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Dick Ballantine[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Nothing found to offer for the consideration of notability per the inclusion criteria JMWt (talk) 13:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Radical pro-Beijing camp[edit]

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Blatant content fork of Pro-Beijing camp (Hong Kong). The sources that do exist, almost all of which are media sources rather than academic, mostly provide the WP:SKYBLUE statement that some members of the pro-Beijing camp hold more radical politics than others. The sources do not support that this is a distinct political formation from the pro-Beijing camp. Simonm223 (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• comment: my apologies for the linking issues which I've tried to fix. I think I may have had a slip-up with the capitalization of "camp" in one instance somewhere" Simonm223 (talk) 13:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Pro-Beijing camp (Hong Kong) - Although the article is a stub and not deserving of a separate page, it is an important political term and is easily coverable within the main article. Royz-vi Tsibele (talk) 13:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bennington Street[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing anything much to count towards the inclusion criteria on en.wiki but interested to see if anyone else can find anything JMWt (talk) 11:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Beni Ebeid Stadium[edit]

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing much which could be included however the sources may not be in English. JMWt (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Myth (band)[edit]

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Very little coverage on the web. Being a support act and esp. for tribute bands does not establish notability per WP:BAND. Previous AfD nomination was closed due to prior vandalism on the page. InDimensional (talk) 11:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak Keep - Their bland name makes searching tough, but a search for individual members leads to a few minor newspaper articles in their country: [1], [2], [3], [4]. Those have some basic info but are not very descriptive about the band's entire history. There may be enough for a stub article here, per a generous reading of the coverage requirements in WP:NBAND. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kępniak, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship[edit]

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Likely fails WP:NGEO. More details at pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2024:04:07:Kępniak (osada) but TL;DR - former settlement that nothing is known about except that it existed c. 1921, we don't even know exactly where (somewhere in a particular county, probably). No evidence that it was ever permanently inhabited, it could have been a single house or business or who knows what. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yapping[edit]

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A WP:DICTDEF and examples of recent usage; maybe it could be merged somewhere, but not enough content besides the examples to merit an article. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 10:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge into List of Generation Z slang. Subject not notable enough for own article. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 10:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Comment: It appears in List of Generation Z slang, but I do not believe it should redirect there - redlink and letting search do its thing would be a better option. Gen Z didn't start until the mid-90s, but Ngrams suggest that an earlier generation is more responsible for popularising the term from the start of the rise in 1996 through to its (current) peak in ~2012 than Gen Z is. 13:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Cost price[edit]

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PROD was removed, reason given: Remove PROD tag - may be notable. This is a problematic, unreferenced article about a topic that may or may not also be covered elsewhere. That said, corresponding articles in other Wikipedias are referenced. Recommend discussion at AfD, hopefully with some economists’ input. This makes sense to me. I couldn't establish that it was notable, or be sure it wasn't covered elsewhere. Boleyn (talk) 08:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. Passes WP:GNG. Wikipedia:Deletion is not cleanup. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Reads like a junior school essay to be honest. Net cost is a thing, basically what you buy an item for from wholesalers before resale to the public, but this isn't describing that. Oaktree b (talk) 22:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per Oaktree and WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to cost. I think cost price could and should be a concept that there is encyclopedic content about on Wikipedia, beyond that of a dictionary entry. I looked at Britannica for comparison. However the current article has no footnotes so it is difficult to see what is sourced and what is not. I've suggested merge, though it would have to be done by someone who could add inline citations at the same time, probably with reference to the source materials in the current general references, if that's possible. Otherwise, I expect others will argue there's no properly referenced material to merge. To which I would argue WP:MINREF. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Curb Safe Charmer, could you strike one of your "votes"? Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Elizabeth Leitman[edit]

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Unnotable, not notable outside of one event so fails WP:BLP1E at best. 100.12.36.99 (talk) 08:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Storm Prediction Center#Brief history timeline which covers the contents of this stub. She is the first woman at the SPC to issue such a warning, but I suspect that she is not the first woman worldwide to do so (eg Sue Barrell), and even if she were WP:BLP1E would still apply. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 13:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I second that. Redirect, good idea. Masterhatch (talk) 13:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of types of websites[edit]

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Weird meta-list that violates WP:NLIST and WP:OR. Almost completely unreferenced, there is no criteria regarding what kind of typology is used to describe the concept of type of a website. Some are red links (or would be if linked), like Affiliate agency, Membership website, Brand-building site, etc. Totally random and missing other types (ex. porn site). The latter is mentioned in the ORish inclusion-criteria lead as specifically not mentioned as it is a type of e-commerce website, but other e-commerce websites are listed, ex. Comparison shopping website. This is a mess that needs to be retired. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:48, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - we don't keep random stuff WP:NOTEVERYTHING JMWt (talk) 09:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in India[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Vietnam[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Thailand[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sports broadcasting contracts in Poland[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment. While I agree this is problematic, I think we need a mass nomination and discussion for all entries in Category:Sports broadcasting contracts by country (due to, well, what is a Sports broadcasting contract - it is a red link here, so why do we need lists of a concept we have not even defined yet or shown it is notable?). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Sweden[edit]

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, the only sources is a news announcement and does not assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of chat websites[edit]

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Unreferenced since 2013. Time to go for violating WP:V/WP:LISTN? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Its a valid navigational list. Category:Chat websites exist. Lists are always more useful than categories as they allow more information to be listed. And WP:LISTN clearly states There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists and Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. For years now these sorts of list have always been kept when sent to AFD. Dream Focus 14:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Phil Winston[edit]

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No significant independent sources to satisfy WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Does not meet WP:GNG as has no independent, verifiable references. MountClew (talk) 11:03, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Google search shows entirely nothing from Independent sources, apart from press releases. Does not convince much of WP:GNG. Ping me if sources are found -- Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biopharma LLC[edit]

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I have previously nominated this for PROD (and also for SD, before that), but the nomination wasn't deemed uncontroversial enough and I was advised to open an AfD. The rationale is the same as in the PROD nomination:

I would like to renominate the article for deletion again, on the grounds of WP:G5. I agree that my SD nomination was too early. The only substantial edits to this page were by confirmed sockpuppets of Bodiadub and Yuraprox, and User:1sonng. I think that 1sonng is a sockpuppet of Yuraprox for reasons written in this SPI. (The said SPI had been closed because 1sonng hadn't edited for a long time.) If you disagree with my judgement of 1sonng, feel free to deprod. I do not think edits of any other users to this article are significant.

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Mark C. Brickell[edit]

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Lack of WP:SIGCOV about this person. HenryMP02 (talk) 05:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Credibly (company)[edit]

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I think this fails WP:NCORP as the sources aren't reliable, although I'm more willing to be proven wrong than usual as they at least don't outright look like paid placements. I think the best three sources are the reviews of their business loan products by Money, Forbes, and Newsweek. I'm unclear if money.com is reliable, I'm unclear if "Personal Finance Writer" and "Loans Writer" on forbes.com is WP:FORBESCON or not, and I don't know what "Contributor" entails on post-2013 WP:NEWSWEEK. The rest of the sources are PR reprints, and some awards that I don't think give notability. ~ A412 ^talk! 06:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leah (The Walking Dead)[edit]

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Non-notable Walking Dead character all sources are either episode reviews or interviews with the actress. Fictional history is all unsourced . Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep if more sources are found, otherwise merge to List of The Walking Dead (TV series) characters. BOZ (talk) 06:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Per WP:SIGCOV, Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Multiple of the episode reviews cited substantially treat the Leah character. Per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, a plot synopsis does not need to be sourced with in-line citations, as it is generally assumed that the work itself is the primary source for the plot summary (though the synopses in the Leah article do need to be substantially shorter). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aspen Distillers[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP as only having local coverage from Aspen news sources and PR reprints. ~ A412 ^talk! 05:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• note :.It must be rewritten again and searched for secondary sources،GQO (talk) 7:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

