, Mycena cystidiosa, Mycena minirubra, Oudemansiella australis, Greta Stevenson

A stout brown mushroom with warts on the cap

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


  • Verified every single one. Length & expansions, dates, hook, awesome mushroom pic all good. DYK ready. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Salaulim Dam ‎

Aerial view of Salaulim Dam and spillway.

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Don Charles

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's More Than One of Everything

Created by Ruby2010 talk 18:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC) [reply]

  • Reviewed Johanna Mestorf. Note: the article was expanded from a redirect (so this could either be considered a new article or expanded 5x). Not sure what the policy is on this. Ruby2010 talk 18:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Liar paradox in early Islamic tradition

Commemorated on an Iranian stamp upon the 700th anniversary of the death of Naṣīr al-Dīn al-Ṭūsī

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 04:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • length and hook OK. DYK ready.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Marshall JTM 45

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Marshall JTM 45, the British company's first amplifier, has more sag but less crunch than their later models? :) Drmies (talk) 02:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed William Wadé Harris. Drmies (talk) 03:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dent Island Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--Muhandes (talk) 06:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note that I found and corrected a factual error on the original hook. --Muhandes (talk) 21:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
May I suggest to make this a double hook? Double Island Point Light was authored 13 February

--Muhandes (talk) 17:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Red Barked Tree

  • ... that while it took Wire three months to come up with a title for their last album, Object 47, the band immediately agreed on naming their current record Red Barked Tree?

5x expanded by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998

Length and history verified; offline ref accepted on good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Les Trois Grâces

Created by Missvain (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see no mention of Les Trois Graces ever dancing on the streets of Washington, D.C. which should be wikilinked, also the suggested hook isn't very interesting. —Ancient ApparitionChampagne? • 12:08pm • 01:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article and its illustration explain the apparent anomaly, which is nicely suggestive ("hooking"): so! they're not the ancient Greek Graces themselves, as one might think at first.--Wetman (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're over-estimating the cultural know-how of the average reader. ;)
That having been said, I can only find explicitly stated in the article that the artwork will be installed by 2015, not that it's there already. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 13:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the nominator has any intention to supply a new hook. —Ancient ApparitionChampagne? • 10:06am • 23:06, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gateway Project

Created by Djflem (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 9

Arne Paasche Aasen

Created by Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Baptist's Church, Stanton

A flint church seen between trees, the body ruined and roofless, the tower with a battlemented parapet

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and image check out. However, the hook is somewhat confusing: the article and reference source state only that the west wall is built up to the boundary of the church yard, and that the tower being open at its lowest stage for processionals appears to be independent of the aforementioned attribute. Perhaps the hook can be simplified and the detail about the churchyard boundary can be left out? KimChee (talk) 14:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess you're right. I wanted to include the west wall, and also explain that the processions were to go round the outside of the church, but this isn't possible within 200 characters, so unless anyone is clever enough to create a hook clear enough and short enough, I think this suggestion will have to be dropped. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for trying, but that doesn't really say it. To be properly accurate would I fear take >200 characters, so I still think the suggestion should be dropped. But I really appreciate your time and effort.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quicksilver GT500

A purple ultralight aircraft sits on grass in front of tents.

  • Comment: Non-self-nom.

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 01:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article doesn't establish any sort of notability. It doesn't say why the plane is important, and I'm a little worried that the manufacturer doesn't even have an article. More importantly, the hook does not appear in the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quoting from WP:AIR/N, An aircraft is generally notable if it is verifiably — through reliable sources — a distinct "type" as demonstrated by any one or more of the following criteria: ... 2. The aircraft has received a type certificate from a national aviation authority. (eg: the Bellanca CH-300 was granted U.S. Approved Type Certificate 129.)". And the hook fact is, indeed, in the article: The GT500 was developed specifically for the FAR 21.24 Sportplane class of the primary aircraft category and on 26 July 1994 became the first aircraft certified in that category.. A stub for the manufacturer will be up shortly. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, I started this article, so I guess I can be the one to answer any questions on it. First as User:The Bushranger has noted it meets notability requirements for and WP:AIR/N. It also meets WP:GNG, too, as it has 13 references, of which 11 are third party independent refs, including one that is the FAA. Not sure why User:Hurricanehink would think that the proposed "hook" of that the Quicksilver GT500 is the first aircraft certified under Part 21.24 of the Federal Aviation Regulations? is not supported in the text as the text says "The GT500 was developed specifically for the FAR 21.24 Sportplane class of the primary aircraft category and on 26 July 1994 became the first aircraft certified in that category." Sounds like it is stated there to me. - Ahunt (talk) 21:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • My main problem was that I didn't see the words "Federal Aviation Regulation". You should rewrite the sentence in question so it's more clear. As for the notability, ehh, I find it borderline, but I don't think it's too problematic. If you could just clarify the FAR in the article, I'll be fine with it. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aboriginal title in California

