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Return from exile?[edit]
Hi Tamzin, I would like to return to Wikipedia, but first I need to better understand your rationale for banning me. You criticized me for actions that I took in an attempt to improve Wikipedia's somewhat toxic culture, and I thought that everything I was doing was well within the bounds of the policies and guidelines. You accused me of stirring drama
, but I am still unclear how editors are supposed to resolve user conduct disputes without others finding such confrontation disruptive. I hope to once again be a productive contributor to the project. — Freoh 00:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Freoh. I am no longer an admin, and am not participating in administrative discussions. You can submit an unblock request through the normal system. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 03:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Freoh (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I believe that I was mistakenly blocked. An administrator blocked me for stirring drama
and declined to explain further. My intention was and is to productively contribute to Wikipedia and encourage a civil atmosphere of collaboration. I have heeded prior advice from administrators and focused on content for the most part. Banning editors who express minority opinions simply because other editors respond with personal attacks is counterproductive. — Freoh 13:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Accept reason:
You are only blocked from the user talk, Wikipedia, and Wikipedia talk namespaces. What edits do you need to make in those namespaces? 331dot (talk) 13:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- 331dot, I plan to use those namespaces in the same ways that other editors use them, similarly to how I used them before my expulsion: encouraging newcomers, contributing to consensus in centralized discussions, politely reminding others of the civility policy, awarding barnstars, removing personal attacks, et cetera. — Freoh 14:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's a general answer; I was looking for a more specific answer. Is there a particular edit you want to make right now if you could? 331dot (talk) 15:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I would like to leave a farewell message at User talk:Larataguera, who seems to have left the project dispirited a few months after I was forced out. We were both trying to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia, and I had a lot of positive interactions with them. I hope to encourage them to return at some point. — Freoh 17:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- (Personal attack removed) Display name 99 (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I would like to leave a farewell message at User talk:Larataguera, who seems to have left the project dispirited a few months after I was forced out. We were both trying to counter systemic bias on Wikipedia, and I had a lot of positive interactions with them. I hope to encourage them to return at some point. — Freoh 17:58, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's a general answer; I was looking for a more specific answer. Is there a particular edit you want to make right now if you could? 331dot (talk) 15:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Freoh (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I would like to return to Wikipedia with the usual editing privileges. I hope to participate in centralized discussions such as WP:RFA2024/I and WP:NPOV/N. I will continue to adhere to WP:RUCD and other relevant policies, and I will continue to adhere to the guidance that administrators have given me in the past. I still would appreciate an administrator explanation for my original ban, as it seems that there is an unwritten stirring drama
exception to the WP:RUCD policy that should be clarified, so that future editors do not fall into the same trap. — Freoh 01:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You don't seem to understand why you were blocked. Without understanding that, it is likely you will return to the behavior that got you blocked in the first place. You also have not edited more than a handful of times since you were blocked. That does not give us any practical evidence of what your future edits will be like. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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Freoh (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
stirring drama,[1][2] and in the future I can include an extra sentence designed to clarify my positive intentions, like
I say this not to attack any administrator personally, but rather to voice potential negative effects of the proposed administrative action.I can also try to make my discussions of user conduct more lighthearted using templates like {{Trout}}. Also, I did not realize that the policy forbade removing personal attacks from the talkpages of other users, so I will refrain from doing this in the future. I would like to once again be a productive contributor to the project, but not under a badge of shame that disrupts my access to centralized discussions like WP:NPOV/N and WP:RFA2024/I. — Freoh 02:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=I would like to return to Wikipedia with the usual editing priviliges. [[User:Tamzin|Tamzin]], I am sorry if my opposition to your administrative proposal came across as <q class="inline-quote-talk ">stirring drama</q>,[1][2] and in the future I can include an extra sentence designed to clarify my positive intentions, like <q class="inline-quote-talk ">I say this not to attack any administrator personally, but rather to voice potential negative effects of the proposed administrative action.</q> I can also try to make my discussions of user conduct more lighthearted using templates like {{[[Template:Trout|Trout]]}}. Also, I did not realize that the policy forbade removing personal attacks from the talkpages of other users, so I will refrain from doing this in the future. I would like to once again be a productive contributor to the project, but not under a badge of shame that disrupts my access to centralized discussions like [[WP:NPOV/N]] and [[WP:RFA2024/I]]. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Freoh|Freoh]]</span> 02:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=I would like to return to Wikipedia with the usual editing priviliges. [[User:Tamzin|Tamzin]], I am sorry if my opposition to your administrative proposal came across as <q class="inline-quote-talk ">stirring drama</q>,[1][2] and in the future I can include an extra sentence designed to clarify my positive intentions, like <q class="inline-quote-talk ">I say this not to attack any administrator personally, but rather to voice potential negative effects of the proposed administrative action.</q> I can also try to make my discussions of user conduct more lighthearted using templates like {{[[Template:Trout|Trout]]}}. Also, I did not realize that the policy forbade removing personal attacks from the talkpages of other users, so I will refrain from doing this in the future. I would like to once again be a productive contributor to the project, but not under a badge of shame that disrupts my access to centralized discussions like [[WP:NPOV/N]] and [[WP:RFA2024/I]]. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:Freoh|Freoh]]</span> 02:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
- Your request is open and visible; what makes you think it isn't? 331dot (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- DeltaQuadBot did not include me in User:AmandaNP/unblock table, so I was unsure if administrators would see my request. If you say that it is visible, then I assume someone will get to it eventually. Thanks for the confirmation! — Freoh 18:43, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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