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This Summer (Squeeze song)[edit]

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Not a very searchable name, but I scoured regardless and couldn't turn up any sources. For a band as big as this one, I would think the lead single of any album of theirs would get more coverage, but perhaps it's just not archived. Anyone with access to '90s copies of NME or Kerrang! (or whatever else) please give them a check. If not, this should be redirected to Ridiculous (album) as it does not show clear notability as is. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kontakt.io[edit]

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:SIRS. Has not been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Contested draftification. Jfire (talk) 04:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ChinaCast Education[edit]

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The article says ChinaCast Education Corporation is the leading for-profit provider of post-secondary education and e-learning services in the People's Republic of China. However, no information can be found on Chinese search engines, and in fact, the media does not continue to focus on this for-profit learning organisation, which is in line with Wikipedia:Notability.Zhuo1221 (talk) 05:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. The article needs major work, as it is basically just a promotional piece at this point. However, it is absolutely trivial to find sources reporting on this company 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. It is clear that no WP:BEFORE was done here. The sources being old ("the media does not continue to focus on this for-profit learning organisation") isn't relevant, as notability doesn't expire. Cortador (talk) 09:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The sources found by Cortador demonstrate that ChinaCast Education passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria. Cunard (talk) 10:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Killing of Laban[edit]

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Article recently created by disclosed paid editors from BYU. Despite the extensive references, most scholarship on the Book of Mormon is conducted by Mormons so whether WP:INDY sourcing requirement is met is unclear. For example, Catholicism and Judaism, among others, have produced vast bodies of scholarship on the details of their own religion, but only the clearly notable topics of Catholic canon law or Jewish exegetical literature are summarized here for the non-specialist reader.

While a proposed merge to First Nephi would also have been a reasonable course, I believe a full AfD is more likely to attract more independent comments and form a clearer community consensus. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 14:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. TechBear | Talk | Contributions 20:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep So, there are some questionable sources. Irreantum is the publication for the Association for Mormon Letters, and it is not peer-reviewed. However, it is a literary journal, and it is used as a source just in the "Literary and artistic representations" section. That seems like an appropriate use of the source--for the existence of literature about the killing of Laban. Similarly, seeing The Ensign as a source gives me pause, but the text of the Wikipedia article attributes the author as an LDS apostle in-text. Full disclosure: My friend and expert in Book of Mormon studies created this page at my encouragement (so, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to vote in this discussion; if that's the case, consider this a comment). I would like to hear what other Wikipedians think! We need to develop more consensus about sources for LDS topics. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This article is part of a broader discussion within the LDS wikispace pertaining to sources, contributions by individual editors, etc. As it stands, the article appears to have the following sources:
  • #1 through #7 - referencing the BOM directly. These are WP:PRIMARY references.
  • #8 - summary of the topic in a section of a scholarly book, no connection to the topic.
  • #9 - peer-reviewed article on the topic from an academic journal published by University of Illinois Press on behalf of the Neal A. Maxwell Institute at BYU. Part of the broader sourcing discussion.
  • #10 - article on the subject from an independent journal in the space. No other concerns.
  • #11 -article that references the subject as a part of broader claims. No other concerns.
  • #12 - book referencing the subject as a part of broader claims. No other concerns.
  • #13 - book of mormon textbook published by the LDS Church. This is not an WP:INDEPENDENT source.
  • #14 - church magazine article published by the LDS Church. Similarly not independent.
  • #15 - book published by the Maxwell Institute. Part of the broader discussion.
  • #16 - church magazine article, see #14
  • #17 - same publication as #9
  • #18 through #22 - references to the subject published in the Irreantum newsletter published by the Association of Mormon Letters. Part of the broader discussion, exact status still in debate.
  • #23 - BYU address given by LDS apostle. Not independent.
  • #24 - article referring to the subject from an independent journal. No other concerns.

In summary, this article has references that fall into three categories - primary sources and those closely associated with the LDS church, references that have some connection with the LDS community and are part of a broader discussion in regards to their position on Wikipedia, and independent sources that have no connection to the LDS church outside of this topic. In my view, there is a lot of work to be done to make sure that references and articles are used and written in a WP:NPOV and independent manner. However, references such as #10, 11, 12, and #24 are indicative of this part of the Book of Mormon being a scholarly important part of the broader narrative. These are examples of various authors using the Book of Mormon narrative as a primary source to help draw conclusions related to their various secondary conclusions, allowing Wikipedia to draw tertiary summaries from these articles. Could this article use additional rewrite? Absolutely. But it does not need to be deleted, at least as far as these sources are concerned. Rollidan (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment If this article is kept, it should be subject to heavy cleanup tags and extensive trimming. Lots of issues with WP:UNDUE and WP:PRIMARY, and by extension, WP:NPOV. On the other hand, the idea of the Killing of Laban providing justification for later Blood Atonement is interesting, could counterbalance the prevailing pro-LDS POV, and could provide justification for the notability of the article as a whole. Those thoughts should remain and perhaps even be expanded if possible. Trevdna (talk) 19:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete/merge, as Trevdna notes the stuff about Blood Atonement is interesting and should probably be expanded upon if possible... However I think that should happen at Blood Atonement not here, other parts could go other places. I don't think that we have enough significant coverage of the topic in independent RS... Rollidan does a decent job addressing independence, but they stop there and don't examine whether or not the coverage is significant. I'm just not seeing it/ Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Excellent point. Changing my comment vote to a Delete/merge vote as well. Blood atonement#Historical and doctrinal background seems a handy place for this information, which can be covered there quite nicely. Mormonism and violence is another obvious candidate location. Other than that, there's nothing really notable in this article from an independent standpoint. Trevdna (talk) 18:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kwaku Mills[edit]

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Article a non-notable film actor. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:SIGCOV, he has only played minor roles in movies/series, some of which don't even credit him. The author seems very desperate to get this article up despite being declined in Draftspace and also placed an AFC template showing the article was approved when infact it was never approved. Jamiebuba (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Trivial coverage of his roles [5], in a list of other actors in the series. Only mentioned here [6] for a stage play and an interview for the play (behind a paywall, it's been archived here) [7]. I also would have done a PROD on this, not notable per our standards and a lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 21:31, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The subject is clearly a notable cast addition to a notable TV series. I have now added multiple reliable, independent sources that show he is one of the main characters. He appears in 'first look' imagery for the show, and as part of a group of 3 other actors announced as joining the series (who all have wikipedia entires) clearly suggesting his role as significant and noteworthy to the series.

I have added further sources that reference the stage plays mentioned. From a quick online search I can see he has clearly been in further stage productions, there are multiple reviews in reputable papers. I included these in a previous Draftspace article but was told by you that it seemed promotional, so I removed them.

I have removed mentions of his minor roles or any that don't credit him.

I must apologise for placing an AFC template on my previous draftspace article. I am new to all this and obviously still learning. I thought a move to mainspace was an action I was allowed to take. Once informed otherwise I removed it from mainspace.