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and date OK. Very nice looking article. The hook is cited, but I'm afraid I don't understand the reference format. Note 49 has "3 F.2d 90, 91". What does this mean? I think these references need to be clearer. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would have hoped that it was at least obvious that the written opinions from these court cases are what is cited. These are case citations, formatted according to the Bluebook. Savidan 20:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not obvious to someone who knows nothing about law. You shouldn't assume that the general reader will know this. However, if this is standard referencing, I'll leave someone else to pass or fail this - nice article. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 20:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that no system of citation is completely obvious to those without prior knowledge of it. However, I still think the vast majority of lay readers understand, in general, that there are such things as courts and lawsuits, and that courts resolve lawsuits with written opinions. Savidan 21:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ready to go. There are different citation standards in different disciplines; in this one, it would be inappropriate to use any other style. Nyttend (talk) 14:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Octave Uzanne

Black-and-white drawing of a bearded man in a library

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 11:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The length and age are good, but the hook isn't cited, except when it comes to Rops ("One of the main artists collaborating with Uzanne was the Belgian Félicien Rops"). The other two are merely stated as illustrators of Uzanne's work, without citations, and I see the portrait of Uzanne here is by Vallotton, but we need citations for "worked closely together with". I don't think we can run with "artists like" in the hook, but that is easily taken out. Moonraker2 (talk) 12:10, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it was more implicit than explicit in the sources I included. Perhaps

ALT1: ... that Belgian Symbolist artist Félicien Rops called French writer Octave Uzanne (pictured) "the Bibliophile's dream"?

All checks out for ALT1. Moonraker2 (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, ALT1 is better. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints Church, Little Wenham

A church seen from the southwest; prominent is the west tower, its lower two stages in flint and the battlemented top stage in red brick; beyond it stretches the body of the church with its south porch

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Citation links function. Noted as Grade II* listed. Good to go.--Wetman (talk) 07:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's what I thought at first but it appears to have been changed. Message on your talk page.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


AAM-A-1 Firebird

A bright red missile with white-and-black-striped wings is mounted on an underwing pylon of a straight-winged aircraft, ready for flight testing

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date OK. Offline ref AGF. But the article says "Germany" rather than "Nazi Germany". Suggest you alter one or the other for consistency. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure. Sorry to be pedantic, but of course I don't know what the source actually says, and that might be causing a difficulty. May I have a second opinion on this, please. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The direct quote from the source is "The first post-war AAM to reach the flight-test stage outside Germany,". Perhaps this might work better? - The Bushranger One ping only 18:33, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Honestly, I don't like that one - it implies that air-to-air missiles had previously been developed inside Germany following the end of World War II, which was of course not the case. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • for ALT1. The problem is that I do not have the source available, and have to trust you that it actually says this (which I do). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nevada State Route 230

5x expanded by Pzoxicuvybtnrm (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fact verified, expansion verified, looks good to go. As a note, this looks to be your fifth DYK; congrats! And remember that the next one will require you to QPQ review another hook under the current rules. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 05:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Justice (1954 TV series)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:Reviewed William Wade Harris
The article does not directly mention the hook fact. Philg88 (talk) 22:32, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Clarification made Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:00, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Little Langdale

The grassed mound of the Thing Moot surround by a fence. Terracing on the mound is indistinct but visible. Behind the mound are a number of slate-roofed farm buildings with a hillside in the distance. The immediate foreground is a grass covered boulder.

