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::The comment is here so that users can be on the lookout for additional sock puppets that might try to disrupt the page. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 19:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::The comment is here so that users can be on the lookout for additional sock puppets that might try to disrupt the page. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 19:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:::'''Note:''' {{user|Belladana}} has been blocked as a sock of {{user|Barnham}}, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ABelladana blocklog]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 01:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::'''Note:''' {{user|Belladana}} has been blocked as a sock of {{user|Barnham}}, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ABelladana blocklog]. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 01:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== So we do have something to discuss, after all ==

On November 9, 2009, at 0433 hours, a Wikipedian undid my much-discussed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=324783983&oldid=324763226 edits] to this article, claiming "violation of RFC". When I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=331379220&oldid=324783983 reverted] "in the light of archived talk-page discussion" the same Wikipedian promptly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=next&oldid=331379220 re-reverted], once again appealing to "violation of RFC" and referred vaguely [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pedant17&diff=331424893&oldid=331241366 on my talk-page] to "non-consensus edits to the article [[Outrageous Betrayal]]". -- As the Wikipedia policy [[WP:CCC]] states: '"according to consensus" and "violates consensus" are not valid rationales for making or reverting an edit, or for accepting or rejecting other forms of proposal or action'. So I call for further discussion on the evolved proposed improvements. Let's return to the point where I last [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=314867958&oldid=313832314 appealed for discussion and answers to queries] -- before a fellow-editor arbitrarily [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=next&oldid=314867958 declared] the matter resolved by the previous RfC (despite ongoing discussion) and effectively closed down discussion as "not productive or constructive" and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Outrageous_Betrayal&diff=next&oldid=314901305 archived] the talk-page. -- [[User:Pedant17|Pedant17]] ([[User talk:Pedant17|talk]]) 19:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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Good articleOutrageous Betrayal has been listed as one of the Language and literature good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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November 20, 2007Good article nomineeListed
November 22, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
Current status: Good article

Full cite

  • For Wikipedia editors, if you need to cite this book somewhere, here is the full cite:
  • Pressman, Steven (1993). Outrageous Betrayal: The Dark Journey of Werner Erhard from est to Exile. New York: St. Martin's Press. p. 289. ISBN 0-312-09296-2. OCLC 27897209.
  • And the code to use - Just change the page number to the specific page, or add {{rp|page number}} immediately next to it with, replacing "page number" with the specific page number or page range from the book:
  • {{cite book | last = Pressman | first = Steven | authorlink = Steven Pressman | title = [[Outrageous Betrayal|Outrageous Betrayal: The Dark Journey of Werner Erhard from est to Exile]] | publisher = [[St. Martin's Press]] | year = 1993 | location = [[New York]] | pages = 289 | isbn = 0-312-09296-2|id=[[OCLC]] [http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/27897209 27897209]}}

Notice re Checkuser case

A recent checkuser case resulted in "confirm" on several users as sockpuppets of each other, that edited articles on closely related topics including Landmark Education, Werner Erhard, Landmark Education litigation, Scientology and Werner Erhard, Erhard Seminars Training, and Werner Erhard and Associates, among others. As a result, several of these users and sockpuppets of each other have been blocked. The checkuser case page is here: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Eastbayway. Cirt (talk) 15:12, 4 October 2108 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this comment here? None of the users in that case ever edited here. Is it simply that the editor above (Cirt) has an agenda and is looking for an argument? It looks like it from the large amount of editing the they have done here. Kinda weird. Looks like a desire to create controversy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Belladana (talk • contribs) 19:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The comment is here so that users can be on the lookout for additional sock puppets that might try to disrupt the page. Jehochman Talk 19:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Belladana (talk · contribs) has been blocked as a sock of Barnham (talk · contribs), see blocklog. Cirt (talk) 01:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So we do have something to discuss, after all

On November 9, 2009, at 0433 hours, a Wikipedian undid my much-discussed edits to this article, claiming "violation of RFC". When I reverted "in the light of archived talk-page discussion" the same Wikipedian promptly re-reverted, once again appealing to "violation of RFC" and referred vaguely on my talk-page to "non-consensus edits to the article Outrageous Betrayal". -- As the Wikipedia policy WP:CCC states: '"according to consensus" and "violates consensus" are not valid rationales for making or reverting an edit, or for accepting or rejecting other forms of proposal or action'. So I call for further discussion on the evolved proposed improvements. Let's return to the point where I last appealed for discussion and answers to queries -- before a fellow-editor arbitrarily declared the matter resolved by the previous RfC (despite ongoing discussion) and effectively closed down discussion as "not productive or constructive" and archived the talk-page. -- Pedant17 (talk) 19:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]