I decided to delete my previous draft, and be bold and try to publish my first mainspace article. I would ask that you remember Wikipedia's guideline 'not to bite the newcomers'. Your claim that i seem 'very desperate' seems rather personal, and discouraging to a new editor. JodieGarcelle (talk) 10:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I don’t think the subject has met the requirements for WP:NACTOR at this time.Contributor892z (talk) 03:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete A search shows only trivia, passing mentions, press releases, etc., than deep coverage from Independent sources. -- Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Real Kerala Story[edit]

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Hopelessly non-neutral. Reads like an essay and seems to be composed mostly of OR and SYNTH. — Callitropsis🌲[talk · contribs] 05:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep This is not an original research WP:OR article, but prepared by reference, India is generally known as a secular nation, but nowadays channels and websites are proving that it is a false news, only in some states in India, secularism exists, the ruling government and related organizations are eliminating secularism, but in Kerala , secularism is still strong. But Hindi movies and other political programs and IT cells supported by the Indian government are trying to destroy secularism and sectarianism in Kerala [8], stories are being spread that 32,000 people have gone to Islamic state in Kerala after the release of 2023 Hindi movie [9]], Hindus are not safe in Kerala, there is actually Hindu Muslim friendship in Kerala. This article tells the truth about it[10], struggles and arguments are going on in this name, Kerala government, chief minister [11] and other political leaders are supporting the The 'Real' Kerala Story. ~ Spworld2 (talk) 11:50, 08 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cumeni[edit]

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No independent secondary sources seem to cover this town in depth. Redirect to the book of mormon. Big Money Threepwood (talk) 05:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Chinese opening[edit]

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This article introduces the Chinese flow of Go layout, from the origin to the development and improvement of the process of integration into AI But I think this point is not necessary, because the link point is in Chinese, and the website information is also inaccurate. So I think it can be deleted. Linziyu1823 (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I think you may have inserted the wrong page into the template. You used Talk:Chinese opening instead of Chinese opening. HenryMP02 (talk) 06:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep (Chinese opening) - I don't understand the nom reasoning and whilst the current sourcing seems imperfect, there seems to be plenty of reason to think the topic is notable. JMWt (talk) 09:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Catch! Teenieping[edit]

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This page use many invaild sources. When you click on a page, there are also invalid pages. Guidelines have not been significantly addressed in reliable secondary sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Hkm5420 (talk) 05:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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3030 Press[edit]

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The article lacks official information.And less well-known.On the Web, the company's information can only be found on Facebook.The company cannot be found on well-known websites such as Google Scholar.The introduction is similarly brief, with no important citations AYAO32269 (talk) 05:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Huang Shi An[edit]

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Although he was a Chinese calligrapher, I did not find any reliable information on relevant Chinese websites, fit with Wikipedia:Notability WANGYIFAN2024 (talk) 04:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chinese opening[edit]

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This article introduces the Chinese flow of Go layout, from the origin to the development and improvement of the process of integration into AI, which I think is very necessary. Because Weiqi is one of China's traditional culture and has a long history, with the development of modern times, Weiqi techniques will also develop with the progress of science and technology, and be integrated with science and technology. Linziyu1823 (talk) 04:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. The so-called Chinese opening pattern in go (game) is clearly notable, many books having been written about it. The basis of this nomination is unclear. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:48, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I am confused. The nominator does not give any reason why this article should be deleted. The nominator's comments seem to prove that this article should be kept, not deleted.--Neo-Jay (talk) 07:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Procedural keep, this is a nomination by a brand-new editor who I suspect has no idea what AfD is for. I am not convinced they actually know that they were nominating an article to be deleted. Elemimele (talk) 09:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ivona Turčinović[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a Montenegrin women's footballer, to meet WP:GNG. I found some transactional announcements (1, 2, 3), as well as a few sentences of coverage from her exploits in Italian futsal (1, 2), but no WP:SIGCOV in my opinion. JTtheOG (talk) 04:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 08:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No significant coverage from Independent sources of the subject. Does not convince much of WP:SIGCOV. I learning towards delete for now. If someone manages to dig deeper and finds sources that convince WP:SIGCOV, please ping me. I might change my vote.-- Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huaguoyuan Towers[edit]

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The Huaguoyuan Tower is a pair of super tall skyscrapers located in Guiyang, Guizhou, China. However, I couldn't find a lot of relevant information on Chinese search engines, perhaps due to translation issues. In fact, the media did not continue to pay attention to this building, which is in line with Wikipedia:Notability WANGYIFAN2024 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. I added some references from the Chinese Wikipedia. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Chen, Yue; Feng, Yan 冯艳 (2015-09-21). Zhao, Xingzhi 赵兴智 (ed.). "中国第一高——花果园双子塔封顶" [The Tallest in China - Huaguoyuan Twin Towers Topped Out]. 贵州商报 [Guizhou Business Daily] (in Chinese). Guizhou Daily. Archived from the original on 2017-06-16. Retrieved 2024-04-08.

     The article notes: "花果园双子塔坐落于贵州省最大旧城改造项目——花果园项目的核心位置，分东西两座塔楼，两塔结构高度和建筑总高度分别均为334.35米和406米，属于花果园200万平方米商业规划中最重要部分。作为贵阳未来城市的地标性建筑和贵阳城市经济发展的缩影，双子塔规划时就被赋予了“铭记加速发展、加快转型的奋进贵州”的特殊含义，奠基时更被看作是“我国西部崛起的一个标志”。"

     From Google Translate: "The Huaguoyuan Twin Towers are located at the core of the Huaguoyuan Project, the largest old city renovation project in Guizhou Province. They are divided into two towers, the east and west towers. The structural height of the two towers and the total building height are 334.35 meters and 406 meters respectively. They belong to the Huaguoyuan 2 million Square meters are the most important part of business planning. As the landmark building of Guiyang's future city and the epitome of Guiyang's urban economic development, the Twin Towers were given the special meaning of "keeping in mind the accelerating development and transformation of Guizhou" when they were planned. When the foundation was laid, they were even regarded as "the rise of western my country." a sign of"."

  2. Liu, Lihong 刘丽红 (2018-04-12). "贵阳花果园双子塔开启全球招租" [Guiyang Huaguoyuan Twin Towers opens global leasing] (in Chinese). China Internet Information Center. Archived from the original on 2024-04-08. Retrieved 2024-04-08.

     The article notes: "贵阳国际贸易中心双子塔高335米，是目前全国已经修建完成的最高“双子塔”，分为A、B两座，A座是贵阳少有的超甲级写字楼，属于贵阳写字楼的翘楚。B座则是贵阳的首家超奢华五星费尔蒙酒店及部分高端公寓。"

     From Google Translate: "The twin towers of Guiyang International Trade Center are 335 meters high and are the tallest "twin towers" that have been built in the country. They are divided into two towers, A and B. Tower A is a rare super-A office building in Guiyang and is the leader of Guiyang office buildings. Tower B is Guiyang’s first ultra-luxury five-star Fairmont hotel and some high-end apartments."

  3. "央视上演"厉害了我的国"全国33个城市地标主题灯光秀 花果园双子塔闪耀筑城" [CCTV staged "My Country is Amazing" with landmark-themed light shows in 33 cities across the country, and the Twin Towers of the Flower Orchard shimmered into the city.] (in Chinese). China Internet Information Center. 2017-10-09. Archived from the original on 2024-04-08. Retrieved 2024-04-08.

     The article notes: "贵阳花果园项目“双子塔工程”，位于贵阳市南明区花果园项目中部彭家湾地段，贵黄公路、川黔铁路和贵广高铁以北，花溪大道西侧。它以335米的建设高度成为贵阳城市的新地标。作为贵阳城市的地标性建筑和贵阳城市经济发展的缩影，双子塔规划时就被看作“我国西部崛起的一个标志”。"

     From Google Translate: "The "Twin Towers Project" of Guiyang Huaguoyuan Project is located in the Pengjiawan section of the central Huaguoyuan Project in Nanming District, Guiyang City, north of Guihuang Highway, Sichuan-Guizhou Railway and Guizhou-Guangzhou High-speed Railway, and on the west side of Huaxi Avenue. With a construction height of 335 meters, it has become a new landmark in Guiyang city. As a landmark building in Guiyang and the epitome of Guiyang's economic development, the Twin Towers were regarded as "a symbol of the rise of western my country" when they were planned."