Created by JMiall (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on February 10

Doomsday Gun

5x expanded by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Schenecker double homicide --Lexein (talk) 04:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alan B. Slifka

Created by Sharktopus (talk), Anna Frodesiak (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Imaginarium (album)

Created by Secret Saturdays (talk). Nominated by Quispiam (talk) at 17:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clement-Bayard

Albert Clément driving a 1906 Clément-Bayard racing car

5x expansion (Clément-Bayard) and new Creation (Albert Clément) by Chienlit (talk) 21:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Schenecker double homicide

--BabbaQ (talk) 14:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Can I suggest a slight tweak to:
... that Florida woman Julie Powers Schenecker allegedly confessed to shooting her two children because they "talked back and were mouthy"?
Reason being BLP concerns, this is alleged. --Errant (chat!) 14:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cited source(2nd page) supports "talked back and were mouthy", and "allegedly confessed". Length of article is OK, length of hook is OK. But I suggest this alternate to clarify "confessed because" vs "shot because"
ALT2: ... that Florida woman Julie Powers Schenecker allegedly claimed to have shot her two children because they "talked back and were mouthy"?
--Lexein (talk) 04:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, good point on that one :) ALT2 is better worded. --Errant (chat!) 09:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Size, refs, ALT2 hook wording now good to go. --Lexein (talk) 15:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall

A stone church with red tiled roofs seen from the southeast, showing a battlemented tower, a nave with a clerestory, a south porch and a chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length & date, hook length, and hook fact all check out. Image is CC-by-SA 3.0. Sasata (talk) 06:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that St Mary the Virgin's Church, Wiggenhall, Norfolk, (pictured) is notable for the quality of its carved wooden fittings?
Does this sound better, or is the meaning distorted? Sasata (talk) 06:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds better, and I think it probably IS better. Will accept ALT1.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Pennsylvania State Memorial, Eternal Light Peace Memorial, 1913 Gettysburg reunion, 1938 Gettysburg reunion

One DYK factoid drafted for the above 3 new and 1 completely rewritten wikiarticles:

Missing bolded primary article. Hook is 310 characters, 110 too many. Hook does not seem to be explicitly stated as a single item in any of the articles. Please review the rules. It may be helpful to review an entry. Suggested ALT 1, of length 197:
"...that the Gettysburg Battlefield memorials "Pennsylvania State" and "Eternal Light Peace" were dedicated at battlefield reunion encampments on the 50th and 75th anniversaries of the Battle of Gettysburg?
--Lexein (talk) 23:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Rananim

Satellite picture of a large tropical cyclone, just off the coast of China

Created by Hurricanehink (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Matheson

5x expanded by Raintheone (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: On the Floor (song)
  • Astonishingly, I'm coming up with a count just 200 characters short of a 5x expansion. For the sticklers here, I would suggest that you make the modest addition to satisfy them that it qualifies for a 5x ... I expect that will be easy enough. The hook is short enough, but should be shorter (delete either the first or second "that"). I would hyphenate one-minute.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Short by 406 characters for 5x, counted from the pre-expansion Jan 24 edit (2373 bytes) to this Feb 12 edit (11459 bytes)) using User:Dr pda/prosesizebytes.js. (2372*5) - 11459 = 406. Just add two soured sourced sentences. --Lexein (talk) 01:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There we go, I've added more info so it brings it to the right amount. :)RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • 5x size is now okay, assuming good faith on the plot summary, hook is ok, and properly sourced. Hyphenate "one minute". Minor grumble: I was hoping for a smidge more sourced material, since plot summaries are usually only verifiable by watching the show. --Lexein (talk) 05:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manx2 Flight 7100

  • ... that a Manx2 flight from Belfast to Cork crashed on landing, killing 6 and injuring at least 6? - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 12:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is a bit short of the required words at present & is still marked as a stub. It might be better to try for In The News, or wait for a bit more information to be published before nominating.— Rod talk 17:23, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article now meets size criteria and checks out, but is still in a state of heavily being worked on. Suggest this wait a day or two before final approval. Also, suggesting alternative hook, since the original one was, honestly, rather bad. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1: ... that the Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland had planned to be aboard Manx2 Flight 7100, which crashed on landing in February 2011?

Meare Lake Village

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length appears to be sufficient, citations check out, it's a new article. Looks like all requirements are fulfilled. Cluskillz (talk) 20:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 11

Usos y costumbres

5x expanded by Carwil (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August (Fringe)

Created Ruby2010 talk 03:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Reviewed Cat's Cradle (film). Ruby2010 talk 04:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook, length and date check out. Yazan (talk) 17:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim no-hitters, List of Kansas City Royals no-hitters, List of Texas Rangers no-hitters, List of Houston Astros no-hitters, List of Milwaukee Brewers no-hitters, List of Florida Marlins no-hitters

