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Numerals
Numerals seem to be missing
Reduction in article length
The article is huge, over 200 KB, more than double the threshold given at WP:SIZESPLIT for "Almost certainly should be divided".
I propose the following:
- Split the Spanish language#Spanish speakers by country table to its own article. That takes up about 68 KB.
- The section Spanish language#Dialectal variation is 22 KB. It's a lot longer than the summary that it should be given that it has a main article, Spanish dialects and varieties, associated with it. Cut it way down, moving to the main article any details that aren't already there.
These measures would chop 80+ KB out of this article, though still leaving it at over 100 KB. Comments on these suggestions? Any other ideas for slimming this article down? Largoplazo (talk) 12:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's ok with me. --Jotamar (talk) 22:14, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I concur with the first change (removing the huge table from the article) to begin with something. I however think that the section Spanish language#Geographical distribution requires both expansion (particularly the Europe and Hispanic America subsections) and trimming (the Philippines section). Regarding the second point I also agree to some extent: I suggest to trim the morphology bit in particular, there has to be a more succint way to comment on nuances on second person differences. No table displaying conjugations is really required in the main article either way. --Asqueladd (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @Moalli: in case they have something to add.--Asqueladd (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with the proposal of moving the Spanish language#Spanish speakers by country table to its own article, similar to how the Geographical distribution of French speakers article is structured. The table is excessive for this article's scope, not to mention filled with questionable and outdated sources.
- On a similar note, I too find the Philippines section in Spanish language#Geographical distribution too long for the language's current status and level of importance. Spanish is practically extinct there nowadays no matter how much so-called "Hispanistas" try to revise the article by adding non-credible biased sources. The bulk of that section would also be better placed in a separate geographical distribution of Spanish speakers article or simply redirected to Spanish language in the Philippines. The geographical distribution section should only be providing a summary and brief history of Spanish in various regions, along with any unique characteristics. - Moalli (talk) 00:27, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Moalli:. I think we have a sort of a consensus in some aspects brewing in here.--Asqueladd (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- I removed the speakers table as per this talk page thread. I tried to pull a trimmed down version of the Philippines subsection, insofar there was WP:BALASP issues vis-à-vis the rest of the geographical distribution section (particularly taking into account the arguably moribund status of Spanish language there). What do you think [1]?--Asqueladd (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Moalli:. I think we have a sort of a consensus in some aspects brewing in here.--Asqueladd (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @Moalli: in case they have something to add.--Asqueladd (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- I concur with the first change (removing the huge table from the article) to begin with something. I however think that the section Spanish language#Geographical distribution requires both expansion (particularly the Europe and Hispanic America subsections) and trimming (the Philippines section). Regarding the second point I also agree to some extent: I suggest to trim the morphology bit in particular, there has to be a more succint way to comment on nuances on second person differences. No table displaying conjugations is really required in the main article either way. --Asqueladd (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
"The most common language in Mexico" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect The most common language in Mexico. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 27#The most common language in Mexico until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Loafiewa (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Equatorial Guinea
The article's infobox states that the Spanish language is native to Spain, Hispanic America and Equatorial Guinea. However, this is not quite right. Not only is Spanish not a 'native' language of the country, it is also only spoken by 66.7% of Equatorial Guineans, mostly as a Lingua Franca among ethnic groups, according to Wikipedia's article on Equatorial Guinea. I believe it would be wiser to omit Equatorial Guinea from the 'native to' part of the infobox, but I wish to consult this first and see other opinions. KOSƧIO (talk) 20:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I've removed it. The problem was that the infobox field name is states but what it visualizes is Native to. Perhaps EG should be included in some other infobox field, but not in this one. --Jotamar (talk) 22:55, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I've removed the full content of the parametre (I recall having done this already once or twice). Insofar it aims towards maximum gatekeeping, it mixes one sovereign country with a somewhat moot cultural (tangentially geographical) concept. Please take note that the parametre is counter-intuitively named "states". It henceforth leaves out the US, Andorra and Belize, which are not "Spain" nor "Hispanic America", but where there are a very substantial number of native speakers (conversely adding Equatorial Guinea where, as stated above these lines, Spanish is widely spoken but it is the native language of virtually not a single person). If we refer to regions (not states), Spanish is primarily a native language of the Americas and Europe (specifically Iberia), but also North-Africa. Insofar the language is somewhat global and we have this discussion largely reduplicated for another similar "ever-changing" infobox parametre, this issue (the attempt for a well-fitted gatekeeping in this parametre) can be also rendered as "unwise". I mean, particularly as long as "significant minority" countries are featured in the other parametre (they probably should not, by the way) this discussion is a waste.--Asqueladd (talk) 00:16, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Spanish language map of the world
In the map of the world, the color codes are incorrectly assigned as to where Spanish is spoken. 88.159.135.169 (talk) 11:38, 29 June 2022 (UTC)