  4. Xu, Qifei 徐其飞 (2020-08-19). Gao, Linxiao 郜林筱; Chen, Kangqing 陈康清 (eds.). "清晨登顶花果园双子塔 一览"云隙光瀑"奇观" [Climb to the top of the Huaguoyuan Twin Towers in the early morning to see the wonders of the "Light Waterfall in the Clouds"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-04-08. Retrieved 2024-04-08.

     The article notes: "站在花果园双子塔上望去，只见一束束阳光穿透云层，如从天而降的“瀑布”直泻大地。大大小小的山头在光瀑的照射下，散发出空灵、静谧的魅力。"

     From Google Translate: "Standing on the Twin Towers of Huaguoyuan, you can see beams of sunlight penetrating the clouds, like "waterfalls" falling from the sky to the earth. Under the illumination of the light waterfall, the mountains, large and small, exude an ethereal and quiet charm."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Huaguoyuan Towers (simplified Chinese: 花果园双子塔; traditional Chinese: 花果園雙子星大樓), also known as Guiyang International Trade Center (simplified Chinese: 贵阳国际贸易中心; traditional Chinese: 貴陽國際貿易中心) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 08:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Evie Dolan[edit]

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Does not appear to pass WP:GNG based on sources in article and search of Newspapers.com. Most of the sources in the article are passing mentions and the only significant coverage is from questionable sources. Additionally, the only significant contributors to the page ([12]) appear to be users with conflicts of interest. Eagles 24/7 (C) 23:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep while I agree that the article is poorly written, a Google search quickly reviews enough evidence to pass WP:SIGCOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contributor892z (talk • contribs) 13:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Contributor892z: Could you specify which sources from Google would qualify as WP:SIGCOV for the subject? I cannot locate them in my search. Eagles 24/7 (C) 13:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• [13] and [14] anyone that was a teenage girl in 2015 knew about her. @Eagles247:Contributor892z (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Contributor892z: The first link includes one trivial mention of Dolan, which does not constitute significant coverage. The second link also includes one trivial mention in a BuzzFeed-style slideshow. It is also from the New York Post, which is considered generally unreliable per WP:NYPOST. Your assertion that "anyone that was a teenage girl in 2015 knew about her" does not hold weight per WP:IKNOWIT. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Eagles247: honest question: wouldn’t someone that was the recurring face of ads with international circulation targeting a sizeable cohort of the world population be notable? Contributor892z (talk) 14:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Contributor892z: Probably not, see WP:NACTOR for a rough guideline of how actor notability can be determined. Nothing about being the face of an ad campaign. And the role she had in School of Rock was minor, so it likely wouldn't count towards the "significant roles in multiple [...] stage performances" aspect of the guideline. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Kindly note that this editor, Contributor892z, is confused about what WP:SIGCOV entails as they think google hit search count toward that. Not sure from where they got this policy. For reference please see their response at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penton Keah. FuzzyMagma (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nadia Naji[edit]

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BLP does not seem to have held any office position. Fails WP:NPOL and GNG. My WP:BEFORE search didn't bring much, which could be because of the language. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 19:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: joint president of a national party which has elected representatives to parliament. Could be expanded with sources from the nl:Nadia Naji, mostly 2022 sources so not associated with her current candidacy. PamD 08:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  PamD: Would you mind taking a deeper look at the nl:Nadia Naji's sources again? From what I can see via google translate, they only have significant coverage surrounding her election as joint president. Apart from that, I do not see significant coverage on the other sources! Also, it would be helpful if you could mention the best three sources here. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  "only have significant coverage surrounding her election as joint president": well, what's the matter with that? Coverage of her as one of the two leaders of an established political party. De Standaard, which we call a "quality newspaper", has a piece about her marriage, which also suggests a level of notability. PamD 16:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  PamD: Thank you, that makes two sources. If you can share one more, I'll be happy to withdraw my nomination. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've added another source. PamD 11:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  FWIW, bladi.net has an inbuilt forum, which I'm not sure any news media has. It doesn't look very reliable and the article does not have significant coverage, so I'm not withdrawing. I'll just leave it to the closing admin to make a decision. Cheers Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Binocular rivalry described by quantum formalism[edit]

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This is an obscure way to model Binocular rivalry that is based around a single paper by physicist Efstratios Manousakis. Practically no research has been done on this subtopic apart from Manousakis's papers and a few followup papers, including one [21] by Henry Stapp that does not seem to be published in a journal. (Some papers, e.g. [22] deal with quantum formalism in other aspects of cognition, but not binocular rivalry.) It is not Wikipedia's job to describe all the experimental details of this paper, and I explained the topic in just a few sentences in the Binocular rivalry article. Since it can be easily condensed, there is no need for the subtopic to have its own article, so it should be redirected to Binocular rivalry. Related topics include Quantum mind and Quantum cognition. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 03:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Béatrice d'Hirson[edit]

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fails general notability guideline. entire section in the article about her apperance in fiction. french article has no citations. ltbdl (talk) 03:43, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: appearance in fiction and film contributes to her notability and is a reason for Wikipedia to have the article, to satisfy the curiosity of the viewer/reader who wants to know "Who was she?" "Was she fact or fiction?". PamD 08:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shazza McKenzie[edit]

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Declined speedy under G4 again, requiring a third AfD nomination. The second AfD fell foul of this and FWIW it was deleted anyway. And nothing has changed. This fails WP:GNG. The coverage remains trivial and doesn't establish notability. It relies too heavily on Cage Match results which - while reliable - do not establish notability. More sources are needed as before and it appears they don't exist even after I tagged this article in early 2022. As this is the third (possible) deletion I would recommend salting if it does go the same way although sending it into draft mode I would agree to. Addicted4517 (talk) 03:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy Keep - I have now added several reliable secondary sources to the article, some that are generally reliable (Sydney Morning Herald) and some that are considered industry-specific reliable by Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources (such as Wrestling Observer Newsletter), that help confirm the notability of the subject. CeltBrowne (talk) 08:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Benson Y. Parkinson[edit]

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Doesn't meet GNG due to his accomplishment or starting a forum associated with a church Big Money Threepwood (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KINV-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Delete or merge with sister KJJC-TV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Lacking any secondary sources to demonstrate notability per WP:GNG and I can't locate any significant coverage. AusLondonder (talk) 03:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Meitus[edit]

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this previously unreferenced article about a lawyer in the music industry, and added references. I have failed to find much significant coverage from reliable sources, however. The article in the Indianapolis Business Journal is significant coverage, but the others are passing references. I considered whether inclusion on the Billboard list would demonstrate his notability, but that is a long list (I make it 300+ names) so I am not convinced that is enough. Redirection to Carrie Newcomer might also be an option. Tacyarg (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Orlivka[edit]

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Not notable. Fighting here is irrelevant, this is a continuation of the Battle of Avdiivka (2023–2024). After Avdiivka fell on 17 February Russian forces continued advancing until they were stopped on three villages as fighting became stalled again. These are Orlivka, Stepove and Tonenke. There is no need for this page, it can be covered either in the Battle of Avdiivka article or in the broader Eastern Ukraine campaign.