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is 311 characters. Too many primary (bolded) articles, and too many unrelated pitchers. The hook relies on citing baseball-reference.com, not news or book sources - an extra historical reference here would be excellent. I don't see how to shrink the existing hook to 200 characters at all, even if the source issue is addressed. Even this shrink is 227 characters:
... that the first no-hitters for the Major League Baseball clubs Angels, Royals, Rangers, Astros, Brewers and Marlins were pitched by Bo Belinsky, Steve Busby, Jim Bibby, Don Nottebart, Juan Nieves and Al Leiter, respectively?
Probably better as 6 separate hooks including year of first no-hitter - I think they could(?) be spread across six separate days, and still accepted (can we get consensus on this?) --Lexein (talk) 05:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC) [reply]
Multi-article hooks are exempt from the hook length requirement, see C3. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not entirely exempt, but after subtraction, the first hook comes in at 222; at that length "it may still be considered eligible if the hook is reasonably compact and readable, but such hooks will be considered on a case-by-case basis." I disagree with a DYK with a list of six unrelated teams and pitchers. Why six? Why not eight? or four? I would prefer 6 individual, more informative, 200 character hooks. Plus, there's the single-sourcing issue. For these reasons, I now defer to another editor, rather than block this. --Lexein (talk) 07:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I see it, the most basic hook would be:
... that the first no-hitter for the Major League Baseball club Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim was pitched by Bo Belinsky?
I make that 116 characters. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ron & Tammy: Part Two

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 16:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Public Defender (TV series)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date are fine. However, IMDb is not a reliable source. - PM800 (talk) 04:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Schenecker double homicide

International Gendarmerie

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook and ref verified. I believe it's ready to go. Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 03:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hold on - Minor grammar correction, change language to accomodate new source, and length reduction to 200 characters:
ALT 1: ... that according to sources, Dutch Major Lodewijk Thomson, second-in-command of the International Gendarmerie in Albania, was probably killed by an Italian sniper on 15 June 1914, in a peasant rebel attack on Durrës?
(The claim in the article was singly-sourced to an archive of a personal website, which claimed "rumours" and lacked an inline citation, though other paragraphs cite two unavailable, unverifiable German books. I've added a source, which cites "analysis" in another unavailable book source, but claims "probable".) I suggest ALT 1. Another editor, please re-review. --Lexein (talk) 06:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Lexein for providing the additional source. I agree with ALT 1.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Blackader

  • Reviewed: Minuscule 826 (Gregory-Aland)
  • Comment: Two alternate hooks, both Irish-history focused; they may work better, but it partly depends whether or not you like a single sizable quote in DYK.

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Malaya Sadovaya Street

Created by User:Herostratus (User talk:Herostratus). Self nom at 19:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I (Herostratus) reviewed Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, a Feb. 7 article.

Sergiu Dan

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Juliusz Słowacki

Juliusz Słowacki by James Hopwood

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Luobi Cave. Word count tells me it should be a ~5x expansion, I hope you agree :) As this is a very much core subject for Poland, I'd ask for a featured hook position (first place), with an image. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you want your hook featured, then you need to add alt and rollover text to the image line. Without that, the picture will never be run. This diff has a prose size of 3374 B, so you need 16.87 kB for a 5x expansion. It currently stands at 15 kB. Can you write a bit more? Schwede66 17:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added the alt/rollover text and expended the article. If this is insufficient, please ping me on my talk page, I intend to keep expanding it further over the next few days. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Long enough now; well done! There's an unreferenced paragraph in your expansion (starting with "Słowacki put his capital into the Parisian stock market"), but given the quality of your inline referencing, that'll take you a millisecond to fix. Schwede66 05:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cholula, Puebla

  • ... that the neighborhoods of the city of Cholula, Puebla in Mexico have a complicated system for sponsoring its many religious festivals?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vidyasagar Setu

Vidyasagar Setu or Second Hoogly Bridge.

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Jujutacular (talk). Self nom at 21:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added an img.--Nvvchar. 22:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stationary High Altitude Relay Platform

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and hook check out, but have you reviewed another DYK nom? Jujutacular talk 21:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed article below. Very cool! Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can we get a consistent citation style? Matsumoto should be the only entry in the bibliography. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done, and also linked the PopSci article. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pinocchio paradox

Description of the image

  • Alt1 ... that Pinocchio's sentence "My nose grows now", (pictured) could be neither true nor false, which means his nose grows if, and only if, it does not grow?

