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Some of the European entries are apparently counting people from the Maghreb. Those are North Africans, not sub-Saharan Africans - i.e., they aren't "black". 69.129.36.50 (talk) 20:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Italy there are 2,670,514 black people!! not 800,000! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.255.69 (talk) 20:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You absolutely must source this, or regular editors will continue to revert you, as we have been doing for days.--Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 20:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i' am sorry!! but now i am ready, the number is 2,670,514! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.228.49 (talk) 20:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is your published source? --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 20:49, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i don' t andesteand, i' am from Italy, soy i speak Italian!! please help me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.245.25 (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell us where is your number published? Dov'è 2.670.514 pubblicato? ~Amatulić (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok right, is African immigrants to Italy!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.245.25 (talk) 21:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please is true, in Italy there are 2,670,514!! Demo ISAT Statistiche!! don't stop me now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.245.25 (talk) 21:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that article cites http://demo.istat.it/str2006/ as the source for the number, which reports 2,670,514 non-citizen foreign residents from African countries in 2006. The original cited source http://noi-italia.istat.it does not quote numbers, only percentages and numbers per 1000 population. I can only conclude that the number from that source was derived.

I am disturbed by the subdomain 'demo' in the source that provides a number. I'd like to see some other editor's opinions. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you vary much=)!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.245.25 (talk) 21:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC) NO is immposible!! is http://demo.istat.it/str2006/ please now, the black paople are 2,670,514 i don' t think soy 800,000 is vary long for now!! in Italy today there are more black people. plesa!! in france there are 3,000,0000 not 4,200,000!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.36.10.128 (talk) 00:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite. That 2 million+ figure at http://demo.istat.it/str2006/ is a reference to all immigrants to Italy from Africa, not blacks exclusively. And most immigrants to Italy from Africa are from North Africa, not Black Africa, as that same website makes clear. 74.12.222.239 (talk) 01:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I find it strange that the article refers to "Africans" inclusively, yet the table of figures has a column for "Black Africans". I wonder why. I suspect many of the other numbers in that table represent all Africans rather than just Black Africans. The entire table may be flawed in its implementation.

So the original 800,000 figure is questionable (derived via original research), and the 2.67 million figure is also questionable because it includes non-black Africans.

In any case, the source breaks it down by country, so it's easy to eliminate all the countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea (Morocco, Algeria, Egypt, etc.). Pretty much everyone south of those countries would be considered black, I think. ~Amatulić (talk) 03:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I lighten the text a little bit by removing the constant use of the "Black" before the word "African". I think the fact that those Africans were black is abundantly clear by the context of this article and is considered the common use of the word. See the AU definition in the current article for example. Analyzer99 (talk) 12:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In italy there are 2,670,514 africans!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.230.81 (talk) 13:04, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And in France are 3,000,000 mllion, is not true 4,200,000!! tha africans include,

in Italy are 2,670,514 million.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.233.71 (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

I'm not sure if this point applies to diaspora groups in other countries but in the U.K. it is now generally preferred if we refer to African-Caribbeans as opposed to Afro-Caribbean, as used in the article. This is similar to African-American, whereas one would not hear the term Afro-American and the use of the prefix Afro may be seen to have offensive connotations.

Atteridgeville (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Africans immigrants in Italy 2010, are 1 milion!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.240.138 (talk) 15:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please!! control in Demo ISTAT 2009 stranieri residenti in Italia!!the africans are 931,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.248.141 (talk) 21:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please!! Some LOGIC. 931,000 is number with Moroccans, Tunisians, Egyptians, Algerians and Lybians. YOU MUST READ THE ARTICLE!!! In table we have title: "BLACK AND BLACK MIXED POPULTION"!!! The Term "African Diaspora" is applied to sub-saharan Africans. 931,000 - North africa + Caribbean = about 300,000. Use your brain! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.113.100.34 (talk) 10:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

control!!! http://demo,istat.it/str2009/index.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.253.238 (talk) 00:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

The total are 931,000 Africans in Italy in 2009!! please control in demo ISTAT 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.35.229.91 (talk) 14:24, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

931,000 is number with Moroccans, Tunisians, Egyptians, Algerians and Lybians. YOU MUST READ THE ARTICLE!!! In table we have title: "BLACK AND BLACK MIXED POPULTION"!!! The Term "African Diaspora" is applied to sub-saharan Africans. 931,000 - North africa + Caribbean = about 300,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecsperto (talk • contribs) 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]