Uncountable content forks have been created as a result of this war and they've been continously deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Tokmak, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Chuhuiv, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Dvorichna, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Krasnohorivka, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Russian offensive and many many more. Super Ψ Dro 00:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge to Eastern Ukraine campaign#Avdiivka breakthrough (January 2024–present). This battle is much better presented as an aftereffect of the Battle of Avdiivka, and is not notable on its own (and none of the listed sources actually refer to this as a battle). Gödel2200 (talk) 13:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Support merge to Eastern Ukraine campaign#Avdiivka breakthrough (January 2024–present) per discussion above and continued lack of reliable sources referring to a "Battle of Orlivka" as of 8 April. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 06:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• merge to aforementioned article. There's no reason to list the end state of a previous battle as a new battle. Unless a new breakthrough occurs (which will then likely earn a new, different name) there is no reason to have this article. --Licks-rocks (talk) 12:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 2017 Lahore suicide bombing[edit]

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All the coverage is from April 2017. No lasting coverage or impact to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 00:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Per the last 20 discussions we have had, merge applicable content to Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2017, where it is already listed, without detail or sourcing. Deleting it would leave that unverified. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New England Classic (Nationwide Tour event)[edit]

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My nomination for this page to speedy deleted was decline, but I will recapitulate my points, since they are valid -- there are no sources here, and a WP:BEFORE search turned up almost nothing related to this tour. Failure of WP:NSPORTS and WP:Verifiability (and potentially WP:NOR, given the absence of any sources). JeffSpaceman (talk) 00:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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All information on the page can be found here (which I have added to the article as a source).

Not a justification for keeping or deleting this particular article, but all other tournaments in the tour from 1990 to 1993 seem to have their own articles with similar levels of notability. If this is deleted, then it seems like the others should be too. XabqEfdg (talk) 02:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Le-prince-type-16-cine-camera-projector-1886.png[edit]

File:Le-prince-type-16-cine-camera-projector-1886.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cliché Online (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Doesn't have fair use template filled out properly, and doesn’t look to be a valid fair use either, and as far as I can tell, not a free image either (was deleted off Commons, which indicates it can't be freely licenced). Also violates WP:NFTABLE by using this non free image in a table, and as a result, also fails WP:NFCC#8, as it doesn't significantly enhance this article about the person. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The website used as the source is a deadlink [23], but archive of it [24] suggests that the website is copyrighted and doesn't provide a date and author for the image. So we cannot presume that copyright has expired on this, and thus it's a non-free image that doesn't meet our non-free image policy. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Le-prince-cameraprojector-type1-mark2-1888.png[edit]

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Doesn't have fair use template filled out properly, as doesn't show it meets all WP:NFCC, and also incorrectly claims to be being used in an article about the device, which it isn't. Doesn’t look to be a valid fair use either, and as far as I can tell, not a free image either (was deleted off Commons, which indicates it can't be freely licenced). Also violates WP:NFTABLE by using this non free image in a table, and as a result, also fails WP:NFCC#8, as it doesn't significantly enhance this article about the person. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And also the website it's taken from says "Credit © National Science & Media Museum / Science & Society Picture Library -- All rights reserved." So we can't get a free licence for this, as we don't know who/when the image was originally taken, and it appears to be in copyright still. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:USA for Africa songs[edit]

• Propose deleting Category:USA for Africa songs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:USA for Africa albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Categories containing only 1 article. Unlikely to be expanded since the group has been inactive for 40 years. Mika1h (talk) 12:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Taxa named by Baron Cajetan von Felder[edit]

• Propose merging Category:Taxa named by Baron Cajetan von Felder to Category:Taxa named by Cajetan von Felder

Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories – "baron" is a mere title. Micromesistius (talk) 11:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish nobility[edit]

• Propose deleting Category:Jewish nobility (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: arbirtrary and irrelevant intersection by ethnicity. I found this category added to Yehudi Menuhin on my watchlist and I'm about to revert it because, while it's true that he was Jewish and that he was a Life peer, the intersection of these facts (especially the latter one) in a category seems more than a little bizarre and "non-defining", because he was by far best known as a violinist. There are probably many other examples just like this one. Graham87 (talk) 09:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Volodimerovichi family[edit]

• Propose merging Category:Volodimerovichi family to Category:Rurikids

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to Category:Rurikids. "Volodimerovichi" is rarely used in comparison to "Rurikids", also does not follow the title of the main article. Mellk (talk) 07:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dos Santos family (Angolan business family)[edit]

• Propose renaming Category:Dos Santos family (Angolan business family) to Category:Dos Santos family

Nominator's rationale: No need for disambiguation. User:Namiba 00:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not sure. Many people are called (dos) Santos (surname) and there is no Dos Santos family main article. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gender incongruence[edit]

• Propose merging Category:Gender incongruence to Category:Transgender and medicine

Nominator's rationale: Merge to Transgender and medicine. This category is a based on the ICD-11 equivalent of Gender dysphoria, and is a odd carve out of the parent category. If not merged, I think it should be renamed to Gender dysphoria because the bulk of the actual contents are about dysphoria, not incongruence. Mason (talk) 00:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disperse, the category contains an odd mix of transgender-related and non-transgender-related articles and redirects. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Upmerge for now per nom. It is indeed an odd mixture. As nom says, gender incongruence is a redirect to a section in ICD-11, where it is called a synonym of gender dysphoria, but the article causes of gender incongruence claims it is the cause of gender dysphoria. At any rate, it's irregular to have a "causes of X" article if there is no main article of the same name. It also supports upmerging to a category where at least the article gender dysphoria itself can be found. NLeeuw (talk) 06:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Immigration control in Russia[edit]

• Immigration control in Russia → Federal Migration Service  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I'm not sure this is the best target for this redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Illegal immigration to Russia. Doing a history dive, this was the original target, before being retargeted to Federal Migration Service 20 days later by its own creator. As it stands, this seems like the most relevant, widest-shot page on this topic (Because one agency has not been in control of this issue for Russia's entire existence as a country, retargeting to any one of said agencies would be a disservice.)

...Alternately, we COULD Dabify between Immigration to Russia, Illegal immigration to Russia, Federal Migration Service, and Main Directorate for Migration Affairs. There IS a third agency listed as a predecessor to the Federal Migration Service in its article, but that agency doesn't have a page. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The immigration control is not illegal immigration, but the fight against it (among other things), my first choice is therefore keep. If this is a no-go for some reason, then dabify it per Lunamann. --Викидим (talk) 21:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That doesn't explain why Main Directorate for Migration Affairs, the agency that replaced Federal Migration Service, isn't just as valid a target as Federal Migration Service... 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Retargeting to Main Directorate for Migration Affairs is better indeed. Викидим (talk) 08:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sam Boughton[edit]

• Sam Boughton → Electoral district of Terrigal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Useless redirect. We never have articles for failed candidates unless they are notable, not even as redirects to the seat they failed to win. If we do have articles for failed candidates who haven't been elected to any office prior to failing to be elected then again they have to be notable (e.g Katherine Deves is notable because of her outspoken controversial views and her political activism, plus her preselection itself was controversial). Sam Boughton isn't notable and he was Labor's unsuccessful candidate for Terrigal (a seat the Liberals retained). I'm not sure why this article was even created in the first place but I think it should be deleted per notability guidelines and for consistency with every other article. 37.0.81.236 (talk) 23:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Per WP:RFDHOWTO you're supposed to marktag the redirect you nominated. I did it for you. Also something seems messed up here considering the "add new entries" comment is below the nomination but I'll let someone who knows what they're doing fix that. Nickps (talk) 00:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC);edited 00:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've fixed that. Thryduulf (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. Now, I don't like rewarding work with more work but something else I noticed is that since I tagged the redirect on March 30 UTC, the link in the RfD notice sends people to that day's log. Is that fixable? Nickps (talk) 02:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, and done. For future reference you can use the days=n parameter of the rfd template to do this automatically, n is number of days before the current day the redirect was nominated, e.g. for to tag a redirect nominated yesterday (or to add a redirect to a discussion on yesterday's page) use {{subst:rfd|days=1|content=.... Thryduulf (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete per nom, but I wouldn't be opposed to restoring the article which can be sent to AfD if desired, but it has just a single source in a BLP [25]. A7V2 (talk) 00:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-)[edit]