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


All checks out. I took the liberty of tidying the hook slightly. Moonraker2 (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is incorrect. The paradox arises from a statement, not a fact. Petergans (talk) 07:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook is fixed.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All checks out for current hook. Moonraker2 (talk) 15:11, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is still incorrect. To quote from the article lead-in the liar paradox consists of the statement "This sentence is false." The link has the form "this sentence is true". The underlying problem with the link is that the paradox arises only because Pinocchio is a known liar, which means that any statement he makes might be true or false. Petergans (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Either it "is different from an usual Liar paradox because it is not semantic" or "is clearly a version of the Liar." (both quotes above). I give up. I will not comment further. Petergans (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

      • There's no need for the red font. I could read black one very good :-)Back to the point. It is my understanding that your objections now is only about the hook linking to Liar paradox. Although I believe it is an absolutely valid link because the Pinocchio paradox is the Liar paradox, I came up with an alternative hook just above, in which I removed the link to Liar Paradox. I do hope that now, you could go ahead and remove your objections.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very interesting article, the hook is exactly as it is in the source. Good to go.--Broccolo (talk) 23:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does the source have the word "sentence" misspelled too? Sasata (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      The source does not have the word "sentence" misspelled but it does have the word "sentance" misspelled :-)--Mbz1 (talk) 02:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Smith (silent film director)

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 16:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I reviewed the article Techno Viking. -- Cirt (talk) 16:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date and length verified. Hook refs confirm that Humor Risk is the Marx Brothers' first film, but I could not find mention of Richard Smith in any of the three. KimChee (talk) 04:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, for verifying the date and length. The hook refs confirm all of the cited hook. The relevant quote is from the source, Koszarski 2008, p. 93, quote = "the first film, Humor Risk, had been completed, directed by Dick Smith from a script by Jo Swerling". I have added that quote directly into the citation for the source, diff. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 07:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Verified, I missed that as a consequence of not thinking to look for Dick! KimChee (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Balancing Rocks

The Balancing Rocks on Bank Notes of Zimbabwe.

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook, expansion and refs check out. Good to go. Yazan (talk) 06:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gabe Carimi

  • ... that Gabe Carimi, who is expected to be picked in the first round of the 2011 NFL Draft, fasted for Yom Kippur until an hour before game-time his freshman year of college?
5x expanded by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • 5X extension, the hook, references are verified. Good to go.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Barnesville Petroglyph

7x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Writing this article has taken almost all of my Wikipedia time today, so I'm not yet able to review another article; please don't reject this nomination unless you find other problems with the article. By my count, the article had 891 characters before I started versus 6951 now. I'm hoping to expand it more with some other sources before long. Nyttend (talk) 14:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Expanded by a further 600 characters. Nyttend (talk) 15:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good hook, article meets DYK rules for length, timing, citation. A really nice article with a lot of useful cross-references. Sharktopustalk 00:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adalbert Schneider

5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

, Good to go, Offline sources accepted per WP:AGF. HerkusMonte (talk) 13:11, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uranate

A collection of green-yellow glass jars fluorescing under UV light

  • ... that all uranium(VI) uranate structures are based on UOn polyhedra sharing oxygen atoms in an infinite lattice?

5x expanded by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 09:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very intriguing work. I'm not sure it's totally accessable to the lay reader, though - what is "uranium(VI)" as opposed to normal uranium? And what is "UOn"? - The Bushranger One ping only 06:19, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a more accessible hook, e.g. ALT1 .. that uranates have been used to add various colors to glass (example pictured)? [13] Materialscientist (talk) 07:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The alternate hook is acceptable. Petergans (talk) 07:39, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Template_talk:Did_you_know#Pinocchio_paradox. Petergans (talk) 07:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ASM-N-5 Gorgon V

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • You have sourced your hook to a personal website by Parsch, who is not an acknowledged expert in this area, and so is not acceptable as a reliable source. However, Parsch cites sources which may be acceptable. Can you source your hook with one of these? --Epipelagic (talk) 04:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Cajetan J. B. Baumann

Created by User:James Russiello (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook reference verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 02:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hikmat al-Shihabi and Ali Duba

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article and hook look fine–most of the article is cited to an offline source, but I can AGF on that. Qrsdogg (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook revised and added another DYK nom to it, please re-review. Yazan (talk) 10:26, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

for the double hook. Materialscientist (talk) 11:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Luobi Cave

  • ... that in the 1990s Luobi Cave near Sanya, Hainan, China yielded the oldest evidence of human settlement in Hainan, as well as China's most southern occurrence of Upper Paleolithic era stone tools?