• -) → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• -( → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• -/ → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Emoticon  (talk · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A handful of emoticons structured like this are targets to either Emoticon or List of emoticons. In this case, these are all have the nose and mouth, although the eyes don't appear for technical reasons (but do at the page). I'm not seeking deletion, but rather that the difference in targets may be unexpected. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 14:51, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Seems harmless enough, and they do successfully get you where you need to go, even if they look a little ugly while doing it. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 14:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Utopes So... you're seeing utility in navigating readers to these two topics, but would prefer for the internal search engine to do that instead of short-circuiting to one of the two? Why? --Joy (talk) 14:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both smiling emoticons, frowning emoticons, and slash emoticons are discussed at both the general emoticon page, and at the list of emoticons page. Among this particular set where the emoticons are structured nearly identically, the difference in targets does not seem expectable. Nothing about ":-/" would make someone think they were going to a list instead of the general page about emoticons. While still ongoing, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 11#XD (Emoticon) has signaled that the overarching list might be a preferable target for individual emoticon redirects. (I'll emphasize in the nomination that I'm not seeking deletion here.) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I admittedly missed the fact that they were going to different places. I'd point them to the list, as per Utopes. (This would be a Retarget for everything but :-/ ) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Utopes it would be best to actually say where you want to retarget, because this made me think you want to delete them. --Joy (talk) 17:23, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Joy: I didn't, and still don't have a preference on where to retarget these. I indicated in the nomination that -/ and -\ had different targets despite being the same type of emoticon, and was describing this being an issue coupled via subsequent nominations I was planning/setting up when writing this. Your response came before I completed the set. (Meant to say this earlier). Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it makes sense to keep them consistent. Why not just WP:be bold and pick one of the two options? :) --Joy (talk) 10:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment These redirect eixst due to technical limitations - specifically page names cannot begin with a colon, leading colons are ignored in search strings (so e.g. "-" and ":-)" lead to exactly the same place) and have a technical meaning in links (e.g. for interwikis) so e.g. -) and -) ([[-)]] and [[:-)]]) lead to the same page. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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;-;[edit]

• ;-; → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• ; ; → Emoticon#Asian style  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• ;n; → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another set of emoticons with unexpectedly different targets. Using semicolons as eyes, but switching the mouth style, does not seem logical to have a difference in topics here, between the list and the general page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refine all to List of emoticons#Eastern. Might as well have the best of both worlds. Alternately, one could make an anchor on the appropriate part of the list and target there, although it's close enough to the top of the Eastern section that it's not hard to find from my suggestion. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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')[edit]

• ') → List of emoticons  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• '( → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another set of two emoticons, and in this case I'm really not seeing why :') would go one way and :'( would go the other. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 15:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Target both to the list, they both show up pretty early there. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Burnie board[edit]

• Burnie board → Masonite  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• BurnieBoard → Masonite  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of the word "burnie" at the target article. To that effect, there is only one mention of "burnie board" on Wikipedia, which is in the List of buildings designed by architect John Dalton, as the Burnie Board Residence and Administration Building. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:05, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment the history of the camelcase redirect contains an external link [26] which explains the connection "A 1960s advert for Burnie Board – it appeared in an Australian magazine in 1963. [...] 'Burnie Board' is a type of hardboard or Masonite. The Burnie Paper Mill (1937–2010), Burnie, Tasmania, produced paper, high-grade sawn timber and sheet material like 'Burnie Board'" and multiple other web hits also back up that it was also a type of or similar to masonite, but everything seems to indicate it was a product only or primarily of the 1950s-60s so I would expect most reliable sources to be offline. Thryduulf (talk) 12:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per Thryduulf's findings. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 18:46, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Thryduulf. Is "burnished" close enough to "Burnie" that we don't have to add an explicit mention of "Burnie" to the target article? feminist🩸 (talk) 06:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both per nom, unless a mention is added to the target. I would support keeping the camelcase redirect if it were an {{R with old history}}, but considering that it was created just a few months ago, then there isn't any valuable history to preserve. CycloneYoris ^talk! 23:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• The advert shown in the external link clearly stylises the product name in camelcase, making it a plausible and useful search term. Therefore either both should be kept or both should be deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 12:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Los Bajos, Chile[edit]

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Los Bajos, Chile[edit]

• Los Bajos, Chile → Frutillar  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I am unable to determine why this redirects here: there is no mention in the article. Spanish wiki has an article but English wiki articles Los Lagos, Chile and Los Lagos Region don't mention it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Loule Cross Country[edit]

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Loule Cross Country[edit]

• Loule Cross Country → Almond Blossom Cross Country  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I can't work out why this redirect points to this article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, Loule Cross Country was the official name of the meeting in 2005 and 2006, see IAAF Cross Country Permit Meetings. The race was held in Loulé for eight years in the past, for an off-wiki source see [27]. --Habst (talk) 12:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Firestone (Pern)[edit]

• Firestone (Pern) → Dragonriders of Pern#Firestone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article, a fictional... rock apparently, from a series of books. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 06:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unless better solution found. This, admittedly, is an {{R with history}}-- it was a 2007 era article stub, that was merged into Pern... which itself was BLAR'd at AfD for non-notability. I'd go into the old version of the Pern article to see if anything might be salvagable for re-merging into Dragonriders of Pern, to potentially have a sourced mention of Firestone at the Dragonriders article... but User:Sgeureka, when BLAR'ing the Pern article, also deleted its history?? I didn't even know that that was possible, most BLARs I've seen retain the history...

Given the alternative-- the 2007era stub that was merged into Pern-- was an unsourced stub and thus has little if anything of value, I can't truly recommend keeping. Not that we should have this anyways, per WP:CRUFT... 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 16:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment as AfD closer of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pern ("delete and redirect"). Most people wanted to see it deleted; there were calls to turn it into a disambiguation page. I (probably) based my decision to delete before redirect on not wanting to muddle the history of a future dab page. A redirect seemed sensible in the meantime. The former article was almost exclusively unsourced in-universe PLOT. – sgeureka ^t•c 11:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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7.92[edit]

• 7.92 → 8 mm caliber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

searching it up on google doesn't result in 8 mm but it does show another bullet type Okmrman (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dabify, there are quite a fair number of ammunition types and/or firearms that we have articles on, that could be targeted to. Of note are the following:
7.92x57mm Mauser
7.92×33mm Kurz
7.92×94mm Patronen
7.92×107mm DS
7.92×36mm EPK
7.92 mm Rifle Anti-Tank Mascerzek
7.92mm Bergmann MG15Na 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh yeah i also found out related redirect 7.92 mm. Might as well put this out there as well for you to decide on it. Okmrman (talk) 04:14, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Rather than create a disambiguation page of what are probably WP:Partial title matches, improve the current target article – the appropriate section of which is already tagged {{Missing information}} – and/or the linked List of rifle cartridges. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eddie Yongming WU[edit]

• Eddie Yongming WU → Wu Kuang-yu  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