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Non-English language sources accepted in good faith. It would be nice to get English language and/or academic sources, but it is not necessary for a DYK. Date, size, hook, check out. I linked Hainan in the hook. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 12

Jan Sviták

Created by Vejvančický (talk), Haploidavey (talk). Self nom at 10:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

, AGF for offline Czech sources. HerkusMonte (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mashpee Tribe v. New Seabury

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Washington Nationals no-hitters

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Seattle Mariners no-hitters, List of Arizona Diamondbacks no-hitters

Randy Johnson in 2004

Created by BlueEarth (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Nielluccio

Sangiovese

  • Reviewed: Our Lady of Vilnius Church (New York City)
  • Comment: Primary refs are in the History section and while mostly offline, I think I provided enough online refs there and in the lead to assist with verification

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size, date, etc. check out fine. Good job! And don't forget to archive with online refs with something like WebCite, just in case. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Supreme Council of the Armed Forces

A middle-aged Egyptian man wearing military uniform displaying various medals.

Created by Ekem (talk), Sundostund (talk). Nominated by The Celestial City (talk) at 17:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Lucy Cobb Institute

Created by LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 14:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed St Mary's Church, Islington, Norfolk. Drmies (talk) 17:25, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length and refs check out. — Hunter Kahn 16:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Countess Leon

Countess Leon's house in Webster Parish, Louisiana

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Clematis morefieldii

  • Off-line source accepted in good faith. Calistemon (talk) 15:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kepler-9b

  • ... that Kepler-9b's "year" increases by four days every time it completes an orbit?

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 00:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: NECA Project. --Starstriker7(Talk) 16:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clematis morefieldii

Clematis morefieldii

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:57, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Myotis escalerai

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Allegiances

Created by Matthew R Dunn (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Islington, Norfolk

The ruins of a church from the southeast showing from the left a battlemented tower, the gable end of the roofless south transept, and the roofed chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tony Burrello

  • ... that Tony Burrello's single "There's a New Sound" was described by Billboard magazine as "a studied attempt to be as screwy as possible", but went on to sell over 100,000 copies?

5x expanded by Metropolitan90 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Akenham

A church seen from the south with a flint battlemented tower on the left, a brick chapel in the middle, and a rendered chancel to the right

  • ... that legal action following the burial of a two-year old child in the churchyard of St Mary's Church (pictured) in Akenham, Suffolk, led to a change in the law in 1880?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looks good. New enough, big enough, and hook is supported by the sources. Ackatsis (talk) 23:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Edgar Lubbock

Published in Vanity Fair in 1906.

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 12:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have bolded Blankney Hunt in the hook as a new article, although I'm not sure that it's long enough. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tesem

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 10:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Another one for the 15th here. There is a suitable image (currently in the infobox), but I haven't added it to the hook as this is for a specific day and I didn't want to take over all the images in DYK. :) Miyagawa (talk) 11:00, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article size, text, sources and images check out. Resolute 19:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Batman River

We've got 4 expanded Batman articles (city, province, river and oil field). They could be squeezed into one hook, but it would be ugly, thus maybe 2-3 hoooks. Please suggest other alts (articles can be shuffled between various hook combinations). Maybe its better to drop the river from ALT1. The "near" part can be verified using this map and Google maps - it is just some 6 km away. Materialscientist (talk) 10:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC) Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:10, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some possible April Fools' Day hooks. 2 is for the province, 3 is the river, and 4 is the city. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that Batman is half female?
  • ALT3 ... that Batman killed 11 people in 2006?
Thanks and sorry - the source is unclear whether it was Batman or its tributary or both. Materialscientist (talk) 00:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cladonia perforata

Cladonia perforata, a branching yellow-grey lichen

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 07:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


SSM-A-5 Boojum

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • New article, with sufficient words. Hook is referenced to a book I don't have, so accepted in good faith.— Rod talk 11:21, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Learmonth

Created by Carcharoth (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Hook checked in the ODNB (I am a subscriber) and is correct. Fascinating hook! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've amended the hook to avoid the redirect for the target article. Schwede66 05:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall JCM800

  • ... that the Marshall JCM800 series of amplifiers, used by many hard rock and heavy metal bands of the 1980s, owes its name to the owner's initials and his license plate?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and online hook reference all check out. Good to go! 28bytes (talk) 03:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Aslan

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ismail El Shafei

5x expanded by Essam Sharaf (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article has less than 1500 characters of prose and is unreferenced. Please review the DYK rules. - PM800 (talk) 04:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cat's Cradle (film)

Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and sources check out. Ruby2010 talk 04:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 13

Nasuella

  • Comment: Non-self-nom, so no review necessary.