First page or so of Google search results entirely about the cofounder and new CEO of Alibaba Group Eddie Yongming Wu, who we don't have a page on. He's mentioned very briefly in the main page, where he is linked as Eddie Wu, which also redirects to this martial artist. Likely should have a page, but in the meantime this redirect is highly confusing and should be deleted (and probably Eddie Wu as well. Rusalkii (talk) 04:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete; as nom stated, search results are dedicated entirely on the businessman and not the target of the redirect. Also not mentioned in article. Toadette ^{(April Fools Day!)} 04:24, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please note the all caps "UW", which makes the redirect implausible and unlikely search term. Toadette ^{(April Fools Day!)} 04:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The "surname in all caps" convention is sometimes used in international contexts, as a way to clarify when name order may not be clear. (English typically puts the surname last, whereas Chinese typically puts the surname first.) —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or retarget to Alibaba Group, where this person is mentioned. The current target is clearly erroneous, and a look at the page histories shows how this happened. We briefly had an article about Eddie Yongming Wu, CEO of Alibaba, at the title "Eddie Wu", and this redirect was created with that as its target. The article creation was reverted, making "Eddie Wu" a redirect to Wu Kuang-yu, and a bot "fixed" the double redirect, which now points to a target that's clearly wrong. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget as per Mx. Granger. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget We clearly need a page for Eddie Wu as CEO of Alibaba group. I did try to create one a while ago but I copied too much. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eddie_Wu&oldid=1189206113 Maybe retarget to Alibaba group until this needed page is created. Better would be if someone wants to rewrite this attempt. C-randles (talk) 13:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I've made the most superficial start to the Eddie Wu article (as it really is necessary to have). Others are encouraged to improve it. J947 ‡ ^edits 05:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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John B. Clark[edit]

• John B. Clark → John Bates Clark  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I'm not convinced the current target is the true primary topic over John Bullock Clark; John Bullock Clark Jr. is also a factor as well. The best outcome here would be to dabify. I would do this myself but the current redirect is from 2004 and has always had the current target so I would like more eyes on this before making the change. It's been a couple years since I was frequently active at RFD, so apologies if dabification requests are no longer considered within the norm here. Hog Farm _Talk 00:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dabify as per nom. Don't worry, from my (admittedly brief) time here, I've seen plenty of dabify nominations and dabify votes, you're good! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 00:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to John Clark. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to John Clark seems clearest to me. Similar to John D. Clark and John W. Clark. jni^{(talk)(delete)} 14:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Don't retarget to John Clark: either keep as is or disambiguate. Not convinced that retargeting to what is in this case a sprawling dab page will do anything but annoy the reader. As the two main objects of this search are both fairly prominent and do seem to actually be referred to with the middle initial, I think a dab page is probably justified here in lieu of the current hatnote. Note John Brown Clark and John Blades Clarke. J947 ‡ ^edits 04:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Retarget to John Clark and tag {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} Okmrman (talk) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  nvm I'm just gonna stay neutral on this one until a more clear consensus is formed Okmrman (talk) 20:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Catherine, Princess of Wales cancer diagnosis[edit]

• Catherine, Princess of Wales cancer diagnosis → Catherine, Princess of Wales#Health  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The creator of this redirect created this among over 20 others pointing to the now deleted page, "Where is Kate?" All but a couple of these have now been deleted under WP:G8 because the target was deleted. But in this case, I felt that this redirect (and one other) were reasonable search terms that should redirect to Catherine, Princess of Wales#Health, and made that change. However, this one is problematic, because the creator of the redirect twice copied in the page history from the deleted article and immediately reverted it on this page. This page history therefore contains a WP:COPYWITHIN (one of which had to be repaired) from a deleted page, and the terms of the attribution license may not be met, as the attribution has now been deleted for everyone except for admins. I would not object to this being deleted and immediately recreated, but I do think the redirect should be deleted. I note that while I felt the redirect was reasonable, it is certainly not necessary. Anyone trying to type this text into search will find the target article before they finish typing, and if they search the full name without a redirect, the target page will be the first hit. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as a redirect. It's harmless and unambiguous. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comazant[edit]

• Comazant → St. Elmo's fire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is supposedly another name for this fire. I could not find any evidence of this externally. Onwiki did not particularly help, as not only is this title not mentioned at the article, it is also not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia! I did a search and almost all my results were for "Comozant"; gave this a look on Wikipedia and got nothing. From there I refined my search to just "Comazant", and the only thing I got for all of the first page of my search engine was Comazant being the publisher of a book titled "Captured" by India Blake. Nothing about the fire. And at the end of the day, with zero mentions on Wikipedia including at the target, this title would not be helpful to readers who are left confused about the relationship between St. Elmo's fire and Comazant, as no connection is established between them. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 04:48, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Appears to be a misspelling of comozant, which is apparently a D&D monster made of St. Elmo's fire. Implausible search term, and violates WP:LEAST regardless (if I was searching for comozant, I'd probably be wondering if the D&D monster was lifted from real mythology and want info on that... lacking real mythology, I'd probably expect a list of D&D monsters). Fieari (talk) 07:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Latin term used by Galen in De Comate[28], and subsequently in English[29][30][31] ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 09:57, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Wouldn't this be another reason to delete then, per deletion reason #8? "In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created." This is a Latin word or phrased used in a non-English language historical document. I found no English language sources using the word. Fieari (talk) 01:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Fieari, the three latter sources are all explicitly English language sources using the word either directly or with reference to English language speakers ?! ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^{~(Talk)~ ~}Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 03:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Specifically:

  • "When seen on shipboard at the extremity of a mast, it is called by the French and Spaniards St Elmo's fire, and by the English sailors a comazant
  • 1749. Waddell, in Phil. Trans., XLVI. 111. A very hard Storm of Wind, attended with Thunder and Lightning … and sundry very large Comazants (as we call them) overhead...
  • 1751. Franklin, Lett., Wks. 1840, V. 224. In Captain Waddell’s account of the effects of lightning on his ship, I could not but take notice of the large comazants (as he calls them), that settled on the spintles at the top-mast heads, and burned like very large torches (before the stroke).
  • 1753. Phil. Trans., XLVIII. 213. We have heard all our lives of St. Helmo’s fire … and of the comazants of our mariners.
  • Helen’s Fire (feu d’Hélène), a comazant called “St. Helme’s” or “St. Elmo’s fire” by the Spaniards; the “fires of St. Peter and St. Nicholas” by the Italians; and “Castor and Pollux” by the ancient Romans.

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Central Food Hall[edit]

• Central Food Hall → Central Group  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of a "Hall" at the target article in capacity, much less a "Food Hall", even much less a "Central Food Hall" no less. Currently not a helpful redirect to a target that is already twinkle-tagged to the brim, even after securing an illustrious central title. Has a couple other unmentioned redirects too from a presumably removed section. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 03:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Tops Supermarket as an avoided double redirect to Central Food Retail, which operates the brand, and remove the circular link that would result. Don't know what the "securing an illustrious central title" bit is supposed to mean; Central Group is simply the name of the subject. As for the article issues, those concerned may just want to revert the article to the last good version before the extensive COI edits on 24 January 2022. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was making an offhand comment about this topic being "central", I'm sure there's a lot of groups/food halls that are central but this just happens to be the central and it's actual name, yea. None of that actually matters to the RfD so I've now strucketh, was interested in the central organization topic/idea. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bitness[edit]

• Bitness → Word (computer architecture)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The suffix of "ness" does not appear at the target article, and by extension neither does "Bitness". Without a definition this term does not currently feel like a great fit as a redirect. "Bitness" has mentions across wikipedia in various scenarios, and also a Wikt:bitness entry, but perhaps staying on WP-side is more preferable for this term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 03:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My guess had ben the bit numbering used in the documentation (1-wordlength, worlength-1, 0-(wordlength-1), (wordlength-1)-0), but that's not how Wikt:bitness defines it. I would say tha either bitness should redirect to an article or section that defines bitness, or the redirect should be removed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no ness in the whole article. Seems to me that bitness is short for Bit endianness which is a redirect to Bit numbering#Order. Since redirects aren't supposed to redirect to a redirect (though I am not sure why) seems that it should redirect to Bit_numbering#Order. I will let someone else actually do it, though. Gah4 (talk) 22:57, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment my first impression is this should be about endianess; however a websearch indicates this term is defined as the basic CPU architecture word size; or the word-size used by compiled software (ie. 16-bit program) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Soft redirect to Wiktionary. The topic will never amount to more than a WP:DICDEF, and we have no article we could link to that provides one. It is a legitimate term in computer science jargon, so deletion would be inappropriate, given the existing Wiktionary entry. It has an entry in Barron's Dictionary of Computer and Internet Terms, 10th edition, 2009, ISBN 978-0-7641-4105-8: the property of using a specific number of bits. For example, a single-precision integer and a double-precision integer differ in bitness. Bloomsbury's Dictionary of Computing appears to also have an entry, but I couldn't verify directly.