5x expanded by 212.10.88.103 (talk). Nominated by Ucucha (talk) at 12:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Geology of Uruguay

Created by Dentren (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cedric Wright

  • ... that Cedric Wright accompanied his best friend Ansel Adams when three of Adams's most famous photographs were taken?

Created by Cullen328 (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dexter Walker

Created by AcidBrights (talk). Nominated by Raintheone (talk) at 02:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Quebec (ice hockey)

Created/expanded by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • And I thought a beer boycott leading to the NHL-WHA merger couldn't be topped... :D Resolute 05:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seneb

A dwarf sits cross-legged on a plinth next to a women, with two children below.

  • ... that the dwarf Seneb (sculpture pictured) overcame his diminutive size to become a high-ranking royal official in ancient Egypt, marry a priestess and own thousands of cattle?

Created by Prioryman (talk) 21:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Mary Frances Winston Newson

  • ... that Mary Frances Winston Newson was the first American woman to be awarded a PhD in mathematics from a European university and the first person to translate into English the famous lecture first presenting Hilbert's Problems?

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award

Created by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reviewed Tesem. Resolute 19:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just looked again, and there is a problem that should be addressed: the hook itself is just over 200 characters. Perhaps the abbreviated version of National Hockey League should be used, as that would save more than enough characters. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 02:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That could work, but would remove context for someone who doesn't know what the NHL is. Alternatively, the Clancy award could be dropped: "...that between 1969 and 1984, the Charlie Conacher Humanitarian Award was presented to a National Hockey League player who made outstanding community service contributions?" Resolute 02:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Edward Hubbard

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, ref and hook check out good. Arsenikk (talk) 23:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The ref which states that Hubbard was "the world authority..." was published by Hubbard's employer. Is this a problem? --PFHLai (talk) 03:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why it should be. Kew Bulletin is a well-respected journal and the author was a well-respected botanist; I don't imagine the RBG would use an obituary published there as mere propaganda. In fact, it seems like the natural place for the obituary of a high-ranking Kew botanist. (But then I'm biased, because I wrote the article!) --Stemonitis (talk) 07:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Way

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've made some tweaks to the text. Everything checks out OK. Good work! Prioryman (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Megaphone (molecule)

Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date of expansion and degree of expansion are fine. The offline references look like they will be acceptable (assuming good faith), but it will need a direct inline citation, rather than one at the end of the paragraph. --Stemonitis (talk) 16:27, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Reviewed Hikmat al-Shihabi and Ali Duba. Materialscientist (talk) 22:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Domaine Raveneau

Created by Camw (talk), Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: Baco Blanc - diff. Camw (talk) 03:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Source is behind a paywall, but source content has been verified by Agne27. Camw (talk) 03:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article length and date check out, hook checks out, AGF ref. J04n(talk page) 04:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Up'n Down

  • ... that due to the sound tunings of the Atari 2600, its port of the 1983 arcade game Up'n Down transformed the background music from a "bluesy F-sharp minor groove" into "a very unsettling version based in C minor"?

5x expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: Marshall JCM800 [23] 28bytes (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I know the hook is a couple characters longer than 200, but I'm hoping it's close enough for an OK. :) 28bytes (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interesting. I think you need to change the wording, emphasizing on the transformation of the music quality and the fact that the music becomes so bad in Atari that it was criticized as having an annoying background music. Your current wording is a bit confusing.--Rochelimit (talk) 10:49, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about this:

ALT1: ... that when the 1983 arcade game Up'n Down was ported to the Atari 2600, its "bluesy" background music was replaced with "a very unsettling version" due to limitations in the 2600's sound capabilities?

That's shorter and hopefully less confusing... what do you think? 28bytes (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Dante Quartet

Created by Ackatsis (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Krishan Kumar
  • Length, date and hook for ALT1 checks out. The original hook is a bit complicated, as the source would be a quote and the quote doesn't clarify the character of their relationship (if they were married or not). --Soman (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Singa (mythology)

A figure of singa depicted as parchment holder

  • ... that the mythical Singa (pictured), meaning "lion", doesn't resemble any known lions?

5x expanded by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 10:50, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This was expanded on January 27, a lot more than five days ago, I'm afraid. Yazan (talk) 15:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Muhammad Mustafa Mero

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 15:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expansion checks out and so do the references. Interesting article and nice work. Nomader (Talk) 17:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Body and Brain Connection

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expansion and fact confirmed. Savidan 03:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 14

Joachim Meichssner

  • ... that Colonel Joachim Meichssner refused to kill Hitler in a suicide attack because he could not bear the stress of waiting?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and online references check out OK.--Charles (talk) 13:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. --TIAYN (talk) 13:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Herbits

Created by Disseminated (talk). Nominated by CharlieEchoTango (talk) at 07:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • . Could not find the 3 years of service fact in the cited source [26], which dates to 2005, one year after he took office. A proper source is needed or a new hook. Dentren | Talk 09:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Old Orchard Street Theatre

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All checks out. Moonraker2 (talk) 11:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1973 Soviet economic reform

Alexei Kosygin in 1967 at the Glassboro Summit Conference

Created by TIAYN (talk) 13:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder --TIAYN (talk) 13:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Behavior Genetics Association

5x expanded by Crusio (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Architonnerre


Add alt-text!
Add rollover text!

Created/expanded by Lumos3 (talk). Nominated by Lumos3 (talk) at 15:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Text in block quotes doesn't count toward prose size (see Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules A2). That's the majority of your text, though. So you'd need to significantly increase the length of the article before it meets DYK length criteria. Also, I recommend that you use templates like this one, as that makes sure that you get the nomination right (it explains, for example, what alt text is, which is missing from your nomination). Schwede66 17:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Farzat

Created by Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

20 February, Septuagesima

Nimm, was dein ist, und gehe hin, BWV 144

The workers of the Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard question their wages.

Created/expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • suggested for 6 February, date of the first performance. Reviewed: #Carex lutea --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • perhaps even better on 20 February, Septugesima of 2011, because Easter is so late. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:58, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Bach cantata for the Sunday is nominated above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is, ready to go. Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

23 February, Birthday of Handel

Handel Festival Halle

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • for 23 February, Handel's birthday, for which the article was requested. Howard Arman was expanded, but not 5x. - reviewed: Hamaxitus --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Shouldn't it be called the Handel Festival, Halle? Ericoides (talk) 14:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The older one is called Göttingen International Handel Festival (but you would not find it looking for Handel), also Handel Festival Göttingen. The third one in Germany: Karlsruhe. Talking about the Bach cantatas we went for "the least cluttered". If you have a comma in the name, you have to remember to add one after the apposition. The festival could be called just Handel Festival, because it seems to be The Handel Festival, but that would probably cause trouble in Göttingen and Karlsruhe, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • forget all that, was moved, not by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The mover's rationale was quite correct, that it might be misconstrued as "hall" (that's what I thought it would be when I clicked on the link...). Ericoides (talk) 11:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In this case (tempted to say The Handel Festival),
ALT1:... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival in Halle, where the composer was born on 23 February 1685?
Reviewed article appeared already, link changed --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are paragraphs lacking inline citations.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please check the 2nd, 5th and last paragraphs. If its separated by a space from another paragraph, it needs a citation.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • They were separated for clarity, now I moved them together or postponed, for formality. The article was originally translated from de - without any sources given but a book. I trust that the still unreferenced details are in the book. I could drop them but think they might be of interest to some readers. The prize details are in the respective de-article, the opera details in the opera-articles. - Please also consider Mr. Arman - who was up for deletion - as a 2*BLP expansion in:
ALT2:... that Howard Arman conducted George Frideric Handel's opera Tolomeo in 1996 for the Handel Festival in Halle, where the composer was born on 23 February 1685? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK good to go for either hook.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:56, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are we saving the hook for use on 23 February 16852011? --PFHLai (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds reasonable to me. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:16, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Moved then, prefer ALT2, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Therefore crossed out the others and added DYKmake, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

28 February

Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence

A group of people is gathered in lines: military personel, civilians, clergy. A flag with is waving on the left and a river is seen on the background.

Created/expanded by CrazyMartini (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting and clear. Length and date verified. One source in German accepted in good faith. Good to go. Aridd (talk) 21:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please hold. This article seems to be a content fork of the existing Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus, and has POV problems. See talk page.--Brunswick Dude (talk) 23:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

March 1

Blue Ribbon Bacon Festival

Created by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 15:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

reviewed Casper the Commuting Cat,Casper (cat) hereWorm 16:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


June 19

Rizal Day

A stone pylon with two gold stars at the sides, below of which are inscribed "A Jose Rizal".

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive [1][2] after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

  • ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also