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Antiscarp[edit]

• Antiscarp → Scarp  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Scarplet → Scarp  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A term not mentioned at the target disambiguation page. In an effort to possibly boldly retarget, I confirmed that "antiscarp" was not mentioned at any of the pages listed at the dab. It was not. I searched onwiki for any mentions of "antiscarp", and the only related definition I could find was two pages that said "antiscarp, or an uphill-scarplet". Great! So I just have to target antiscarp to wherever scarplet points! I search that, and "scarplet" is an unmentioned redirect to the same disambiguation page. No use of "scarplet" at any of the linked pages either. Basically, this is a circular cross-definition of scarplet and antiscarp, only used to refer to each other, point at the same disambiguation, and are unmentioned everywhere else on Wikipedia. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Crosswiki to wiktionary - [32] is more useful than anything we currently have on wikipedia, I think. Google also says that antiscarp is the name of a record label, presumably a small non-notable one. If it becomes notable, the wiktionary link could become a hatnote. Fieari (talk) 07:35, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Deplorable[edit]

• Deplorable → Basket of deplorables  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another confusing vocabulary word redirect. Not everything that is deplorable is part of Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables". We don't have deplore, so maybe a soft redirect to Wiktionary will have to do. Duckmather (talk) 06:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disorganized[edit]

• Disorganized → Chaos theory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I was surprised by this redirect because a thing does not have to be a chaotic system (in the sense of chaos theory) to be "disorganized". Maybe retarget to wiktionary? (I was hoping we had an article on the general concept of chaos, but I don't think we do.) Duckmather (talk) 06:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Family Ties (Fat Joe album[edit]

• Family Ties (Fat Joe album → Family Ties (Fat Joe and Dre album)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Was created as a duplicate article in one edit, converted into a redirect in the next (by the person who was creating the set of pages for this album). There does not seem to be any history worth salvaging from this implausible redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On a related, unrelated note: It looks like Family Ties (Fat Joe and Dre album) was converted into an article in 2019 (from a redirect), and was the source of a BLAR with Family Ties (Fat Joe album), which was created in 2018 and contains earlier history. At least, that's for the page titles NOW, which shifted during a 2020 round robin swap. In either situation, it looks like the correctly-titled version was already an article that existed, seemingly, as the history from Family Ties (Fat Joe album) (currently a redirect) predates the error(?) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dune (1984 film and etc.[edit]

• Dune (1984 film → Dune (1984 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Dune (novel → Dune (novel)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Mafia (party game → Mafia (party game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Technical (vehicle → Technical (vehicle)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Spring (season → Spring (season)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Go (game → Go (game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Breakout (video game → Breakout (video game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Kappa (folklore → Kappa (folklore)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• The Thing (listening device → The Thing (listening device)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Interstellar (film → Interstellar (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Spectre (security vulnerability → Spectre (security vulnerability)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• London Bridge (Lake Havasu City → London Bridge (Lake Havasu City)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal → Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Kindling (sedative-hypnotic withdrawal → Kindling (sedative–hypnotic withdrawal)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Raymond Robinson (Green Man → Raymond Robinson (Green Man)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Michael Davis (juggler → Michael Davis (juggler)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Alignment (Dungeons & Dragons → Alignment (Dungeons & Dragons)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Jonathan (tortoise → Jonathan (tortoise)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Dune (franchise → Dune (franchise)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hijra (South Asia → Hijra (South Asia)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Chartreuse (color → Chartreuse (color)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• 1984 (advertisement → 1984 (advertisement)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Inversion (meteorology → Inversion (meteorology)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Into the Storm (2014 film → Into the Storm (2014 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Bat Boy (character → Bat Boy (character)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• 555 (telephone number → 555 (telephone number)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Port Arthur massacre (Australia → Port Arthur massacre (Australia)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Children's Village (New York → Children's Village (New York)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Scream (1996 film → Scream (1996 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Scala (programming language → Scala (programming language)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Titus (film → Titus (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• HIM (Finnish band → HIM (Finnish band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Path analysis (statistics → Path analysis (statistics)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Another set of lowest viewed redirects that are missing a closing parenthesis. None of these titles have an affinity for missing parentheses, making this batch unpredictable and implausible to seek and spell. None of these titles have substansive history, and have never contained content. They have only existed as redirects. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all per nom. If I remember correctly I created Michael Davis (juggler a while ago because it was a red link on another page. If I knew what I was doing I would've just corrected the link, lol. I can G7 it if you wish. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 01:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all, useless and wrong. BD2412 T 01:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - Per nom. Fieari (talk) 01:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all - I made the Children’s Village one on accident while trying to do something similar to a technical move. I’m assuming others were made with similar intentions. Roasted (talk) 01:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all. A reader who forgets the ')' should get a 404 and mutter "ah, right." Alternatively, I suppose an unbalanced '(' could be automatically closed; are there any article titles that legitimately contain unbalanced delimiters? —Tamfang (talk) 01:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Other than things like ( and (: ? DMacks (talk) 03:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all. Why are we even being asked? These are typos that need fixing. Maproom (talk) 07:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - @Utopes: (and others) - As OA of some of the WP:Redirects noted above, it's *entirely* ok wth me to do whatever is decided in the final WP:CONSENSUS discussion - these WP:RDRs were made as a way of linking to Wikipedia (and thereby extending the range and benefit of Wikipedia to others) from External Websites (like FaceBook), which drops the ending ")", this problem has been fully described and discussed on the WP:Village pump (technical) at VP-Archive204 (a Must-Read); VP-Archive180; VP-Archive162 - in any case - hope this helps in some way - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 10:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment See precedent here at which good arguments were made both for and against similar redirects but the outcome was Delete. Certes (talk) 12:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment In the case for the missing closing parenthesis, isn't the issue with transcription within MediaWiki? If it's the opposite with external websites having the issues, they are redirects not serving the site's best interest. – The Grid (talk) 13:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Independent MPs[edit]

• Template:Independent MPs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Independent MPs in Canada used to be at this pagename until I moved it to clarify its scope and avoid potential confusion with other navboxes, e.g. Template:Independent MPs in the United Kingdom. Now that the Canadian navbox is transcluded directly through its new name, I suggest that the old name be deleted to avoid any future mix-ups, e.g. being added to a British MP's biography by mistake. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, only the redirect needs deletion. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:MostRecentValue[edit]

• Module:MostRecentValue  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused module. Move to user's sandbox (Module:Sandbox/<user>/...) if they want to keep it. Gonnym (talk) 12:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Climate[edit]

• Module:Climate  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused module other than in one talk page. Move to user's sandbox (Module:Sandbox/<user>/...) if they want to keep it. Gonnym (talk) 12:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Leading zeros[edit]

• Module:Leading zeros  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Duplicate function is located in Module:String2. Replace usages with {{#invoke:String2|stripZeros}}. Template:Hong Kong Stock Exchange might be the only place this is used. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Vital articles by topic by class/core[edit]

• Template:Vital articles by topic by class/core (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Vital articles by topic by class/core2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused since this edit was converted the template to Lua. Gonnym (talk) 12:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]